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pimpdave wrote:So then please, create some threads about a terrorist attack you witnessed, in your country.

Plus, if you really want to know how people remember 9/11, the ones who were directly affected by it, anyway, it's to not even talk about it.

Usually we just get drunk together, maybe tell stories about one of our buddies who died that day. But for the most part, we're quiet about it. The rest of the world falls into either two extremes, the chest thumping patriots or the mocking fools. Both of which are exploiting our loss for their amusement.

So please, everyone, exploit a loss from your own region, before you start picking on the loss in NYC.


you seem to derail the direction this thread is travelling in with remarkable ease. no one is picking on NYC, put your persecution complex to sleep
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And let's see you mock your own loss first.
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I celebrate September 11th, every single year.

Well, every year since 1980.

Who brought the cake?
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pimpdave wrote:And let's see you mock your own loss first.


no one's mocking anything you daft cunt
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Timminz wrote:I celebrate September 11th, every single year.

Well, every year since 1980.

Who brought the cake?



My ex-fiance's birthday also is 9/11, and every so often I will mourn the passing of our relationship.
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pimpdave wrote:So please, everyone, exploit a loss from your own region, before you start picking on the loss in NYC.
Nobody here is laughing at, nor exploiting, 'your loss'. They are laughing at those who have previously exploited it by using it as the centrepiece of an annual faux-patriotism festival.
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Curmudgeonx wrote:
Timminz wrote:I celebrate September 11th, every single year.

Well, every year since 1980.

Who brought the cake?



My ex-fiance's birthday also is 9/11, and every so often I will mourn the passing of our relationship.



Happy Birthday Timminz!
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Dancing Mustard wrote:
pimpdave wrote:So please, everyone, exploit a loss from your own region, before you start picking on the loss in NYC.


Nobody here is laughing at, nor exploiting, 'your loss'. They are laughing at those who have previously exploited it by using it as the centrepiece of an annual faux-patriotism festival.


we have to remember that today is all about dave though. whilst hundreds of thousands of people may have lost relatives in the attacks, dave was nearby when they happened. think how harrowing it is for him to talk about the subject, let alone sit calmly by whilst people discuss it without constant referral to his own personal suffering. let us all be more understanding of him.
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pimpdave wrote:It's bad enough the victims have to be used and abused by the government in the name of expansionist aims.

But to use them for comedy, from the same people who had been criticizing the government for using the victims to justify unjustifiable military action, well, isn't that worse?

Are you nuts? Of course not. I don't want to make it the issue here when clearly the point of this thread was not to argue over the 11th but instead to comment on it, probably in a mostly sarky fashion, but do you really think that making light of what was (7 years ago) serious fucking business is worse than the many deaths and large-scale destruction that has accompanied the US response?

pimpdave wrote:And let's see you mock your own loss first.

In response to this (and the variants you keep trotting out), why? They didn't happen today. people have already made tons of jokes about terrorist attacks in other countries (and indeed in the UK, my own) - at the expense of near everyone, be they the terrorists, the victims, airlines, airport authorities or any other group involved. You just need to chill out. If you like, feel free to talk about/make light of any other terrorist attacks, preferably on their relevant days - I don't think we'll mind.
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I live a few miles from Eagle Rock reservation, from one point of which there is a spectacular view of NY.
There is now a memorial to the dead - a wall on which is inscried the name of everyone who is known to have died when the towers fell.

It is a sobering sight. I can't help but imagine seeing the tragedy as it happened when I go there.
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Three of us were working our asses off all day to finish off the project. At 5 pm, GMT the boss calls from US and tells us all about it. F**** the project, we were trying to read news sites that were sooo slow. After the work I went to the shop, bought 2 bottles of Chateu Tassin, 1998 vintage, got chinese takeaway, and spent the rest of the night in front of TV sinking in what had happened.

Worth mentioning, I got worried for 3 friends who worked near the twin towers. All 3 were safely evacuated about which I learned 4 days later or so.

As I dont know anyone personally who died, I have no wish to remember this day in any way, the same as Beslan siege or nuclear bombing of Hiroshima, or any other day distinguished in History by a mindless slaughter of large quantity of people.
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kletka wrote:As I dont know anyone personally who died, I have no wish to remember this day in any way,


I wish I could forget.

I wish I could have done more. I wish I could have saved someone. Especially one of my friends who had kids.

But they're all gone, and I'm still here. With only a chip on my shoulder to show for it, and the ability to say, yes, I know what it looks like to see someone get hit in the head with a piece of debris that fell from however many stories up (it's not pleasant), among a whole other string of horrors most of you never, ever want to witness in real life.

It breaks my heart further, to think of the Iraqi children and parents who have similar images on the mind, on the anniversaries of their people being slaughtered by forces outside of their control.

And there are an awful lot of people who share that perspective with me. I don't expect anyone to understand, who hasn't borne witness to such events.
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pimpdave wrote:
kletka wrote:As I dont know anyone personally who died, I have no wish to remember this day in any way,


I wish I could forget.

I wish I could have done more. I wish I could have saved someone. Especially one of my friends who had kids.

But they're all gone, and I'm still here. With only a chip on my shoulder to show for it, and the ability to say, yes, I know what it looks like to see someone get hit in the head with a piece of debris that fell from however many stories up (it's not pleasant), among a whole other string of horrors most of you never, ever want to witness in real life.

It breaks my heart further, to think of the Iraqi children and parents who have similar images on the mind, on the anniversaries of their people being slaughtered by forces outside of their control.

And there are an awful lot of people who share that perspective with me. I don't expect anyone to understand, who hasn't borne witness to such events.


Indeed, while 9/11 was hard for all of America it's impossible to imagine what it was like for New York. It's got to be tough when someone mocks the death of your friends and family.
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if anyone can point out any instance in this thread of anyone

a) mocking the victims of 9/11
b) mocking the deaths of anyone's friends or family

could they do so please so we can start arguing the point.
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kyleboy wrote:if you take the word september, and rearrange the letters to form 'remetbeps', then substitute the 't' for an 'm' and the 'sp' for an 'r' you get 'remember'.

someone surely planned that one quite carefully!


That one reeked of smarmy douchebag, I'd say.
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Frigidus wrote:
kyleboy wrote:if you take the word september, and rearrange the letters to form 'remetbeps', then substitute the 't' for an 'm' and the 'sp' for an 'r' you get 'remember'.

someone surely planned that one quite carefully!


That one reeked of smarmy douchebag, I'd say.



i think that made reference to the conspiracy theories (which probably do undermine the memory of those who died:- your government killed you so it could invade Iraq! .. that one must genuinely grate the families of the dead!)

If you remember there was some debate about this being done on 'Nine One One' day ... as already said, most non-Americans put the day first .. so perhaps it was an American who conceived of the plan to give greater 'Emergency' to the theatre.
That is patently as ridiculous of rearranging the letters of 'September' to make 'remember'.
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You guys are rather sick. Then again what should be expected of people who come on the internet to slam others. Show some respect for the lives lost and what it means to this world. The world is forever changed since that day and you all know it. Don't act like asses just because you can. I personally did not know anybody in the towers, but I had buddies who did. May they rest in peace. I know many people around the world were affected by it, so lets keep the BS out of here and leave it for another day and time.

I will not be coming back to this thread, but I can say this. This is day soon not to be forgotten by most. Show respect or GTFO.


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I worked late nights back then and my mother would come over after she was done with work and get my children ready for school...My oldest two kids were in middle school and had already left the house...My two youngest daughters were in elementary...My mother was combing and braiding thier hair and I was preparing thier breakfast when my middle daughter said that building is on fire...Me and my mother thought she was kidding but we started watching the news thinking that a fire had broken out at the twin towers when we saw, horrified, a second plane hit the other tower...We were in disbelief at what we had just witnessed and my kids, bless thier hearts, realized they were not watching a movie but an ugly chapter of history being written...needless to say I kept my kids from school that day and asked them to write a prayer for those who died...Every year on 9/11 they write thier own prayer now...Many people felt and still feel we should just nuke the Muslim man but I say that not every black is affiliated with gangs, not every mexican is an illegal alien, not every white is a redneck, and not every Muslim is a terrorist...
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Bruceswar wrote:You guys are rather sick. Then again what should be expected of people who come on the internet to slam others. Show some respect for the lives lost and what it means to this world. The world is forever changed since that day and you all know it. Don't act like asses just because you can. I personally did not know anybody in the towers, but I had buddies who did. May they rest in peace. I know many people around the world were affected by it, so lets keep the BS out of here and leave it for another day and time.

I will not be coming back to this thread, but I can say this. This is day soon not to be forgotten by most. Show respect or GTFO.


P.S. Heavy Cola your sig is sickening..


More than anything, this thread shows the real difference between the American and British sense of humour and expression.
I once heard the British described as having 'a stiff upper lip and a lower one trembling simultaneously with laughter' . Humour is something the Brits rely on a lot and most especially in their darker moments. Comedy and humour helped see them through 2 world wars and shone a little light on situations which would otherwise be unbearable.

So, no one is making light of the tradegy at all Bruce - it's an event that most of us will remember with continuing disbelief and sadness, wherever we come from.

p.s. I'll warrant Heavy Cola's sig is not to be taken seriously, though just in case, I intend avoiding him from now on.
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mandyb wrote:More than anything, this thread shows the real difference between the American and British sense of humour and expression.
I once heard the British described as having 'a stiff upper lip and a lower one trembling simultaneously with laughter' . Humour is something the Brits rely on a lot and most especially in their darker moments. Comedy and humour helped see them through 2 world wars and shone a little light on situations which would otherwise be unbearable.



Yes, this may be true. Please direct me to all of the threads mocking the bombings in London of 7 July 2005.

Especially those threads on the topic created by Americans and those created by Brits.

The Brits might be happy to joke about this stuff, but I'm not seeing any of that famous British self-deprecation going on here. And I'm not trying to go after anyone in particular, posting in this thread. I'm just trying to highlight how easy it is to see the "humor" in something you haven't experienced yourself.

So, anyone here poking fun at some aspect of 9/11, how many of you have witnessed a real terrorist attack? Did you find that attack hilarious?

(That is, of course, a rhetorical question. I'll know you haven't witnessed an attack if you go ahead and describe it's hilarity, but go to town, trolls.)
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pimpdave wrote:
mandyb wrote:More than anything, this thread shows the real difference between the American and British sense of humour and expression.
I once heard the British described as having 'a stiff upper lip and a lower one trembling simultaneously with laughter' . Humour is something the Brits rely on a lot and most especially in their darker moments. Comedy and humour helped see them through 2 world wars and shone a little light on situations which would otherwise be unbearable.



Yes, this may be true. Please direct me to all of the threads mocking the bombings in London of 7 July 2005.

Especially those threads on the topic created by Americans and those created by Brits.

The Brits might be happy to joke about this stuff, but I'm not seeing any of that famous British self-deprecation going on here. And I'm not trying to go after anyone in particular, posting in this thread. I'm just trying to highlight how easy it is to see the "humor" in something you haven't experienced yourself.

So, anyone here poking fun at some aspect of 9/11, how many of you have witnessed a real terrorist attack? Did you find that attack hilarious?

(That is, of course, a rhetorical question. I'll know you haven't witnessed an attack if you go ahead and describe it's hilarity, but go to town, trolls.)

Now then Dave, I see some humour here, but the only mocking I see is against you and not against the event in question.
You're attacking people without just cause here - looks to me like you're rather enjoying ranting your spiel from your little pedastal to the sniggering heathens' below. You're way out of line mate. You need to pipe down, keep that temper of yours in check and direct it towards a more deserving foe.
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pimpdave wrote:
mandyb wrote:More than anything, this thread shows the real difference between the American and British sense of humour and expression.
I once heard the British described as having 'a stiff upper lip and a lower one trembling simultaneously with laughter' . Humour is something the Brits rely on a lot and most especially in their darker moments. Comedy and humour helped see them through 2 world wars and shone a little light on situations which would otherwise be unbearable.



Yes, this may be true. Please direct me to all of the threads mocking the bombings in London of 7 July 2005.

Especially those threads on the topic created by Americans and those created by Brits.

The Brits might be happy to joke about this stuff, but I'm not seeing any of that famous British self-deprecation going on here. And I'm not trying to go after anyone in particular, posting in this thread. I'm just trying to highlight how easy it is to see the "humor" in something you haven't experienced yourself.

So, anyone here poking fun at some aspect of 9/11, how many of you have witnessed a real terrorist attack? Did you find that attack hilarious?

(That is, of course, a rhetorical question. I'll know you haven't witnessed an attack if you go ahead and describe it's hilarity, but go to town, trolls.)


The thread was aimed at those that are so self absorbed that they cannot after all this time recognise that the event was A tragedy not THE tragedy, your posts perfectly underline the scope of this narrow mindedness and are certainly fair game for mockery. I might add that your refusal to acknowledge that nobody has actually done what you have accused them of( laughing at the victims ) rather gives the game away......your a pratt !
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joecoolfrog wrote:
pimpdave wrote:
mandyb wrote:More than anything, this thread shows the real difference between the American and British sense of humour and expression.
I once heard the British described as having 'a stiff upper lip and a lower one trembling simultaneously with laughter' . Humour is something the Brits rely on a lot and most especially in their darker moments. Comedy and humour helped see them through 2 world wars and shone a little light on situations which would otherwise be unbearable.



Yes, this may be true. Please direct me to all of the threads mocking the bombings in London of 7 July 2005.

Especially those threads on the topic created by Americans and those created by Brits.

The Brits might be happy to joke about this stuff, but I'm not seeing any of that famous British self-deprecation going on here. And I'm not trying to go after anyone in particular, posting in this thread. I'm just trying to highlight how easy it is to see the "humor" in something you haven't experienced yourself.

So, anyone here poking fun at some aspect of 9/11, how many of you have witnessed a real terrorist attack? Did you find that attack hilarious?

(That is, of course, a rhetorical question. I'll know you haven't witnessed an attack if you go ahead and describe it's hilarity, but go to town, trolls.)


The thread was aimed at those that are so self absorbed that they cannot after all this time recognise that the event was A tragedy not THE tragedy, your posts perfectly underline the scope of this narrow mindedness and are certainly fair game for mockery. I might add that your refusal to acknowledge that nobody has actually done what you have accused them of( laughing at the victims ) rather gives the game away......your a pratt !


The event was a tragedy for most but please remember for some people this event was THE tradegy for them. People who were directly affected by this tragedy are not self absorbed they are just heartbroken. As are the millions of other people in this world that mourn the passing of others on the date of their death.
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joecoolfrog wrote:
pimpdave wrote:
mandyb wrote:More than anything, this thread shows the real difference between the American and British sense of humour and expression.
I once heard the British described as having 'a stiff upper lip and a lower one trembling simultaneously with laughter' . Humour is something the Brits rely on a lot and most especially in their darker moments. Comedy and humour helped see them through 2 world wars and shone a little light on situations which would otherwise be unbearable.



Yes, this may be true. Please direct me to all of the threads mocking the bombings in London of 7 July 2005.

Especially those threads on the topic created by Americans and those created by Brits.

The Brits might be happy to joke about this stuff, but I'm not seeing any of that famous British self-deprecation going on here. And I'm not trying to go after anyone in particular, posting in this thread. I'm just trying to highlight how easy it is to see the "humor" in something you haven't experienced yourself.

So, anyone here poking fun at some aspect of 9/11, how many of you have witnessed a real terrorist attack? Did you find that attack hilarious?

(That is, of course, a rhetorical question. I'll know you haven't witnessed an attack if you go ahead and describe it's hilarity, but go to town, trolls.)


The thread was aimed at those that are so self absorbed that they cannot after all this time recognise that the event was A tragedy not THE tragedy, your posts perfectly underline the scope of this narrow mindedness and are certainly fair game for mockery. I might add that your refusal to acknowledge that nobody has actually done what you have accused them of( laughing at the victims ) rather gives the game away......your a pratt !


Why would anyone feel the need to point that out though? Why compare severity of tragedies?

It's like saying "Calm down dude, I know you mom died, but she's not the only mom to ever die"
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pimpdave wrote:Yes, this may be true. Please direct me to all of the threads mocking the bombings in London of 7 July 2005.


i have a picture of one of the buses captioned 'visit britain, it's a blast' if that counts

pimpdave wrote:So, anyone here poking fun at some aspect of 9/11, how many of you have witnessed a real terrorist attack? Did you find that attack hilarious?


how many times do you need it to be spelt out for you that no one is making fun of anything that shouldn't be made fun of. the only aspects of 9/11 reffered to in light you yourself have already admitted it is probably acceptable to mock (e.g. the troofers, OTT patriots, and so on)
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