Serious questions remain over 2nd Death Star destruction!

[luns101]

I shall revisit and add my evidence once i have combined all the facts into a choherent state.

I hope your sources are not regurgitated talking points from the George Lucas regime. Let's see some legitimate references from outside the Milky Way galaxy for once!

also, guess who had this to say about Hoth
"Sir, the Hoth system is supposed to be devoid of Human lifeforms."
―Captain Firmus Piett

hah, as if he didn't know about the 'supposed' rebel Echo Base...the plot thickens...

See! Once we open our minds we can see clearly what really happened. It's good to know I'm not fighting this battle alone.

You don't believe that the rebels blew up the death star?

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Oh please! Anyone with even a Padawan-level education can see through the errors presented by the official story lines we've been spoon-fed. I woke up, and you need to as well.

[joe cool 360]

I did read them and they're all a bunch of bitter science fiction has-beens who are desperately trying to cling to whatever bit of fame they have left.

Tell me how George Lucas is covering up the truth but a middle aged political science teacher who still roots for the Cubs has somehow discovered it? Or are you hunkered down somewhere in a cave on the ice planet Hoth eating canned Tontons. :lol

Hey, don't get down on these guys, all they're doing is asking questions.
I, for one, think a new investigation is in order.



Great thread!

[Iliad]

Can you comprehend just how many people would be involved in such an "inside job"?

There are plenty of people who doubt it but has one person stepped up and claimed that they were responsible for the demolition? Imagine the logistics!

[brooksieb]

Star wars is better then Star trek, it is all we need to worry about.

[luns101]

Can you comprehend just how many people would be involved in such an "inside job"?

There are plenty of people who doubt it but has one person stepped up and claimed that they were responsible for the demolition? Imagine the logistics!

Geez Louise! I provided a source for that. It was Admiral Piet. Why aren't any of you reading my sources?

As for suppliers, from what I've read it could possibly have been the Romulans who supplied him. Keep in mind that not one Romulan died on that day!

You may wonder how Romulans were able to instantly transport such a huge amount of explosives to Piet across numerous star systems without being caught. I wondered that for awhile as well until I started listening to the Count Dooku Show on Force One Radio. I have a premium membership there so I also can watch it throuh hologram projections. It only costs 25 Republic Credits per year.

Anyway, the transportation answer is obvious now that my eyes have been opened...

[jonesthecurl]

Here's what I wanna know - how come an ace pilot like Han Solo doesn't actually know what a "parsec" is?
Could it be that this was not the real Solo, but a paid imposter?
You know, call me paranoid, but it seems to me that if you gave him a leather hat and a bullwhip, he'd look suspiciously like Indiana Jones - who was the U.S. president according to Air Force One.

[pimpdave]

OMG

[CrazyAnglican]

Yeah, I have to admit that Admiral Piet couldn't have been too loyal. I mean really, the boss choked his predecessor to death right in front of him. Doesn't exactly scream job security does it?

[luns101]

I'm a little surprised Serbia didn't come in here and vote for Matt Millen. The guy destroyed an NFL franchise...it wouldn't be too difficult for him to do the same to an intergalactic battle station.

[HapSmo19]

I'm a little surprised Serbia didn't come in here and vote for Matt Millen. The guy destroyed an NFL franchise....

You have no proof of that and dont even try to bring up this:
Over seven seasons under Millen's leadership as team CEO, the Detroit Lions owned the NFL's worst winning percentage (31–81, .277), have never had a winning season, have never finished higher than third place in the NFC North, and have not played in any post-season games. Despite this record of total and complete failure, Millen received a five-year contract extension at the start of the 2005 season.

Those are merely facts and do nothing to advance your theory of Millenesque destruction. When it comes to the Detroit Lions, we need to look back in time to get to the truth of their historically dismal performance:
They were inspired late in the season by the loss of guard Mike Utley, who sustained a career-ending paralysis injury against the Los Angeles Rams on November 17, 1991. As Utley was carted off the field in that game he flashed a "thumbs up" to his teammates and the Silverdome crowd. It became a rallying symbol for the remainder of the season.
In the playoffs, the Lions got their only postseason victory since 1957, when they defeated the Dallas Cowboys 38–6 at the Silverdome. They lost to the Redskins in the NFC Championship Game, 41–10.

You see, not even teh paralysis of a favorite teammate was motivation enough for them. And then there's this:
The Lions also made the playoffs in 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997 and 1999, making the 1990s one of the most successful decades in team history. In 1993, they went 10–6, first in the NFC Central Division, but lost to the Green Bay Packers. In 1994, they lost to the Packers in the playoffs again. In 1995, they lost to the Philadelphia Eagles, in embarrassing fashion, 58–37 (entering the fourth quarter, they were down 51–21). In 1997, Detroit lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the first round. In 1999, The Lions closed out the decade reaching the playoffs for the sixth time in a ten-year span, which is a franchise record for playoff appearances during a decade. However, they lost yet again in the first round, this time to the Washington Redskins. Detroit's 1999 playoff berth also marked the second time in Bobby Ross's first three years as head coach that he led the Lions into the postseason. The last Lions head coach to accomplish that feat was Buddy Parker, in 1952–53 during his second and third seasons at the helm.

Did you see it? Here it is again:
The Lions also made the playoffs in 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997 and 1999, making the 1990s one of the most successful decades in team history.

It's easier to find the answer to why they were ever good at all: Barry Sanders

[luns101]

You have no proof

Not yet I don't...but this isn't the first time an NFL owner has conspired to undermine Galactic politics. Take off your blinders!

[HapSmo19]

You have no proof

Not yet I don't...but this isn't the first time an NFL owner has conspired to undermine Galactic politics. Take off your blinders!

NFW!!!

I knew he wasn't just senile

[The1exile]

"Alright Wedge, go for the power regulator on the north tower"

Uh...power regulator?!! What happened to destroying it by just hitting the main reactor via a thermal exhaust port like in the Battle of Yavin...hmmmmmm

Now think about this...@ 7:14 Wedge Antilles (if you believe it's actually him) says, "I'm already on my way out" How could this be possible if laser fire hadn't even begun!!!!!

You poor misguided conspiracy theorist, the power regulator is a part of the main reactor, which they're flying around in. And Wedge (awesome name btw) simply means he's already on top of the situation and heading towards the regulator when he says he's on his way out.

I do however doubt that the speed of combustion is anywhere close to the speed of an X-wing and thus think that Wedge was in fact assassinated to stop him spreading the knowledge of the death star's interior to terrorist factions. Those Ewoks are cold, calculating bastards.

[luns101]

You poor misguided conspiracy theorist, the power regulator is a part of the main reactor, which they're flying around in. And Wedge (awesome name btw) simply means he's already on top of the situation and heading towards the regulator when he says he's on his way out.

...and this is coming from someone whose Metachlorian count is lower than the value of my Lehman Brothers stock!

*Sigh* Guess I'll have to quote another expert




"As a certified Chief Engineer I've inspected and maintained hundreds of interstellar vessels. The only object in the universe with more structural integrity than the 2nd Death Star was the obelisk from 2001: A Space Odyssey. While on liberty from The Enterprise, I decided to vacation on Endor. Since the Ewok Massage Parlor was closed when I first arrived, I changed my itinerary and went ahead to take the Galactic Empire's day-long tour of their newest battle station. Well laddie, let me tell you that their steel is the finest I've ever observed. Their power regulators were totally separate from the main reactors as they were independently charged. See me, Jimmy! I would have given 1,000 Tribbles to spend the day studying its composition.

One thing I do know is that there's no way a small phaser blast would inflict so much damage, and there's no way a fire would burn outwardly as such and then evolve into an explosion. Aye atsrite" - Montgomery Scott, Lieutenant Commander and Chief Engineer, USS Enterprise

[brandonman]

I think it was HAL, myself.

[jonesthecurl]

Now be fair folks, at least make sure your experts live in the same time and galaxy as the events under discussion.