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[Clive]

gimpy had no problem letting Kalish replace into ET's role, should we allow it, despite Kalish's knowledge of Serbia's role. Therefore Serbia is innocent.

[ExplainThis]

One more mafia down...that's always nice. Anyway, based on what we know I have two people at the top of my list for suspects. First off, based on yesterdays logic that if cena turned out scum based on the browng voting and unvoting him thing, then we really need to look at Serbia for the same thing. He may infact be one more member of mafia that we can lynch today.

Also, based on a post elsewhere in the forums, Explain this is also at the top of my list because of a post by mandy. Granted, it's a little less to go on compared Serbs, but important enough I think we shouldn't ignore it. Besides that though, there is no one else at the moment who I really think is mafia. Also, a whole lot hasn't been said yet today to make me look at other people yet.

So, for now I'd like to FOS Serbia and Explainthis and see where the discussion leads. Thougths?

Quote it for me?

[F1fth]

gimpy had no problem letting Kalish replace into ET's role, should we allow it, despite Kalish's knowledge of Serbia's role. Therefore Serbia is innocent.

What's all this then? May I ask you to re-explain this bit for me?

[Serbia]

gimpy had no problem letting Kalish replace into ET's role, should we allow it, despite Kalish's knowledge of Serbia's role. Therefore Serbia is innocent.

I'm curious on this one too...?

I happen to be innocent of course, but still is interesting logic. Also, for the record, I became suspicious of Mandy once the Cena came up Hearst mafia... just seemed too neat and tidy that Mandy would come up with two scum kills from the same mafia. Not sure it really does me any good to say it now, but it fit with how Mandy plays.

Yesterday's lynch hardly does us any good for looking at the voting record. If anything, it's kind of genius on Cena's part, it protects all his scum buddies by allowing everyone to vote for him. Might be worth going back and checking browng's lynch record, though any stragglers are likely to be only Hearst, and not Gem, mafia.

[Iliad]

If you think town will benefit from you claim, then claim. If not, don't I guess it depends on how much information you want to share before you die.

Okay here goes:
I am a tracker. I tracked Skoffin to crab night one. I tracked crab night 2. He didn't go anywhere. And this night I tracked mandy. So he did go to "someone" and so one kill was blocked.

[CrabNebula]

If you think town will benefit from you claim, then claim. If not, don't I guess it depends on how much information you want to share before you die.

Okay here goes:
I am a tracker. I tracked Skoffin to crab night one. I tracked crab night 2. He didn't go anywhere. And this night I tracked mandy. So he did go to "someone" and so one kill was blocked.

On night 2 did you track me in previous role or russianfire (me in the new role)?

Also Mandy was Janitor who cleans up the bodies which means identity of the dead person is not revealed. No kill is blocked.

[Iliad]

If you think town will benefit from you claim, then claim. If not, don't I guess it depends on how much information you want to share before you die.

Okay here goes:
I am a tracker. I tracked Skoffin to crab night one. I tracked crab night 2. He didn't go anywhere. And this night I tracked mandy. So he did go to "someone" and so one kill was blocked.

On night 2 did you track me in previous role or russianfire (me in the new role)?

Also Mandy was Janitor who cleans up the bodies which means identity of the dead person is not revealed. No kill is blocked.

in your old role.

Yeah. And he would be trying to clean up that body ONLY if the mafia were trying to kill that person.

[CrabNebula]

Did that person die then?

[Iliad]

No. so a kill was blocked.

And we have what 4 killing roles so?

2 mafias, sk, vig?

[CrabNebula]

Can someone tell me if 2 shot .22 pistol is regarded as a revolver? It is quite important.

[Koesen]

No. so a kill was blocked.

And we have what 4 killing roles so?

2 mafias, sk, vig?

Interesting, but I'm not convinced any kill was blocked. So far, it seems we have two scum killers and a vig, and I see no reason in the day scenes to believe that there are more.

[CrabNebula]

No. so a kill was blocked.

And we have what 4 killing roles so?

2 mafias, sk, vig?

Interesting, but I'm not convinced any kill was blocked. So far, it seems we have two scum killers and a vig, and I see no reason in the day scenes to believe that there are more.

Two scum + SK + vig (maybe), SK because of stab parts in the day scenes.

Now someone answer this,

Can someone tell me if 2 shot .22 pistol is regarded as a revolver? It is quite important.

[Anarkistsdream]

First, I oppose the mass claim bit. That is best left closer to the end and I don't think we're quite there yet. That and I don't want the doc outted

Last night someone bribed me to watch Mandy, I took it and nothing happened. Also with that gained gold I intend to play a game with some of you cocksuckers. Anyway, no one targeted Mando.

Mandalorian, does this sound right to you, you Croatian cunt?

Sorry, you all keep cussing!

Not entirely with it today, are we?

Oh, I thought you meant THIS day.

That was yesterday!

[Anarkistsdream]

No. so a kill was blocked.

And we have what 4 killing roles so?

2 mafias, sk, vig?

Interesting, but I'm not convinced any kill was blocked. So far, it seems we have two scum killers and a vig, and I see no reason in the day scenes to believe that there are more.

Two scum + SK + vig (maybe), SK because of stab parts in the day scenes.

Now someone answer this,

Can someone tell me if 2 shot .22 pistol is regarded as a revolver? It is quite important.

Yes, it would be a revolver.

[diddle]

No. so a kill was blocked.

And we have what 4 killing roles so?

2 mafias, sk, vig?

Interesting, but I'm not convinced any kill was blocked. So far, it seems we have two scum killers and a vig, and I see no reason in the day scenes to believe that there are more.

Two scum + SK + vig (maybe), SK because of stab parts in the day scenes.

Now someone answer this,

Can someone tell me if 2 shot .22 pistol is regarded as a revolver? It is quite important.

Yes, it would be a revolver.

Well then crab, where are you taking us with this.....

[CrabNebula]

lalaland - Calamity Jane (elite bodyguard/back-up doc) was stabbed through the left kidney. <-- SK kill most probably
LSU - Sophia Metz (hider) had her throat cut in a crimson smile. <-- doesn't mention how he died which means he died because of hiding behind lalaland

2/3 less kills here depending whether there is a vig or not.

Koesen – Charlie Utter (back-up cop/Jail keeper) died from a shotgun <-- first mafia kill
Kwanton – Dan Dority (Gem Saloon mafia) was stabbed from behind <-- SK Kill
CrabNebula – Trixie (roleblocker/?) was executed w/ a revolver <-- this is why I wanted to know whether 2 shot .22 was a revolver. Sierra most probably did this since when he died, he that gun with him.

This means one of the mafia didn't get a kill.

Sierra Leon (Inventor/Lover) Sol Star is dead. <-- shot himself which is clear in the scene
Nagerous (Doc) Doc Cochran is dead. <-- shotgun mafia
Mandalorian2298 (Gem saloon mafia janitor) is dead.
<-- SK kill again

The same mafia again didn't get a kill.

I hope this helps...

[lord voldemort]

it helps...doesnt heaps give us a clue on wat to do just in that we know who is targetting who. i kinda expected gimpy to leave clues throughout the game....i mite read through the scenes a bit detailed...see if anything can be picked up

[kalishnikov]

cocksuckers....

[Koesen]

lalaland - Calamity Jane (elite bodyguard/back-up doc) was stabbed through the left kidney. <-- SK kill most probably
LSU - Sophia Metz (hider) had her throat cut in a crimson smile. <-- doesn't mention how he died which means he died because of hiding behind lalaland

2/3 less kills here depending whether there is a vig or not.

Koesen – Charlie Utter (back-up cop/Jail keeper) died from a shotgun <-- first mafia kill
Kwanton – Dan Dority (Gem Saloon mafia) was stabbed from behind <-- SK Kill
CrabNebula – Trixie (roleblocker/?) was executed w/ a revolver <-- this is why I wanted to know whether 2 shot .22 was a revolver. Sierra most probably did this since when he died, he that gun with him.

This means one of the mafia didn't get a kill.

Sierra Leon (Inventor/Lover) Sol Star is dead. <-- shot himself which is clear in the scene
Nagerous (Doc) Doc Cochran is dead. <-- shotgun mafia
Mandalorian2298 (Gem saloon mafia janitor) is dead.
<-- SK kill again

The same mafia again didn't get a kill.

I hope this helps...

Alternative explanation of the same facts:

Night one:
* Mafia A kills Lalaland, LSU dies with her because he hid there.
* Mafia B fails to kill for any of the usual reasons.

Night two:
* Mafia A kills Kwanton
* Mafia B kills Koesen 1.0
* Vig (LSU 2.0) kills Crab, which I'm pretty sure he already confessed to.

Night three:
* Sierra dies from a broken heart
* Mandalorian is killed by Mafia A
* Nagerous is killed by Mafia B (Gem Saloon)

It makes sense that nagerous was targeted by Mandalorian's mafia, because his townieness would have gone a long way to clearing Mandy, had he not died as well.

No need for an SK, nor any ground to believe town was lucky enough to escape one or more kills every night. On the contrary, I think there are only two killing groups, both of which have been identified already, and town has been quite unlucky to lose a hider, a lover and an innocent vig's victim on top of the mafia kills.

Frankly, this seems a lot more likely to me.

[CrabNebula]

Except for the fact that there was a kill less last night since Sierra killed himself. LSU of course said he didn't target anyone and thus that might be the reason but going by Iliads statements, since the person Gem Saloon targeted didn't die, they didn't get a kill. And we can agree on the assumption that whoever killed nagerous also killed Koesen 1.0 which means Koesen 1.0 wasn't killed by Gem Saloon. So they didn't get a kill that night either.

Also Iliad it would be quite better if you can tell us your character name.

And Skoffin, who did you watch last night?

[Koesen]

I'm still not convinced that any kill failed last night.

All we have is that Mandy visited 'someone'. How does that mean a kill failed? I understand that all information was there with the bodies, but who says Mandy was trying to clean anything up? There are 'tricks' in this game, allowing you to visit someone at night. It's quite possible that's what Mandy was doing. Or maybe he bought a new hat and used that on someone.

I can't prove it, of course, but I still prefer the two mafia, no SK analysis.

[F1fth]

I'm also a little confused, Crab. Koesen's evaluation of the NKs seemed to make sense to me, and I'm confused as how you can be so certain that there is an SK in this game.

[ExplainThis]

One more mafia down...that's always nice. Anyway, based on what we know I have two people at the top of my list for suspects. First off, based on yesterdays logic that if cena turned out scum based on the browng voting and unvoting him thing, then we really need to look at Serbia for the same thing. He may infact be one more member of mafia that we can lynch today.

Also, based on a post elsewhere in the forums, Explain this is also at the top of my list because of a post by mandy. Granted, it's a little less to go on compared Serbs, but important enough I think we shouldn't ignore it. Besides that though, there is no one else at the moment who I really think is mafia. Also, a whole lot hasn't been said yet today to make me look at other people yet.

So, for now I'd like to FOS Serbia and Explainthis and see where the discussion leads. Thougths?

Quote it for me?

[Serbia]

And why exactly am I connected to Cena at all?

[ExplainThis]

And why exactly am I connected to Cena at all?

telapus pointed out that the same strange type of voting browning used on cena was used on you as well. Its a minor connection at best.