Europa [Quenched]

[oaktown]

i think the dots on the sea paths still need to stand out more - perhaps a light glow around them? The paths around Scotland/Ireland are still quite dim.

[saaimen]

maybe add a slight white glow around every dot?

perhaps a light glow around them?

Hey!!!
You stole my idea

[jyor0385]

Crete and Cyprus do border. I expect this is down to user error...

Look, I was only trying to help. The map's in beta so that suggests that there may be bugs to work out. If I find that it wasn't user error I'll take a screen shot in my next turn. Otherwise your assumption that I'm a chump is correct.

[MrBenn]

OK, here's another minor update - I have removed the superfluous label for Italy, and added a slight glow to the ocean routes. For some reason, the Northern Ireland-Scotland route is more blurry on the Large map, so I have have made the ocean in the background a fraction lighter there to see if that helps....


[bigimg]http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj320/bpawley/EuropaB2-L.jpg[/bigimg]

[samuelc812]

Thats better

[jyor0385]

Crete and Cyprus do border. I expect this is down to user error...

Look, I was only trying to help. The map's in beta so that suggests that there may be bugs to work out. If I find that it wasn't user error I'll take a screen shot in my next turn. Otherwise your assumption that I'm a chump is correct.

You were right - I am a chump. Though I could almost swear that in my first turn I was in attack mode and the engine wouldn't allow it, in this last turn it in fact did. Loser error I guess.

[saaimen]

Crete and Cyprus do border. I expect this is down to user error...

Look, I was only trying to help. The map's in beta so that suggests that there may be bugs to work out. If I find that it wasn't user error I'll take a screen shot in my next turn. Otherwise your assumption that I'm a chump is correct.

You were right - I am a chump. Though I could almost swear that in my first turn I was in attack mode and the engine wouldn't allow it, in this last turn it in fact did. Loser error I guess.

Hats off to the honest chump!

[saaimen]

One more thing I noticed when peering over the map in a doubles game:
"med islands" is never written in full, nor is any sea named. Shouldn't the term "Mediterranean" be used somewhere, for our non-European friends?

[jyor0385]

Hats off to the honest chump!

Keepin it real, yo

[Mustapha Mond]

See Game 3521810, rounds 9, 10 & 11.

I controlled:
- Armenia
- Azerbaijan
- Georgia
- Russia
- Turkey

and didn't get my bonus.

Needless to say, that kind of kills my strategy, plus the fact that I'm owed 12 armies.

[MrBenn]

The transcontinental bonus is brown in the legend. And KGD is... brown! I don't get why people don't get that

Hopefully the updated image (above) will make that clearer...

[StarofTroy]

This is my new favorite map! Well, it's tied with World 2.1. I love it! I've always gotten my transcontinental bonus. I think people aren't seeing that satellite country. This map is a lot of fun to play on fog too, especially because of that, and the med islands. Great job.

[StarofTroy]

lol i think that's how I was winning actually. Now with that new updated map everyone else will see what I'm doing!

[Shatners Bassoon]

don't know if this has been highlighted yet,but you don't seem to be receiving your bonus armies for holding Transcontinental.


see DAZMFC's position in Game 3510697

[Shatners Bassoon]

don't know if this has been highlighted yet,but you don't seem to be receiving your bonus armies for holding Transcontinental.


see DAZMFC's position in Game 3510697

lol,just read the above post.....see that you have to hold KGD

[sublimeoneus]

So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?

[saaimen]

No... Motherland bonus is +1 for Russia and KGD. But when you have Transcontinental, both countries (and the 1 bonus) are included in the continent. So +1 for Russia and KGD, or +4 for all of the Transcontinental (brown) regions.

EDIT: I was wrong here. Ignore the above.

[MrBenn]

So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?

Actually, sublimeoneus is right here - the whole of transcontinental will give +5

[MrBenn]

PM sent to lackattack with the update images:

[bigimg]http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj320/bpawley/EuropaB2-L.jpg[/bigimg]

[e_i_pi]

I just played my first game on this map, got brilliant dice and won... thanks for including the dice hack Benn, great work

One area I misinterpreted was Sicily->Sardinia->Balearics. I thought there was a route from Sicily straight to Balearics. I know now that it isn't, but that's the only misinterpretation I found on the map, everything else was straight forward and easy to understand.

Oh, Croatia to Montenegro is a funny one, but I'm aware of the borders in that stretch of the woods, and it's easy to see on the big map anyhow.

[saaimen]

So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?

Actually, sublimeoneus is right here - the whole of transcontinental will give +5

I'm sorry about that, I got it wrong. In fact I didn't know myself, even though I've had that bonus in our doubles game. I hadn't checked the log very well, I thought I got 4 for it anyway. My bad.
BUT even though I know it's my mistake, maybe the line of text about the Transcontinental bonus could be clearer. Now it says 'includes KGD', and that's why I assumed it also included the specific Russia-KGD bonus... Also, the "motherland; +1" is standing there completely apart of other continents. Others might also think the brown continent overrules this small bonus.
Or am I way off, and should I just shut up ?

One area I misinterpreted was Sicily->Sardinia->Balearics. I thought there was a route from Sicily straight to Balearics. I know now that it isn't, but that's the only misinterpretation I found on the map, everything else was straight forward and easy to understand.

I did see that Sicily-Balearics is impossible, but somehow I thought Sardinia bordered Monaco :s... When I look again, I can't blame it on the map, but somehow it seemed logical at first.
How about letting all the seapaths arrive at completely different spots? Faroe&Norway->Iceland could be more separated (Faroe seapath to the southern tip of Iceland?), as could Sicily&Balearics->Sardinia (more sideways), Sardinia&Monaco->Corsica (Sardinia->Corsica around the East of Corsica?), and Crete&Turkey->Cyprus (Crete->Cyprus around southern tip of Cyprus?)...
These are mere suggestions to make those a bit clearer, of course. If there's not a lot of problems in beta play, maybe it's not worth the effort

[yeti_c]

Of all the sea route - I really think the only one that is misleading is the sicily -> Balearics...

All the other ones it's quite obvious that the track goes in and out - but with that one - it looks like it might flow past.

C.

[Thezzaruz]

-Text explaining the Kaliningrad (KGD) is part of the transcontinental region has been added to the bottom corner
-An additional label for Italy has been added

IMO both of these are unneccesary and look poor. Good work on the sea routes though.

[e_i_pi]

Of all the sea route - I really think the only one that is misleading is the sicily -> Balearics...

All the other ones it's quite obvious that the track goes in and out - but with that one - it looks like it might flow past.

C.

Yeah this is exactly what got me yeti. There are maps with 3-way borders, like um... Nubia, I think it is with the Well of Rameses. I guess there's others too not that I can think of them off the top of my head.

I think just shifting where one of the sea routes ends will make it clear

[MrBenn]

I've updated the Balearics-Sardinia route - a refresh will load the updated images ^^