9/11 Conspiracies(threads merged)

[Juan_Bottom]

Where is the plane?

It was reported ON 911 that flight 93 was at the Cincinatti airport at the same time it was supposed to have crashed in the field. It's id tags were in fact, recorded there. I posted those links earlier.
The others... who would know? For it to be a conspiracy, that would be a secret.

How did "they" plant everything without the hundreds of civilian police, fire & rescue workers on-site seeing them?

The missle, hypothetically, could be a delivory device, and would also explain the lack of 80% of the jet. The same as vaporization could. It would even explain more than that.

Perhaps...people see all sorts of things in moments of trauma...

These were career military men. I'm just saying, for the record.

Juan_Bottom wrote:
Where are all the 60 tapes of the plane hitting the Pentagon??? hmmm?

Now Now...stay on the topic at hand.

YOU!!!! I was answering your question, with the same sarcasm you threw at me.

Just a few tiny little questions...

Questions posed are to be hypothetical, and rhetorical right?

Big planes don't stop when they hit walls, they just go through till they hit a few more walls.

tht doesn't answer my question, and complicates it more.
Big plane makes little hole. Engines and wings disappear through said tiny hole, along with the fusalage, and fuel...

So the fire outside of the building is minimal, whereas inside, everything is so hot that it vaporizes. But still, that's a lot of plane to fit inside of that hole... and how the hell did the engine get in there?

[Backglass]

But still, that's a lot of plane to fit inside of that hole... and how the hell did the engine get in there?

That's easy!

It was planted by one of the millions of shadowy government robots that live among us!

Even your wife could be one....just like in Total Recall!

"GET YOUR ASS TO MAHHHHHS!!!!!"

[Juan_Bottom]

So you have no idea and it doesn't make too much sense to you either huh?

I took Psycology buddy.

[Backglass]

So you have no idea and it doesn't make too much sense to you either huh?

I took Psycology buddy.

Too bad they didn't teach you how to spell it.

Did they also talk about Mass Hysteria?

[Juan_Bottom]

So you have no idea and it doesn't make too much sense to you either huh?

I took Psycology buddy.

Too bad they didn't teach you how to spell it.

Did they also talk about Mass Hysteria?

How about you answer my question. Does it make sense to you that that engine ended up in that little hole?

P.S. No, yet I think you applied it incorrectly.

[Dancing Mustard]

How about you answer my question. Does it make sense to you that that engine ended up in that little hole?

Not that I'm an expert on blast physics or anything here, but it does seem to make more sense that the engine continued travelling in the direction of the planes momentum, rather than just suddenly switching direction, going into reverse, and landing on an arbitrary patch of lawn.

Also, if you don't think that's how the engine did get to where it appears to be in the photos. Then how do you think it got there?

Sure, nobody has a high quality timestamped video of it flying through the wreckage of the pentagon, but Ockham's razor our two competing theories, and it seems that the 'travelled in momentum of vehicle' theory is (by far) the most likely explanation here. No?

[Juan_Bottom]

How about you answer my question. Does it make sense to you that that engine ended up in that little hole?

Not that I'm an expert on blast physics or anything here, but it does seem to make more sense that the engine continued travelling in the direction of the planes momentum, rather than just suddenly switching direction, going into reverse, and landing on an arbitrary patch of lawn.

Also, if you don't think that's how the engine did get to where it appears to be in the photos. Then how do you think it got there?

Sure, nobody has a high quality timestamped video of it flying through the wreckage of the pentagon, but Ockham's razor our two competing theories, and it seems that the 'travelled in momentum of vehicle' theory is (by far) the most likely explanation here. No?

I agree that the engine should continue moving forward! However I dont believe that it should break off of the wing, and move fifty feet to the left, and enter a twelve foot hole. Shouldn't it have just hit the wall or ground in front of it?

From inital contact with the building, till the time the engine went through the fusaloges hole, should have been a fraction of a second. That's a strange move for the engine to make in that amount of time, no?

I'm not saying "CONSPIRACY!!" here... it's just weird.

[Neoteny]

Where are all the 60 tapes of the plane hitting the Pentagon??? hmmm?

I imagine they are with all the 60 tapes of the first plane hitting the tower. If nobody was looking, nobody got it on tape.

[Grooveman2007]

This should resolve this arguement.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/9_11_conspiracy_theories

[Juan_Bottom]

Where are all the 60 tapes of the plane hitting the Pentagon??? hmmm?

I imagine they are with all the 60 tapes of the first plane hitting the tower. If nobody was looking, nobody got it on tape.

No no no! Within 45 minutes of the pentagon being struck, all local businesses were stripped of their security tapes by the FBI. In all there were about 60 tapes that were pointed at the Pentagon, not counting the Pentagon's security tapes. After suite, the CIA released one tape of the crash. BUT!!!! It only shows 3 frames of an explosions. It's less than a second of only fire.

It doesn't matter, I was just making the point that all the CIA would have to do is release a single frame of PLANE.

Wierd how most people are unaware that there was so much footage of that hit.

[Neoteny]

Where are all the 60 tapes of the plane hitting the Pentagon??? hmmm?

I imagine they are with all the 60 tapes of the first plane hitting the tower. If nobody was looking, nobody got it on tape.

No no no! Within 45 minutes of the pentagon being struck, all local businesses were stripped of their security tapes by the FBI. In all there were about 60 tapes that were pointed at the Pentagon, not counting the Pentagon's security tapes. After suite, the CIA released one tape of the crash. BUT!!!! It only shows 3 frames of an explosions. It's less than a second of only fire.

It doesn't matter, I was just making the point that all the CIA would have to do is release a single frame of PLANE.

Wierd how most people are unaware that there was so much footage of that hit.

Oh. Well, it is the Pentagon. Maybe they were trying to gather evidence?

[joecoolfrog]

My Radio Alarm failed to go off yesterday and my 3 minute egg was softer than normal - further proof of the rise of the Lizardmen or conclusive evidence that the end days are upon us .... you decide !

[joe cool 360]

I agree that the engine should continue moving forward! However I dont believe that it should break off of the wing, and move fifty feet to the left, and enter a twelve foot hole. Shouldn't it have just hit the wall or ground in front of it?

From inital contact with the building, till the time the engine went through the fusaloges hole, should have been a fraction of a second. That's a strange move for the engine to make in that amount of time, no?

That's because the exit hole in ring C was the landing gear and the entry hole was actually about 75ft. across.

[DaGip]

I know there is a lot of questions over 9 11 yet, and they will never be answered. We have to realize that whatever happened pushed us into a war in which we can not get out of.

But I do know this, two things for sure happened on that day:


Us!





THEM!

And Obama wants to talk with those guys? Fidel Castro is preparing to talk with Obama? Obama wants to talk with Ahmedinajad?

America, by electing Obama, has certified that it wants to lose the war. Be prepared for the consequences, it won't be pretty.

[black elk speaks]

those automatic weapons are looking more and more necessary if you ask me.

[Backglass]

And Obama wants to talk with those guys? Fidel Castro is preparing to talk with Obama? Obama wants to talk with Ahmedinajad?

As opposed to sticking your head in the sand or giving them the silent treatment like a little school girl? That has been Bush's policy and it has worked great, hasn't it.

No. Talk. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

America, by electing Obama, has certified that it wants to lose the war. Be prepared for the consequences, it won't be pretty.

America, by electing Obama, has sent a clear message that they are sick and tired of crooked, redneck politicians making very bad decisions in a vacuum. They have paved the way for the horrible Republican consequences we see all around us to be stopped and then corrected. The incredible Iraqi financial drain on our nation will END and we can finally look towards our OWN backyard and help our own countrymen instead of trying to fix everyone else's issues while our own people are hungry, sick and out in the cold. Bravo America. The world is proud of you.

[joe cool 360]

Bravo America. The world is proud of you.

Actually, I've talked to a lot of people who live in other countries, and to be sure there are many who dislike our country, but even more like our country and are thankful for the things that we do for the world. That doesn't mean they like us in Iraq, but in the same way that it is possible for an American who loves his country to be critical of the war, it is possible for someone who lives outside of America to like our country but not like our reasoning behind the war.

I've found that the people who hate or even just dislike America are the vocal minority.