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Night Strike wrote:Alright, I took a few minutes to look into that symbol and discussed it with a couple other mods. The symbol itself is a Buddhist symbol and was not meant to display Nazism or the negative connotations with it. I have asked her to consider changing it to something that wouldn't have those types of negativity, but that choice is up to her. In the meantime, I would suggest to everybody to take some time and look into the symbols of various world religions when you see something that could be taken offensively; you might learn something contrary to your original conclusion.
Nazi ensigns had a through and through image, so both versions were present, one on each side, but the Nazi flag on land was right-facing on both sides and at a 45° rotation.[15]
hd, because of what they did and its continued use as such, it has a stigma to it. There are other symbols for "peace" and "luck" if this wasn't intended to cause the controversy it did.
stahrgazer wrote:hd, because of what they did and its continued use as such, it has a stigma to it. There are other symbols for "peace" and "luck" if this wasn't intended to cause the controversy it did.
as i stated before and was somehow glossed over... lol, the cross can be seen with a stigma for the crusades, they killed alot more non-christians then nazi's killed jews... the romans (though i cant remember what symbol they used...) killed thousands+ of the 'one god' religions... ANY symbol can be seen as negative and racist to an extent, but it takes true presence of mind to see past that, and thats what everyone should stride for... by placeing a stigma on the symbols as you are right now, we give them power, and only by letting it go can we truely be free
I honestly don't give a rat's tush about the symbol's ancient meaning. What bothers me about its use is, from what jayde's said before, she thrives on creating controversy, and was seeking a way to do it. Guess she found it.
As I said earlier, if this were jayde's religion, that's one thing.. but it's not (even if it was, most of them have found alternative but satisfying symbols to use TODAY without stigma attached).
stahrgazer wrote:As I said earlier, if this were jayde's religion, that's one thing.. but it's not (even if it was, most of them have found alternative but satisfying symbols to use TODAY without stigma attached).
It dosnt matter if its her religion or not, its freedom to do with her avi as she pleases, weather it is her religion or not is irrelivent. What your saying is if a Bhudist came to CC with that in there sig and a Neo Nazi came in with that sig you would force one player to replace it and not allow another? that is prejudice against someone's belifes weather you agree with them or not...
I didn't say force her to replace it. I said, note that it's intended to cause the controversy it did, and if it really meant "peace" and "luck" there are other symbols that wouldn't mean what that could mean REGARDLESS of which way the limbs face.
stahrgazer wrote:I honestly don't give a rat's tush about the symbol's ancient meaning. What bothers me about its use is, from what jayde's said before, she thrives on creating controversy, and was seeking a way to do it. Guess she found it.
As I said earlier, if this were jayde's religion, that's one thing.. but it's not (even if it was, most of them have found alternative but satisfying symbols to use TODAY without stigma attached).
Stahr please stop making up things about me. I said nothing about creating controversy here at any point. How do you even know my religion? This appears to be already dismissed, perhaps you should just let it go?
I would like to point out something to you stahrgazer... If what you feel about jayde is correct, all you're doing is feeding her want for controversy and chaos more and more.
In heaven... Everything is fine, in heaven... Everything is fine, in heaven... Everything is fine... You got your things, and I've got mine.
Guys, cool it. NS talked with a bunch of the mods and we came to a conclusion together. If you would like to read what we decided, go back to NS's statement. If you continue to bicker back and forth I will direct you to Flame Wars or send you a PM warning.