Buizerd,Scott-Land,jan1976 [retracted]

dandrobie · Post by **dandrobie** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:29 am

These are suspected Secret Alliance

Suspect users: Buizerd,Scott-Land,jan1976

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2056572

Comments: Pls check the game chat. Apparently they arrange for a speed game to eliminate all the rest before continuing the game.

dandrobie

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:11 am

i can only speak for myself-- i have no idea about what transpires between Buiz and Jan... i've never or will i ever have a secret alliance with anyone.

btw-- you're an idiot for putting my name in this thread.

codeblue1018 · Post by **codeblue1018** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:35 am

After reading the chat/game log, I see no evidence of an alliance nor would I expect any of the accused to engage in this type of play.
The only thing you will see is Scott-Land having his everyday-juvenile meltdown as he does in most his games when he is attacked and loses. Nonetheless, this accusation is absurd, however, priceless!

Shabel · Post by **Shabel** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:20 am

codeblue1018 wrote:After reading the chat/game log, I see no evidence of an alliance nor would I expect any of the accused to engage in this type of play.
The only thing you will see is Scott-Land having his everyday-juvenile meltdown as he does in most his games when he is attacked and loses. Nonetheless, this accusation is absurd, however, priceless!

HaHa

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:50 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:After reading the chat/game log, I see no evidence of an alliance nor would I expect any of the accused to engage in this type of play.
The only thing you will see is Scott-Land having his everyday-juvenile meltdown as he does in most his games when he is attacked and loses. Nonetheless, this accusation is absurd, however, priceless!

coming from the guy that doesn't think he deserves his 40 negs--yeah right..... why don't you worry about your own issues -- Code....

codeblue1018 · Post by **codeblue1018** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:54 pm

Thats 35 negs Scott. Thing is, I don't ask people to withdraw them nor do I fill e-tickets to have them removed. Sooner or later your luck will run out and they will start accumulating. Good luck on it.

FYI, not sure where I ever said I didn't deserve them. You act no different than I in game chat. I understand the frustration, I deal with it also. You however, get them removed, I could careless - big difference!

Wwoody123 · Post by **Wwoody123** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:19 pm

Having played speed freestyle a few times this looks like any other game. Dandrobie, because these games are escalating oftentimes players will form temporary alliances and help each other to get cards; they're not out to get you.

KoE_Sirius · Post by **KoE_Sirius** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:28 pm

How can you see a secret alliance from that lmao? :lol:

dandrobie · Post by **dandrobie** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:12 pm

But according to this

Rule #2: No secret alliances
Any form of collusion between opponents must be announced beforehand in the game chat, in English or in a language all players understand. Secret alliances can be hard to prove, but if you suspect one you should leave the players in question negative feedback. If the players have a history of suspected secret alliances consider reporting it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

I believe we are all ok if we're inform before hand, but it's ridiculous that they already have some sort of understand to protect and get rid of the rest before going for each another.

TheTrust · Post by **TheTrust** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:50 pm

dandrobie wrote:But according to this

Rule #2: No secret alliances
Any form of collusion between opponents must be announced beforehand in the game chat, in English or in a language all players understand. Secret alliances can be hard to prove, but if you suspect one you should leave the players in question negative feedback. If the players have a history of suspected secret alliances consider reporting it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

I believe we are all ok if we're inform before hand, but it's ridiculous that they already have some sort of understand to protect and get rid of the rest before going for each another.

I think your blowing something out of proportion hun, they showed in no game any intention of defending each other against people...

The games are esc cards... so it would make sense that if your targeting someone for their cards, you make it hard for someone else to get to them. I am new to the game type but common sense is common sense and in every game I've played with the above players, each one has played extremely well with the conditions delt to them. They dont go into games with alliances, they most certainly do not have the intention of protecting each other and each player is always trying to win the game.

Taking 1s for cards is done by everyone I think. I see no proof that these players have done anything other than use experience and common sense, likewise, any combination of the other 2 players you mention will use "common sense moves" to feed off of the move of the first player. They arent chatting behind backs, they arent going into the game saying: "I'm going to spend the next hour of my life giving this game to playerX" There are common understandings when you go into games and set things up based on position.

if you have something solid to present please do, I'd love to see it but if not then maybe we should end this here? :-k

xxtig12683xx · Post by **xxtig12683xx** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:08 pm

i didnt even look, but my last exp. i attacked scott and he told me it was a bad move and would no longer play in my games.....funny i won the game.

i thought scott was better than that.

-tig

Buizerd · Post by **Buizerd** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:55 am

secret alliance i play always to win the game secret alliance my ass

oggiss · Post by **oggiss** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:35 am

Buizerd wrote:secret alliance i play always to win the game secret alliance my ass

You're english are very good :shock:

RiskTycoon · Post by **RiskTycoon** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:34 am

Buizerd wrote:secret alliance? i play always to win the game! secret alliance my ass....

better ?

TheBro · Post by **TheBro** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:44 am

You guys shouldn't be giving him a hard time about his English. That is just horrible, obviously English isn't his native tongue...

oggiss · Post by **oggiss** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:46 am

TheBro wrote:You guys shouldn't be giving him a hard time about his English. That is just horrible, obviously English isn't his native tongue...

ye, you're right.

Sorry Buizerd.

RiskTycoon · Post by **RiskTycoon** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:49 am

it wasn't his English ! he was just missing a few key punctuation marks ... i was just filling them in for oggis ! :lol:

KoE_Sirius · Post by **KoE_Sirius** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:11 am

oggiss wrote:
Buizerd wrote:secret alliance i play always to win the game secret alliance my ass

You're english are very good

Yeah he is like the Local English Teacher from Sweden :lol:

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:18 am

I've had this problem with scott-land before when he plays with prankcall... they set the game up deliberately so neither attack each other and take out everyone else first leaving it to a battle between the "big guys"

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1502503

2008-01-01 17:14:19 - Scott-Land: pranks gonna suicide on you guys or we can play for another 5 hours
2008-01-01 17:14:43 - deguu: why wont he suicide on u ?
2008-01-01 17:14:46 - Scott-Land: make sure you take ontario -- lol
2008-01-01 17:15:02 - Scott-Land: because i sucided for him last time when this same thing happened

roadwarrior · Post by **roadwarrior** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:45 am

well Scott, judging from the complaints about you, there are reasonable grounds to believe that you are a cheat. Why am I not surprised?

codeblue1018 · Post by **codeblue1018** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:48 am

Scott may be a complete tool but a cheat? Not a chance in hell!

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:08 am

i dont know!!! there's different forms of cheating and this new evidence that has been brought forward is damning! another krusher!!!

codeblue1018 · Post by **codeblue1018** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:22 am

hulmey wrote:i dont know!!! there's different forms of cheating and this new evidence that has been brought forward is damning! another krusher!!!

Krusher?, LOL, no way! I don't play games with Scott anymore because we just "clash" in our styles and he "bitches" way too much. Scott doesn't need help to win a game. He plays 8 person games and has a win % probably around 40%. If he had pals helping, I would expect a better win ratio. I believe he just came off a 10 game or so losing streak. This alone proves that "cheating" doesn't happen and if it is, he is a terrible cheater. A Krusher?, never!

Scott-Land · Post by **Scott-Land** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:08 pm

disliking someone isn't a valid reason to post and say that they're a cheat- but i know that there are gonna be players that do that for an example road, a player that has been proven a cheat, but thats ok, take this opportunity to be vindictive. i don't expect anything less from those types of people.

nothing i can say will change anyone's opinion of me- so i wont say anything except it's ridiculous- an idiotic and utterly false accusation. those of you who think i've cheated will remain to think that. for the rest of you that know im a damn great player and how much i hate cheaters... well that's all that matters. ive accomplished almost everything i set out to.... outside of being short a few points of hitting 4K.

take this chance to post how much of an asshole and cheater i am-- and i hope it makes you feel better about your inadequacies.

madmort0 · Post by **madmort0** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:21 pm

scott is a complete tool.lol

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