Skoffin's Madhouse mafia Day Seven

[The1exile]

Vote count:
kwan (2) -- Tal, fircoal
ga7 (1) -- kalish
Tal (1) -- mil
mil (1) -- icedagger
ani (1) -- sam
futurerichguy (1) -- illiad
Dito (10) -- flores, mr. i, futurerichguy, danodukebb, ga7, will, DRoZ, TWO, william18, icedagger (7 to lynch)
sam_levi_11 (1) -- nag

FWIW guys I'm not sure I believe dito, because he claimed almost exactly the same role as me. It seems like it might have been given to scum as a fake claim.

As such, FOS Dito.

[Ditocoaf]

What do yuo mean?

if you haven't played super smash bros, go get an N64 emulator f0r your PC, download it, and play kirby. Then you will understand.

(In other news, jeez, what's fircoal for if not explaining random nintendo crap?)

Woah... they have a N64 emulator? Holy shit I need one of those. N64 stuff still seems advanced to me, since it's the most advanced system I've ever played. (the most advanced I've ever owned is a NES... it was already an antique when I bought it, but the games were still really fooking fun.)

[Ditocoaf]

Vote count:
kwan (2) -- Tal, fircoal
ga7 (1) -- kalish
Tal (1) -- mil
mil (1) -- icedagger
ani (1) -- sam
futurerichguy (1) -- illiad
Dito (10) -- flores, mr. i, futurerichguy, danodukebb, ga7, will, DRoZ, TWO, william18, icedagger (7 to lynch)
sam_levi_11 (1) -- nag

FWIW guys I'm not sure I believe dito, because he claimed almost exactly the same role as me. It seems like it might have been given to scum as a fake claim.

As such, FOS Dito.

you're not serious, are you? Because this is the first vote count you've done all game; how would you expect to get two in before lynch?

[F1fth]

He's claimed survivor, if we were certain he was a survivor of course I wouldn't vote him. And we'd be better off if the mafia targeted him, survivor with no power is pretty much the role we can afford to lose most..

My point is, if someone's got to the point where they need to roleclaim, their role needs to be better than survior to avert a lynch. Or we'll end up with everyone claimed and no one lynched.. it's not hard to fake a role in a game like this

Indeed it is easy to fake a claim, but still I would rather lynch scum than town/third party. And I not sure if this is what you're saying, but are suggesting he lie about his role? If anything, that hurts the town more than anything. I would much rather wait one night on an investigative role than to lynch someone who can do no harm to the town. And that's besides the fact that if he is a survivor, that doesn't help town at all to kill him at this point.

Unvote Dito

FOS icedagger for pushing a non-scum lynch.

What are you on about? I'm not pushing a non-scum lynch, we have no idea whether dito is scum or not. You seem to be advocating a no-lynch today.. going straight to night helps no one but scum.

Nope, I would not advocate a no-lynch on day 1 in a large game like this. I only say that we wait for a little verification before lynching Dito, since his claim seemed well enough to justify patience. The only evidence you have to lynch him is essentially "that claim could have been faked." Maybe this is sufficent if there's a deadline and we don't find a better alternative, but as is, we have all the time in the world.

But this Exile thing is interesting indeed. Were you serious about what you said about your role, Exile?

[Fircoal]

If you wanna know why people are voting you right now, it's this kind of behavior. When some people voted for a new guy (I don't even think they were serious votes), you got pissy with them. Some people voted you, you got pissy with them. And now you're going to quit the game because of it?

How immature. You're taking this freaking game personally, and if you don't see that THAT is the problem here, I guess you have a lot of growing up to do.

Quoted because F1fth has also 'gotten pissy and quitted mafia over it'
Actually, I think I've done the same thing..several times. So Frankly I'm not sure whether Dito is absolutely serious or if he'll cool off by tomorrow and continue on.


Anyway, I'll start prodding players in the morning.

a lot of us have actually. I kinda find it funny how some of us keep on making threads for stuff saying that we're going to quit and yet never do.

[Fircoal]

Heh, I was half expecting an angsty answer but boy was I served.
Dito, you sound like you forgot this is a game. If you take things too seriously and personally you won't have fun. Take a break if you need, but I'd just like to point out every game is different, and as LSU said a game with lousy beginning can get REALLY awesome arguing-wise after some days. Additionally the size of the game has often a lot to do with what kind of arguments are put forth, but well the two are linked.

I won't answer in detail this whole block of theory because frankly it bores the f*ck out of me but I think it all boils down to play style. How do you explain some people get weirdly if ever lynched? Or some people getting lynched day 1 3 times in a row when town (NES )? It's not about following a guideline of things to say or not, because there's pretty diverse styles amongst these people. It's mostly about being able to talk your way out of anything. Explain your actions. Counter attack with basis. etc...

OH COME ON!!! I get lynched because you guys think it's fun to vote me. Especially in rt games. With all the fastposting of votes of me. -_- XD

and I take things too seriously and personally and I can still have fun

Btw, starting at night sucks for the poor f*ck who gets NKed systematically before even saying a word

QUICK KILL FRENCHIE-CHAN!!!!!

[FloresDelMal]

But don't stop lynching me now... remember scum would make that claim; it's not as blatant as a townie claim...

I think a death wish should always be respected, Euthanasy for the win!!!

[F1fth]

Heh, I was half expecting an angsty answer but boy was I served.
Dito, you sound like you forgot this is a game. If you take things too seriously and personally you won't have fun. Take a break if you need, but I'd just like to point out every game is different, and as LSU said a game with lousy beginning can get REALLY awesome arguing-wise after some days. Additionally the size of the game has often a lot to do with what kind of arguments are put forth, but well the two are linked.

I won't answer in detail this whole block of theory because frankly it bores the f*ck out of me but I think it all boils down to play style. How do you explain some people get weirdly if ever lynched? Or some people getting lynched day 1 3 times in a row when town (NES )? It's not about following a guideline of things to say or not, because there's pretty diverse styles amongst these people. It's mostly about being able to talk your way out of anything. Explain your actions. Counter attack with basis. etc...

OH COME ON!!! I get lynched because you guys think it's fun to vote me. Especially in rt games. With all the fastposting of votes of me. -_- XD

and I take things too seriously and personally and I can still have fun

vote fircoal

How's that for fun??

unvote

[The Weird One]

(In other news, jeez, what's fircoal for if not explaining random nintendo crap?)

Raping kwan?

[Fircoal]

What do yuo mean?

if you haven't played super smash bros, go get an N64 emulator f0r your PC, download it, and play kirby. Then you will understand.

(In other news, jeez, what's fircoal for if not explaining random nintendo crap?)

Actually Exile, in the actual Kirby games, Kirby does suck up his enemies and they disappear until you go away and revisit the area. So really whether you die from being sucked up is at the liberty of the mod. Though I do have a feeling they won't die from copying there is still a chance it works that way.

[mr. incrediball]

is it just me, or does dito's proposal already apply to every day except day 1?

[Ditocoaf]

is it just me, or does dito's proposal already apply to every day except day 1?

No, I've found people tend to say, "that sounds suspicious" based on a specific interperetation, even when the statement could just just as well be said by a townie, on every day of a game. And people who defend themselves are criticized as being "defensive," all throughout the game.

[Macalester]

[13:09] <Skoffin> POST YOU JERK


Right...I'm going away on Saturday and so I won't be very active over that time, but I'll be able to post occasionaly.


Anyway...the thing about Dito's claim is that he can go whichever way he wants which is either beneficial or a hindrance to the town, especially at lylo. However, I think lynching him on Day 1 is stupid as us not lynching him could persuade him to come on the town's side.

[Anarkistsdream]

Does no one else find it odd that Exile claims to have a similar role to Dito AFTER people start taking their votes off of him...

Vote: Exile

[The1exile]

you're not serious, are you? Because this is the first vote count you've done all game; how would you expect to get two in before lynch?

No, it's the second, and thus fulfils requirements. Go read the thread.

Does no one else find it odd that Exile claims to have a similar role to Dito AFTER people start taking their votes off of him...

Vote: Exile

Because I'd really lie to push a lynch on dito, massively great mafia player that he is? Or do you seriously think I could be a mafia day cop of some description who feels that his pretty massive role is better used lynching a historian?

[Anarkistsdream]

Because I'd really lie to push a lynch on dito, massively great mafia player that he is? Or do you seriously think I could be a mafia day cop of some description who feels that his pretty massive role is better used lynching a historian?

Sorry, bro... It still seems suspicious AND out of the blue...

Secondly, don't you think someone like Skoffin- who would scoff her duties as mod- would have more than one person on-board to do vote counts, just so she doesn't have to?

Dito claimed, and his claim is believable... What's yours?

[Ditocoaf]

...maybe skoffin gave multiple people the job of counting votes? Since two is too few anyway. And she might have figured that people would "lynch this guy so that she'll have to do her own vote counts" -- but she doesn't, 'cause she still has more vote counters. Or, exile could be fake claiming and taking advantage of the fact that he's already done a vote count on a whim. But there's no way to be sure, because I just made up the above two interpretations.

And just so people know... I don't see any way a survivor could win with scum. Because scum doesn't know that they're a survivor, so from the scum's point of view, they're town. Unless the survivor happened to claim... but still as a survivor, you don't know who the scum is, so it's really hard to decide to "help scum" in any way. It's much more possible just to play as a townie.

[kalishnikov]

Unvote, vote: AD for playing the way AD does when he's scum.

I apologize for my lack of posts but since I haven't played in awhile I find this day 1 incredibly fucking tedious. However things really seemed to have picked up in the last couple pages.

Ditto- CC mafia rarely has any sort of rationale, to try and force it to will do nothing but make you pissed off (as you've already found out). Trust me on this one, don't let your emotions get involved in this game, emotions and mafia just don't go well together and don't over think it, you'll just set yourself up for anger/disappointment.

lovo obviously can't post, not that we haven't figured that out yet...

FOS: Salubri, your motivation for claiming was...?

And it's good that all us 'mafia quitters' are in this game, shows how well we follow through on things.

[Ditocoaf]

Ditto- CC mafia rarely has any sort of rationale, to try and force it to will do nothing but make you pissed off (as you've already found out). Trust me on this one, don't let your emotions get involved in this game, emotions and mafia just don't go well together and don't over think it, you'll just set yourself up for anger/disappointment.

Don't worry, it's not my emotions. I just argue because that's what I find fun. If I was actually angry or upset, I'd shut off the computer and go yell, or something, I don't know. It would feel weird to vent my anger into a computer.

And I'm going to continue to try to force logic and reasonable debate into every game I may play.

[F1fth]

Unvote, vote: AD for playing the way AD does when he's scum.

I apologize for my lack of posts but since I haven't played in awhile I find this day 1 incredibly fucking tedious. However things really seemed to have picked up in the last couple pages.

Ditto- CC mafia rarely has any sort of rationale, to try and force it to will do nothing but make you pissed off (as you've already found out). Trust me on this one, don't let your emotions get involved in this game, emotions and mafia just don't go well together and don't over think it, you'll just set yourself up for anger/disappointment.

lovo obviously can't post, not that we haven't figured that out yet...

FOS: Salubri, your motivation for claiming was...?

And it's good that all us 'mafia quitters' are in this game, shows how well we follow through on things.

Hi, my name is F1fth, and I'm addicted to mafia.

[F1fth]

And also, I just caught that second post by Exile. I definitely wouldn't consider the possibility of two similar vote counting roles unlikely, given the fact that the more people doing it, the lazier Skoffin can be. But then again, I can think of a few reason Exile might be lying:

1. He's a lyncher
2. There's something more to Dito's role that we don't know and wants him dead (which I'll admit is not likely)
3. His role in some other way pertains to Dito in an publicly unknown manner.

I honestly find the that either he's a lyncher or telling the truth most probable.

[Salubri]

And also, I just caught that second post by Exile. I definitely wouldn't consider the possibility of two similar vote counting roles unlikely, given the fact that the more people doing it, the lazier Skoffin can be. But then again, I can think of a few reason Exile might be lying:

1. He's a lyncher
2. There's something more to Dito's role that we don't know and wants him dead (which I'll admit is not likely)
3. His role in some other way pertains to Dito in an publicly unknown manner.

I honestly find the that either he's a lyncher or telling the truth most probable.

I would think these combined. Something like a player's presence restriction or something.

Kalishnikov, I'm a new guy who doesn't know any of you and just revealed a freakishly overpowered role that relies on the fact that it should not be known lest I get killed early and never use it's potential.

First, think of the role I revealed. Then think of what I would gain by revealing something like that. I think you'll get my motivation. Or if not, then harharhar

[ga7]

Need to catch up but I can't skip an opportunity to laugh at Kalish's face.

Ditto- CC mafia rarely has any sort of rationale, to try and force it to will do nothing but make you pissed off (as you've already found out). Trust me on this one, don't let your emotions get involved in this game, emotions and mafia just don't go well together and don't over think it, you'll just set yourself up for anger/disappointment.

I find it ironic that the last time (before you had to be replaced) you popped up all pissed off because people were voting you you were darth sidious in Lovo's game

Anyway, one question for Ex: are you a survivor too?

[F1fth]

Need to catch up but I can't skip an opportunity to laugh at Kalish's face.

Ditto- CC mafia rarely has any sort of rationale, to try and force it to will do nothing but make you pissed off (as you've already found out). Trust me on this one, don't let your emotions get involved in this game, emotions and mafia just don't go well together and don't over think it, you'll just set yourself up for anger/disappointment.

I find it ironic that the last time (before you had to be replaced) you popped up all pissed off because people were voting you you were darth sidious in Lovo's game

Anyway, one question for Ex: are you a survivor too?

We all have our moments, gaga... except Kwanton... you have to be weary the quiet ones. They're always plotting something.

And also, I would like to politely point out that while I have no life and as such should still be around here, it's a holiday weekend for Americans so I expect it may get a little slow over the next couple days.

[kwanton]

meow

I am kitty

cute little kitty

no threat to town

meow