Deadwood Mafia Its all over! Thanks for playing

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:40 am

i'll post the actions and whatnot tonight after work.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:36 pm

Yea, excellent game, cocksuckers (ok I'll stop now, lol) I just wish I have been in it more but none-the-less I had fun for the little bit I was here.

gimpy: great job on the gold system and night choices(even though I never even got to use it), made the roles far more interesting and game even vanilla roles something to do, well thought out. Also good work on the storyline (like the recruiting of specific characters into specific factions which would make sense story-wise [Trixie, for instance, into the scum, brilliant]) and generally having things make sense, well done.

I'm curious to see the actions and such, should be interesting.

F1fth · Post by **F1fth** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:50 pm

I can tell you my plans, if things went well. (I did think things through quite thoroughly, and I had a reason for doing everything I did).

Kill LSU. (I figured he would try to kill me)
Kill Iliad (I figured he would try to investigate me)

Pursue the LoVo lynch on the grounds that it was unlikely that there be two beloved princesses in the game. This part wasn't set in stone, but I figured it could be done.

Kill Crab (I knew a roleblock could end the game for me, but I was prepared on the account of that happening)
Kill Skoffin (Chances are she would have figured something out at this point)

That would leave 3. Diddle's role would be useless because it would win me the game. And as for Kalish I though his powers would be gone at this point, except vig kill. And Kalish seemed to cautious to risk a vig kill.

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:11 pm

Great game Gimpy, really innovative and really enjoyable.

Could you possibly post the roles of everybody?

CrabNebula · Post by **CrabNebula** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:25 pm

gimpyThewonder wrote:i'll post the actions and whatnot tonight after work.

skimmer, vote diddle :p

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:10 pm

F1fth wrote:I can tell you my plans, if things went well. (I did think things through quite thoroughly, and I had a reason for doing everything I did).

Kill LSU. (I figured he would try to kill me)
Kill Iliad (I figured he would try to investigate me)

Pursue the LoVo lynch on the grounds that it was unlikely that there be two beloved princesses in the game. This part wasn't set in stone, but I figured it could be done.

Kill Crab (I knew a roleblock could end the game for me, but I was prepared on the account of that happening)
Kill Skoffin (Chances are she would have figured something out at this point)

That would leave 3. Diddle's role would be useless because it would win me the game. And as for Kalish I though his powers would be gone at this point, except vig kill. And Kalish seemed to cautious to risk a vig kill.

To be honest, if it would have happened like that I probably would have used my vig kill the night after Iliad died as I'd have it narrowed down by that point to you, crab and Diddle, but I don't know who I would have hit, probably not you so really I'd just be helping you win.

But yea, with only one kill I try to hold it as long as possible for exactly the reason LSU just demonstrated quite brilliantly, and it really wouldn't have been a threat to you at all. If you coulda got rid of LSU somehow this game probably would have been yours unless Iliad took a lucky guess tonight.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:12 pm

Note to self: ALWAYS kill Talapus! ALWAYS! :evil:

Great game Gimpy! (except that 'order in which they have been sent' thingy :wink:

) Dynamic gameplay, lots of interesting roles and no screw-ups by the mod. Well done. =D>

Talapus · Post by **Talapus** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:19 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:Note to self: ALWAYS kill Talapus! ALWAYS!

Great game Gimpy! (except that 'order in which they have been sent' thingy ) Dynamic gameplay, lots of interesting roles and no screw-ups by the mod. Well done.

I took many of you guys out of the game as usual which of course was fun. I never figured out why I am almost always scum when I play large games...I like it, but I'm just saying it's unfair to the rest of you :twisted:

CrabNebula · Post by **CrabNebula** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:20 pm

Talapus wrote:I like it, but I'm just saying it's unfair to the rest of you

I concur, I am never scum

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:30 pm

Talapus wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:Note to self: ALWAYS kill Talapus! ALWAYS!

Great game Gimpy! (except that 'order in which they have been sent' thingy ) Dynamic gameplay, lots of interesting roles and no screw-ups by the mod. Well done.

I took many of you guys out of the game as usual which of course was fun. I never figured out why I am almost always scum when I play large games...I like it, but I'm just saying it's unfair to the rest of you

I don't care that you're always scum, I'm pissed because you're so good at it. :evil:

Talapus · Post by **Talapus** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:43 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
I don't care that you're always scum, I'm pissed because you're so good at it.

Well, we would have done a whole lot better had we not had to focus on killing off your mafia group first. We figured you guys were a bigger threat to us then town so we focused on taking you down. Once we got kwanton, we knew :wink:

. Anyway, thanks again for the game gimpy

Sierra_Leon · Post by **Sierra_Leon** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:22 pm

I saved the message I was going to send Seth Bullock night 4. I didn't know who he was, but I figured from the character that he was our cop. I wonder if Serbia would've gone along with it if he hadn't been killed..

telegraph wrote:My dearest Seth,

How are you holding up? I know you're busy finding those unmasking those mean mafia persons, but I hope you'll find some time to read what I have to say.

The town has been on a lynching frenzie lately. They're hanging people with really not much evidence to go on. I fear that they might accuse even an innocent soul like me of belonging to a mafia, so I'm preparing for my death. If my lynch is drawing near, be sure not to cast the final vote! It would prove fatal to you. Hopefully, one of the bad guys will cast the final vote and I'll be satisfied taking him with me in my death. Or even better: they might try to kill me at night! Whichever way I'm going out, I won't be leaving this place alone. Take care it's not you who or someone you know to be innocent that I take with me.

By the way, I'm in no way going to push the people of Deadwood to vote for me. I'm just preparing you for the worst-case scenario. Our kind telegraph operator, Blazanov, will of course also read this. If you forgot about him: he's calling himself a watcher nowadays. I'm sure you remember. I'm pretty sure he doesn't belong to a mafia organisation either, so him reading along is perfectly alright with me.

I have a request for you. I'm trying very hard to uncover those vile mafia organisations just like you. I know how important it is for you to work incognito, but it would really help me if I at least knew who you are posing as. I could recognize you if you used the word "peculiar" in your first public speech tomorrow. In return, I will use the word "sweet" as my first word tomorrow, so you'll know where I'm hiding. With Blazanov also reading along, we'd be almost like a 3-man masonteam if we all survive the night. That would give us pretty good chances of lynching the right person tomorrow!

I've said all I needed to say. It's up to you to trust me or not. Either way, good luck tomorrow and don't die.

Loving you for eternity,

Alma Garret

I tried to vig LoVo the night after. Good thing someone else sent in their kill before me.

I don't think the actions of my original role had any effect on the game. How did that hidden lover thing work, Gimpy?

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:39 pm

the lover thing was pretty standard, although they both started as town. Trixie being recruitable was the only real variable. They had no knowledge who the other was or anything. And i can't recall if i even told them it was part of their role.

There were a couple of things i never got to use because the players stayed alive too long. Had you killed of diddle there would have been an election for Mayor which would have been interesting, i never thought about what would happen if scum had been elected. There was also going to possibly be an election for sherrif. But Serbia stayed alive for so long that it would have thrown the game out of whack so I decided not to run it.

and I will post everything tonight when i have my spreadsheet. Not everything is on it but just about. anyone know if you can load an excel sheet into CC forums and how?

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:22 pm

Nice game Gimpy, full of innovative and fun stuff; wish I could have played this one complete =)
I don't like much the order of actions stuff either, but I understand how it can be needed in some settings. That makes me think that it might be easier/fairer to just give some kind of "initiative" stat to characters for future games. Anyway, I never knew if I had managed to win Mandy's money at the end, so want to see the night actions too :lol:

I suppose a screenshot of it is the only way tho.

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:30 pm

i thought a little bit about going the initiative route (ala D&D) and maybe that's the way to do it in the future. I just couldn't come up w/ anything I liked so I went w/ my original idea

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:33 pm

Character Name Ability Forum name killed by Night 1 Night 2 Night 3 Night 4 Night 5
Seth Bullock cop/1 kill serbia vig N4 investigate lalaland/ Gold @ 19 investigate AD/1 shot/3games/ 1 trick Total now 37 5 shots/5games/1trick/cop mandy inv pancake
Alma Garret bomb (If Seth Bullock is still alive) SL (replaced)skittles (replaces)Roger Dodger bought hat #4/block ga7 Gold @75 2 games (Gtotal 73) 1shot/1breakfast/buy hat4/message (G46)
Doc Cochran Doc nagerous Gem mafia N3 protect AD/ Gold @ 15 protect diddle (G+5)/buy breakfast/bribe skoffin 4 (to watch Mandy)/total = 20 bribe skoffin 3G (wathc nag)
Sol Star lover/inventor Sierra Leon (kalish) suicide/lover N3 roleblock/ Gold @ 24 1shot/4games/buy map/1breakfast/3G donate to Seth/doc mandy
Trixie lover/roleblocker CrabNebula vig kill N2 no play/ Gold@ 6 roleblock AD (too late)
E.B. Farnum mayor Diddle bought breakfast/ Gold @ 6 bribe doc for 5G/ total now 7
Sophia Metz hider LSU hearst mafia N1 hide lalaland
A. W. Merrick Newspaper man (tracker) Iliad track skoffin/buy pick/Gold @ 4 track koesen/1shot/1breakfast total =5 track mandy/1shot track ET track lovo/1shot
Charlie Utter back-up cop/Jail keeper koesen Gem mafia N2 locked diddle/bought pick/ found 40 Gold/total 41 bought map/hat 2 (investigate f1fth)/last of gold to Doc
Joanie Stubbs Madame (distractor/roleblocker) crabnebula (replaces)Russianfire block lsu (too late) block AD(too late)/1pick/1shot 1shot(35G) bought hat #5/switch kalish for fifth
Whitney Ellsworth Jack of all trades koesen (replaces) lalaland (replaces)willis investigate LSU cop iliad/buy pick/gold coin package to Hickok/Bullock doc Iliad
Calamity Jane Elite bodyguard/back-up doc lalaland hearst mafia N1 protect skoffin
Martha Bullock beloved princess Lord Voldemort Gold @ 12 Gold @ 14
William Bullock bomb (If Seth Bullock is still alive)/beloved Prince (If Seth Bullock is dead) Clive (replces) TWO Gold @ 3 breakfast/ Gold @ 3 1breakfast/1shot breakfast 1breakfast/1shot
Blazanov Telegraph operator (watcher) Skoffin watch crab watch mandy/1shot 1breakfast/1game/watch LSU watch koesen watch crab
Jack Langrishe Actor ExplainThis (replaces)Fircoal Gem Mafia N4 Gold @ 8 Gold @ 9
Reverend Smith Priest Clive lynch day 1
Wild Bill Hickok vigilante LSU (replaces)Dustn64 kill crab/4 games kill serbia(+5G)/buy pan 2shots
George Hearst Hearst mafia Godfather talapus kill lalaland 1 breakfast/4shots/1 pick/4games 1 pick/1map/4shots/1breakfast/4games
Captain Turner Hearst mafia henchman cena (replaces)ga7(replaces Cena) lynch day 3 Gold @ 5 kill kwanton
Francis Wolcott Hearst mafia henchman/Serial Killer (can only kill women) pancake (replaces) JND Gold @ 5 none makes the mandy kill
Cy Tolliver Hearst mafia henchman browng-08 lynch day 2 Gold @ 5
Al Swearengen Gem Saloon mafia Godfather AD hearst mafia N4 recruit ga7/shot + breakfast/ Gold @ 14 1shot/1breakfast/1trick/ total=16
Dan Dority Gem Saloon mafia kwanton hearst mafia N2 buy pan/Gold @ 2
Johnny Burns Gem Saloon mafia F1fth Vig N 5 buy pan/Gold @ 2 kill koesen/1 game makes the Doc kill 3games/kills ET KILL SL
Mr. Wu Gem Saloon mafia/janitor Mandy hearst mafia N3 2 card games/ Gold @ 5 4 games/ 1G doc bribe

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:34 pm

that sure didn't work let me try something else

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:36 pm

Character Name Ability Forum name
Seth Bullock cop/1 kill serbia
Alma Garret bomb (If Seth Bullock is still alive) SL
Doc Cochran Doc nagerous
Sol Star lover/inventor Sierra Leon (kalish)
Trixie lover/roleblocker CrabNebula
E.B. Farnum mayor Diddle
Sophia Metz hider LSU
A. W. Merrick Newspaper man (tracker) Iliad
Charlie Utter back-up cop/Jail keeper koesen
Joanie Stubbs Madame (distractor/roleblocker) crabnebula
Whitney Ellsworth Jack of all trades koesen Calamity Jane Elite bodyguard/back-up doc lalaland
Martha Bullock beloved princess Lord Voldemort
William Bullock bomb (If Seth Bullock is still alive)/beloved Prince (If Seth Bullock is dead) Clive (replces) TWO
Blazanov Telegraph operator (watcher) Skoffin
Jack Langrishe Actor ExplainThis (replaces)Fircoal
Reverend Smith Priest Clive
Wild Bill Hickok vigilante LSU (replaces)Dustn64
George Hearst Hearst mafia Godfather talapus
Captain Turner Hearst mafia henchman cena
Francis Wolcott Hearst mafia henchman/Serial Killer (can only kill women) pancake
Cy Tolliver Hearst mafia henchman browng-08
Al Swearengen Gem Saloon mafia Godfather AD
Dan Dority Gem Saloon mafia kwanton
Johnny Burns Gem Saloon mafia F1fth
Mr. Wu Gem Saloon mafia/janitor Mandy

lalaland · Post by **lalaland** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:39 pm

you could take a screenshot, upload it to imageshak, and put it on that way.

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:45 pm

I swear this looks better in excel
kills:
Night 1 Hearst killed lalaland (LSU died from hiding behind her), AD tried to recruit ga7
Night 2 LSU killed Crab, Hearst killed Kwanton, Gem killed koesen
Night 3 SL suicided from Crab's death, Hearst killed Mandy, Gem killed Nagerous
Night 4 LSU killed Serbia, Hearst killed AD, Gem killed ET
Night 5 LSU killed f1fth for the town win

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:46 pm

lalaland wrote:you could take a screenshot, upload it to imageshak, and put it on that way.

it spans several screen widths, plus i don't know how

did ileave anything out?

CrabNebula · Post by **CrabNebula** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:28 am

How did the items work?

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:47 am

ah items. most were self explanatory, shot, breakfast and the like. I explained the 'trick' in a previous post i think. let's see what else. The gold tools if you found gold netted you a random amount between 1 and your % chance. so a pick would be 1-40 (good old random.org). The available hats were:
Hat 1) Vigilante
Hat 2) Cop
Hat 3) Doc
Hat 4) Role-blocker
Hat 5) Busdriver
Hat 6) Mason recruiter
and almost everyone chose 3&4 (abilities were unknown at time of choosing)
Messages would have been read by Skoffin (but she wouldn't know who sent them)
The Donation wasn't really well thought out as to its purpose but was used to gift gold to other players
The only packages sent were gold coins. I purposely left that one wide open b/c i wanted people to be creative, I wanted players to come up w/ inventive ways to circumvent the system (b/c i like that sort of thing)

Most of the items came as a result of trying to figure out how certain characters could earn Gold, although some had wages. I wanted to reflect the setting of a gold mining camp in the play style and greed is a large part of the show.

did i miss anything else?

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:18 am

I've said it before and your last few posts really reinforced it, well thought out game gimpy; I truly wish I could have played it in its entirety.

Also well played LSU, good work on the game-ending kill.

lord voldemort · Post by **lord voldemort** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:22 am

lol just re-read then.
when will people learn i never lie about my role/
1/16 i was thief.
scum thief but still a thief

gg gimpy very inventive