Make seq default setting when creating games [Done]

Suggestions that have been archived.

Moderator: Community Team

Velvecarrots
Posts: 175
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:40 pm

Make seq default setting when creating games [Done]

Post by Velvecarrots »

Concise description:

  • Lots of new players who join the site start a freestyle game because they are too lazy or too ignorant to check it.
  • Many new players start a game without changing any settings, and it ends up being a classic freestyle esc chained sunny 2 player game, which a high rank usually joins and point farms.

Specifics:
  • Switch "Freestyle" with "Sequential" in the start a game menu.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Less freestyle games will be created unintentionally.
  • New players will have a fighting chance in their first game, and, if/when they have more success, are likely to continue playing CC.
  • Higher ranks won't point farm (not saying that high ranks point farming decreases the quality of the site, but I think it's unfair for a new player to get pounded by a high ranker when they didn't intend to create a freestyle game)

NOTES:
- New players most likely have only played the board game risk, if any risk at all. In both scenarios, there is no freestyle.
- I think a majority of new players intend to create a sequential game, so it makes sense to have sequential as the default setting.
This game was once fun, but the necessity to log in every day finally took its toll on me.

Best Score: 4660 (11/20/10)
Best Rank: 1 (8/2/13)
User avatar
BaldAdonis
Posts: 2334
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:57 am
Location: Trapped in Pleasantville with Toby McGuire

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by BaldAdonis »

Not just new players, I've seen a number of tournament games that had to be remade because freestyle was the default.
User avatar
Zemljanin
Posts: 585
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:27 am

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by Zemljanin »

I wanted to suggest it myself long time ago, with similar explanation, but I've been too lazy. Thanks Velvecarrots!
That would be very significant improvement and it's extremely easy to apply.
The lowest rank: Question Mark
The lowest score: 1000
The lowest place on the scoreboard: don't remember
User avatar
steve monkey
Posts: 490
Joined: Sat May 13, 2006 5:25 pm
Location: London

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by steve monkey »

i agree too, good suggestion.
Image

May the dice gods shine favourably upon you.
User avatar
max is gr8
Posts: 3720
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:44 am
Location: In a big ball of light sent from the future

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by max is gr8 »

But what about people that normally create freestyle NO WAY.
‹max is gr8› so you're a tee-total healthy-eating sex-addict?
‹New_rules› Everyone has some bad habits
(4th Jan 2010)
User avatar
Army of Achilles
Posts: 965
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:16 pm
Location: Troy

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by Army of Achilles »

great suggestion
Image
Ditocoaf
Posts: 1054
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:17 pm
Location: Being eaten by the worms and weird fishes

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by Ditocoaf »

Totally agree. Freestyle can hardly be considered the standard. Many (including myself) consider it to be broken. Why is that the default, go-to play style on the menu?
Image

>----------✪ Try to take down the champion in the continuous IPW/GIL tournament! ✪----------<

Note to self: THINK LESS LIVE MORE
User avatar
Herakilla
Posts: 4283
Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:33 pm
Location: Wandering the world, spreading Conquerism

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by Herakilla »

its probably default because F is before S alphabetically. but i agree with the suggestion even though i play mostly fs now
Come join us in Live Chat!
User avatar
Night Strike
Posts: 8512
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:52 pm
Gender: Male

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by Night Strike »

I know this has been suggested before, but I don't think it was given a status.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets changed once the Game Finder/Start a Game revamps make it to the top of lack's to-do list.
Image
User avatar
yeti_c
Posts: 9624
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:02 am
Gender: Male

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by yeti_c »

Herakilla wrote:its probably default because F is before S alphabetically. but i agree with the suggestion even though i play mostly fs now


C is before A in Chained Adjacent Unlimited?
C.
Image
Highest score : 2297
User avatar
BENJIKAT IS DEAD
Posts: 775
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:47 am
Location: Waterloo

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by BENJIKAT IS DEAD »

I have been meaning to suggest this for ages, but keep on forgetting.

I wholeheartedly approve of it... new players would be more likely to have a positive first experience of the site.

I have no problem with the point farming (MOBA, rabbiton and torcav are actually fairly polite in their games with noobs), but it will be interesting to see whether these guys can maintain general without a steady supply of their staple diet.
Image
Velvecarrots
Posts: 175
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:40 pm

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by Velvecarrots »

Night Strike wrote:I know this has been suggested before, but I don't think it was given a status.


Looks like it has happened again. :?

I think this suggestion deserves to be given some status.
This game was once fun, but the necessity to log in every day finally took its toll on me.

Best Score: 4660 (11/20/10)
Best Rank: 1 (8/2/13)
User avatar
MrBenn
Posts: 6880
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:32 am
Location: Off Duty

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by MrBenn »

This is a VERY good idea in my opinion...

Game Finder wrote:Sequential: 1,821,728 results on 18,218 pages
Freestyle: 739,138 results on 7,392 pages

That should settle the "but lots of people play freestyle" debate ;-)

edit: curiously, that makes a total of around 2.5 million games, when the current game numbers are over 3 million... that's a lot of missing games...
Image
PB: 2661 | He's blue... If he were green he would die | No mod would be stupid enough to do that
blakebowling
Posts: 5093
Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:09 pm
Gender: Male
Location: 127.0.0.1

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by blakebowling »

MrBenn wrote:This is a VERY good idea in my opinion...

Game Finder wrote:Sequential: 1,821,728 results on 18,218 pages
Freestyle: 739,138 results on 7,392 pages

That should settle the "but lots of people play freestyle" debate ;-)

edit: curiously, that makes a total of around 2.5 million games, when the current game numbers are over 3 million... that's a lot of missing games...

right, but you're not counting games were dropped, as the #'s are not re used, and games that the logs were lost (as they don't show up in game finder)
bedub1
Posts: 1005
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:41 am
Gender: Male

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by bedub1 »

Night Strike wrote:I know this has been suggested before, but I don't think it was given a status.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets changed once the Game Finder/Start a Game revamps make it to the top of lack's to-do list.


I think it's a great idea too. We already tried to create a thread to revamp the Game Finder/Start a Game pages and was completely ignored. Thus the major problem with this forum. So many great ideas that nobody pays any attention to and they just fall to the wayside.
User avatar
Night Strike
Posts: 8512
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:52 pm
Gender: Male

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by Night Strike »

bedub1 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:I know this has been suggested before, but I don't think it was given a status.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets changed once the Game Finder/Start a Game revamps make it to the top of lack's to-do list.


I think it's a great idea too. We already tried to create a thread to revamp the Game Finder/Start a Game pages and was completely ignored. Thus the major problem with this forum. So many great ideas that nobody pays any attention to and they just fall to the wayside.


No, it wasn't completely ignored. The graphic guru who was hired ended up having to leave unexpectedly soon after, so very few of those planned changes ever got implemented.
Image
blakebowling
Posts: 5093
Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:09 pm
Gender: Male
Location: 127.0.0.1

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by blakebowling »

Night Strike wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:I know this has been suggested before, but I don't think it was given a status.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets changed once the Game Finder/Start a Game revamps make it to the top of lack's to-do list.


I think it's a great idea too. We already tried to create a thread to revamp the Game Finder/Start a Game pages and was completely ignored. Thus the major problem with this forum. So many great ideas that nobody pays any attention to and they just fall to the wayside.


No, it wasn't completely ignored. The graphic guru who was hired ended up having to leave unexpectedly soon after, so very few of those planned changes ever got implemented.

You're telling me they can't find someone to do graphics. :shock: :shock:


Maybe if you offered a Medal ;)
bedub1
Posts: 1005
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:41 am
Gender: Male

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by bedub1 »

blakebowling wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:I know this has been suggested before, but I don't think it was given a status.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets changed once the Game Finder/Start a Game revamps make it to the top of lack's to-do list.


I think it's a great idea too. We already tried to create a thread to revamp the Game Finder/Start a Game pages and was completely ignored. Thus the major problem with this forum. So many great ideas that nobody pays any attention to and they just fall to the wayside.


No, it wasn't completely ignored. The graphic guru who was hired ended up having to leave unexpectedly soon after, so very few of those planned changes ever got implemented.

You're telling me they can't find someone to do graphics. :shock: :shock:


Maybe if you offered a Medal ;)

blake...the thread for fixing the pages was nothing more than moving the crap from the bottom to the top. Simple cut and paste. I'm just guessing that lack is using his iphone to edit the pages and thus can't use cut/paste......i dunno though.....

Hell...this idea is a simple cut/paste too...just move the one on the left to the right....
User avatar
Grifter
Posts: 224
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:49 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Ontario, Canada

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by Grifter »

I agree. Sequential should be the default setting for a newgame.
blakebowling
Posts: 5093
Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:09 pm
Gender: Male
Location: 127.0.0.1

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by blakebowling »

Grifter wrote:I agree. Sequential should be the default setting for a newgame.

Yeah, but this is one of those tedious things that could be done in 30-45 seconds.
bedub1
Posts: 1005
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:41 am
Gender: Male

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by bedub1 »

blakebowling wrote:
Grifter wrote:I agree. Sequential should be the default setting for a newgame.

Yeah, but this is one of those tedious things that could be done in 30-45 seconds.

I thought of it a long time ago too...but was like egh....it's so obvious there must be a reason it wasn't changed. Then I learned it's just too tedious.
blakebowling
Posts: 5093
Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:09 pm
Gender: Male
Location: 127.0.0.1

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by blakebowling »

bedub1 wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
Grifter wrote:I agree. Sequential should be the default setting for a newgame.

Yeah, but this is one of those tedious things that could be done in 30-45 seconds.

I thought of it a long time ago too...but was like egh....it's so obvious there must be a reason it wasn't changed. Then I learned it's just too tedious.

Lack should get his own bitch, to do this kind of stuff for him


In if he's looking for one.
User avatar
lgoasklucyl
Posts: 526
Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:49 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Somewhere in the 20th century.

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by lgoasklucyl »

I agree entirely. I know there's enough support for it already, but I figured I could add my two cents as a bump 8-)
User avatar
White Moose
Posts: 2015
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:33 am
Location: Sweden

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by White Moose »

This will prevent most 1v1 noob farming. So just change it already, great suggestion.
Image
Highest Score: 3374
pookey
Posts: 107
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:13 am

Re: Make seq default setting when creating games

Post by pookey »

Great idea, i am sure more seq games are created over freestyle so why not have seq as the default option??

And it is not only new players who do this, i am sure many people have created a freestyle game unintentionally.
Post Reply

Return to “Archived Suggestions”