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[strike wolf]

Yes, Ford is one of the greats. He is the only one who can pull off Indiana Jones, quite possibly the only one who can pull off Han Solo and is a very good in several other movies, one of the most notable ones being The Fugitive (you got to give the people behind the scenes some credit on this one too though, Tommy Lee Jones was a perfect fit for his part). But there is something about him that goes beyond the acting. As I said before he has a certain charisma to him. When he's on screen your attention is almost automatically drawn to him before he even says anything.

[jonesthecurl]

That's what we would call Stage Presence.

It is a quality of great performers of various sorts (actors, dancers, musicians, politicians).

I'm not sure how many people reading this will know who"Gary Glitter" is (in the UK he's these days mainly famous as rhyming slang, e.g. "I had a hot curry last night and it's playing hell with me Gary").

I saw him live once. The guy had absolutly NO talent, no voice, nothing whatever going for him but Stage Presence.

He strutted up and down with his huge pot-belly, he should have been laughable. But somehow he was just magic.

Johnny Rotten (John Lyden) was in the audience, and this was in the heyday of the Sex Pistols, but must people ignored him.

[strike wolf]

Yes that is true he does have great stage presence.

Now a little off track, but as far as great actors/acting performances, there is an actor who in my opinion did an unbelievable acting job in one movie but has never impressed me at any other time. This actor is Val Kilmer and the role was Doc. Holiday in Tombstone. I felt he did a great job portraying the character and really took over the movie. I don't know why but for whatever reason he did have great stage presence in that movie but I have never seen that from him anywhere else.

[jonesthecurl]

I am a big Val Kilmer fan - and yes that was his best role. But he tends to get crap movies to act in, and even he can't quite save them. Check out "The Saint". he really does try hard, but it would take an Olivier to overcome the crap factor in that one.
On the other hand I thought that "Island of Dr Moreau" was extremely fine.

[strike wolf]

I can agree with that sentiment. I thought that he did a pretty good job with his roles in many movies I just never felt that he had the same stage presence that he did in Tombstone (Ironically many of the other roles in that movie were rather poorly acted; Kurt Russell had his share of over-acted and under-acted moments though I always thought he was a bit limited/over-rated in his acting ability anyways.) I haven't seen the Saint though, I rememnber seeing the title coming up when searching through the guide. Was it a police movie of some sort?

[jonesthecurl]

It was based on the character "The Saint", real name Simon Templar (S.T.).

He was an early "loose cannon" type, acting outside the law, but usually a good guy.

This guy was created in the 20's by Leslie Charteris, who also created a number of other action heroes. There were a number of movies made about him in the early days, and at least three TV series, the earliest starring Roger Moore (Now there's a man with limited acting ability, sort of like the Rock without muscles).

There were dozens of books, the best being The Saint in New York. The Val movie was pitiful. Quite why they had to come up with a new (and crap)plot, when there were literally dozens lying around waiting to be used (some of which are really good), I honestly don't know.

I used to be a big Saint fan.

[sam_levi_11]

films me like

(sorry u were gettin too intelligent)

[liamo6969]

just adding my bit!

[Haydena]

A year later, and this is still going! Wow...

[strike wolf]

It was based on the character "The Saint", real name Simon Templar (S.T.).

He was an early "loose cannon" type, acting outside the law, but usually a good guy.

This guy was created in the 20's by Leslie Charteris, who also created a number of other action heroes. There were a number of movies made about him in the early days, and at least three TV series, the earliest starring Roger Moore (Now there's a man with limited acting ability, sort of like the Rock without muscles).

There were dozens of books, the best being The Saint in New York. The Val movie was pitiful. Quite why they had to come up with a new (and crap)plot, when there were literally dozens lying around waiting to be used (some of which are really good), I honestly don't know.

I used to be a big Saint fan.

Hmm...I like the thought put into that name "Simon Templar" Obviously the initials are St. Like the initials for saint but also Templar as a term associated with the church. But it does sound like something I'll have to check out.

[strike wolf]

A year later, and this is still going! Wow...

Hey, haydena. How's it going?

[jonesthecurl]

It was based on the character "The Saint", real name Simon Templar (S.T.).

He was an early "loose cannon" type, acting outside the law, but usually a good guy.

This guy was created in the 20's by Leslie Charteris, who also created a number of other action heroes. There were a number of movies made about him in the early days, and at least three TV series, the earliest starring Roger Moore (Now there's a man with limited acting ability, sort of like the Rock without muscles).

There were dozens of books, the best being The Saint in New York. The Val movie was pitiful. Quite why they had to come up with a new (and crap)plot, when there were literally dozens lying around waiting to be used (some of which are really good), I honestly don't know.

I used to be a big Saint fan.

Hmm...I like the thought put into that name "Simon Templar" Obviously the initials are St. Like the initials for saint but also Templar as a term associated with the church. But it does sound like something I'll have to check out.

His most common alias is "Sebastian Toombs".

[strike wolf]

Just out of curiosity do all of his fake names have the initials S.T.?

[jonesthecurl]

Just out of curiosity do all of his fake names have the initials S.T.?

If I remember correctly, yes (which is a bit of a giveaway), unless he's impersonating somebody in particular.

[jonesthecurl]

One of the books which I managed to bring with me from the UK is an encyclopaedia of the Saint. I have a rather nerdy fascination for books about books (not literary criticisms, but books written by mega-fans, usually about the trashier stuff that I read). I have for instance "Everything You ever wanted to know about the Famous Five", and "Tarzan Alive", and even books about characters where I don't have the darn books, like G-8 the Flying Spy. I used to have "Doc Savage, His Apocalyptic Life", but that went west. Or rather, to be literal, stayed east.

I also have a weakness for books written as "continuations" of a famous book or series, or alternate takes on the original. Again, these are usually written by mega-fans who often know more about the story setting than the original author.

[jonesthecurl]

Took the kids to the movies tonight - "Kung Fu Panda".

Quite amusing, if rather formulaic (I'm getting sick these "just because you're a rat/penguin/jock/priest/boxer/penguin/girl/boy doesn't mean you can't be a cook/dancer/singer/wrestler/jump-roper/surfer dude/soccer player/dancer" movies. I'm waiting for the one about the elephant who wants to be a scuba diver.)

And an amazing cast list - Jack Black, Dustin Hoffman, Angelina Jolie, Jackie Chan, Wendy Liu - eclectic, man. (Though in the case of Jackie Chan, takes away all his talents and leaves him relying on acting, NOT his strong point. I've always felt (I may have said this before) that if Chan could act, he's be as good as Burt Lancaster, one of my all-time favourites. Unfortunately, he's got the moves (less so lately, he's about the same age as me), but could be out-acted by a shop dummy.

[strike wolf]

One of the books which I managed to bring with me from the UK is an encyclopaedia of the Saint. I have a rather nerdy fascination for books about books (not literary criticisms, but books written by mega-fans, usually about the trashier stuff that I read). I have for instance "Everything You ever wanted to know about the Famous Five", and "Tarzan Alive", and even books about characters where I don't have the darn books, like G-8 the Flying Spy. I used to have "Doc Savage, His Apocalyptic Life", but that went west. Or rather, to be literal, stayed east.

I also have a weakness for books written as "continuations" of a famous book or series, or alternate takes on the original. Again, these are usually written by mega-fans who often know more about the story setting than the original author.

That's crazy though I did something like that for Star Wars. Though that was more like this is how episodes I, II and III should have been done. Then just for fun I did a scene where they run into Han Solo as a kid. That's one of the things I was sad about in the new Star Wars, no character who could compare to Solo. Once again a memorable character that only Harrison Ford can pull off to perfection.

[strike wolf]

Took the kids to the movies tonight - "Kung Fu Panda".

Quite amusing, if rather formulaic (I'm getting sick these "just because you're a rat/penguin/jock/priest/boxer/penguin/girl/boy doesn't mean you can't be a cook/dancer/singer/wrestler/jump-roper/surfer dude/soccer player/dancer" movies. I'm waiting for the one about the elephant who wants to be a scuba diver.)

And an amazing cast list - Jack Black, Dustin Hoffman, Angelina Jolie, Jackie Chan, Wendy Liu - eclectic, man. (Though in the case of Jackie Chan, takes away all his talents and leaves him relying on acting, NOT his strong point. I've always felt (I may have said this before) that if Chan could act, he's be as good as Burt Lancaster, one of my all-time favourites. Unfortunately, he's got the moves (less so lately, he's about the same age as me), but could be out-acted by a shop dummy.

The problem with Jackie Chan is the fact that he has such a strong accent. I think he realizes this and that's why he does depend so much on martial arts and prop comedy.

[jonesthecurl]

One of the books which I managed to bring with me from the UK is an encyclopaedia of the Saint. I have a rather nerdy fascination for books about books (not literary criticisms, but books written by mega-fans, usually about the trashier stuff that I read). I have for instance "Everything You ever wanted to know about the Famous Five", and "Tarzan Alive", and even books about characters where I don't have the darn books, like G-8 the Flying Spy. I used to have "Doc Savage, His Apocalyptic Life", but that went west. Or rather, to be literal, stayed east.

I also have a weakness for books written as "continuations" of a famous book or series, or alternate takes on the original. Again, these are usually written by mega-fans who often know more about the story setting than the original author.

That's crazy though I did something like that for Star Wars. Though that was more like this is how episodes I, II and III should have been done. Then just for fun I did a scene where they run into Han Solo as a kid. That's one of the things I was sad about in the new Star Wars, no character who could compare to Solo. Once again a memorable character that only Harrison Ford can pull off to perfection.

In a library sale today I couldn't resist "Grendel" by john Gardner - which tells the story of Beowulf from the monster's viewpoint. I also have his "Moriarty", I think you can see where that one's going. I have "Wildwood", which is the Wind in the Willows from the POV of the working class wildwooders, and I have Adrian Mitchell's Man Friday, a fascinating retelling of the Robinson Crusoe tale.

[strike wolf]

I will tell you this, you do have an interesting taste in books.

[jonesthecurl]

I will tell you this, you do have an interesting taste in books.

I was watching "Monty Python" the other night, and mention was made of a book called "The Amazing History of False Teeth".

I used to have that one too. (that one didn't make the cut when we moved, though if I'd realised it had been immortalised in MP I'd have brought it).

[apey]

*waves enthusiastically from the door*


HI PEOPLES
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[jonesthecurl]

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HI PEOPLES
this thread is dinky

Hello apey - say something more, don't stand at the door there. We're harmless.
Mostly harmless.

[johnnyrotten]

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HI PEOPLES
this thread is dinky

That's what your mum said last night.

Oh, wait, that doesn't work... bugger...

[johnnyrotten]