How would you describe your political alleigance?

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:19 pm

Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal

Look up the meaning of national-liberal.

Would you class Nazi's (national socialists) as socialists?

Napoleon Ier · Post by **Napoleon Ier** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:36 pm

Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal

I am a liberal, but the term has been hijacked, as Milton Friedman notes, as an ultimate compliment to its professors, by its very opponents.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:48 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal

I am a liberal, but the term has been hijacked, as Milton Friedman notes, as an ultimate compliment to its professors, by its very opponents.

All terms are hijacked over time - that's their evolving definition.

Napoleon Ier · Post by **Napoleon Ier** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:51 pm

unriggable wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal

I am a liberal, but the term has been hijacked, as Milton Friedman notes, as an ultimate compliment to its professors, by its very opponents.

All terms are hijacked over time - that's their evolving definition.

Maybe. But in France I am accused of ultra-liberalism, ths being synonymous with capitalism. And it is the true sense of the word.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:55 pm

I do not think that "fiscal" and "non-fiscal" terms should be clouded.

I understand what you mean nappy, a free-market is the right to choose how you spend and earn, the liberal "right to choose" type mentality, but I just disagree how these terms are not used correctly...

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:57 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal

I am a liberal, but the term has been hijacked, as Milton Friedman notes, as an ultimate compliment to its professors, by its very opponents.

All terms are hijacked over time - that's their evolving definition.

Maybe. But in France I am accused of ultra-liberalism, ths being synonymous with capitalism. And it is the true sense of the word.

Maybe for you, then again in non-american states the capitalists are the color blue and the socialists are red, instead of here where the democrats are blue and republicans are red.

Napoleon Ier · Post by **Napoleon Ier** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:24 pm

Norse wrote:I do not think that "fiscal" and "non-fiscal" terms should be clouded.

I understand what you mean nappy, a free-market is the right to choose how you spend and earn, the liberal "right to choose" type mentality, but I just disagree how these terms are not used correctly...

Vast subject! Again, one refers oneself to Milton Friedman (PBUH) who proves the link between economic and political freedom.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:04 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
Norse wrote:I do not think that "fiscal" and "non-fiscal" terms should be clouded.

I understand what you mean nappy, a free-market is the right to choose how you spend and earn, the liberal "right to choose" type mentality, but I just disagree how these terms are not used correctly...

Vast subject! Again, one refers oneself to Milton Friedman (PBUH) who proves the link between economic and political freedom.

Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:28 pm

unriggable wrote:
Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!

Yes, with which I can only assume, with your paricularly daft opinions, means you will not be free, on account of everytime you open your mouth, you will have fists closing it for it you again, charged on your health premiums, hospitalised.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:59 am

Norse wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!

Yes, with which I can only assume, with your paricularly daft opinions, means you will not be free, on account of everytime you open your mouth, you will have fists closing it for it you again, charged on your health premiums, hospitalised.

Nice comeback.

"The consumer is the worker."
"I will punch you in the face."

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:08 am

unriggable wrote:
Norse wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!

Yes, with which I can only assume, with your paricularly daft opinions, means you will not be free, on account of everytime you open your mouth, you will have fists closing it for it you again, charged on your health premiums, hospitalised.

Nice comeback.

"The consumer is the worker."
"I will punch you in the face."

I think the relationship between these two statements is quite obvious.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:12 am

unriggable wrote:
Norse wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!

Yes, with which I can only assume, with your paricularly daft opinions, means you will not be free, on account of everytime you open your mouth, you will have fists closing it for it you again, charged on your health premiums, hospitalised.

Nice comeback.

"The consumer is the worker."
"I will punch you in the face."

Yes.

Both approaches seem to work.
If USA had a national Health service, you fuckers would have been a bankrupted nation long ago....and the same is turning true for us Brits...I Hate the NHS...incompetence is promoted, and wastage is predominant..I know this after being in hospitals for a prevuious job...servicing CT scanners/MRI Scanners and x-ray machines...they had clumps of work-shy nurses, chatting away idlely, power-hungry radiologists, looking for reasons to feel superior, and radiologists, who were ok, and did all the fooking work.

NHS = Death.

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:43 am

I believe anything Norse believes.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:54 am

Skoffin wrote: I believe anything Norse believes.

Hehe...I'm actually blushing..

Please just dress up in leather, and be dominant

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:01 am

Skoffin wrote: I believe anything Norse believes.

I think I may have to knock you out on thursday.

CoffeeCream · Post by **CoffeeCream** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:21 am

Bill Richardson is out of the race so I'm not politically allied with anyone or any party. I guess I'll be a Hecterist.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:34 am

We have a disturbuing number of Hecterists here.

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:40 am

Norse wrote:
Skoffin wrote: I believe anything Norse believes.

Hehe...I'm actually blushing..

Please just dress up in leather, and be dominant

I guess you're not aware of my style. Flatter them and build them up, then when they least expect it bring out the whips and tear 'em down.

Skittles! wrote:
Skoffin wrote: I believe anything Norse believes.

I think I may have to knock you out on thursday.

Reed.. 'Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer'.. work with me here.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:44 am

Skoffin wrote:
Reed.. 'Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer'.. work with me here.

As long as there is sex involved.

hecter · Post by **hecter** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:20 am

Hecterism is winning... Sweet

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:24 am

I actually put myself down as a "classical conservative"...i'm suprised how many libertarians there are.

satanspaladin · Post by **satanspaladin** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:34 am

well do you really need me to tell you what my leanings are! :lol:

Semigall · Post by **Semigall** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:44 am

I chose "national socialist", because i'm a member of rightist party and i also cooperate with few neo-national-socialist organizations.

Jesse710 · Post by **Jesse710** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:11 am

GREEN WOOT! WOOT!

suggs · Post by **suggs** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:15 am

Semigall wrote:I chose "national socialist", because i'm a member of rightist party and i also cooperate with few neo-national-socialist organizations.

Please try not to breathe.

How would you describe your political alleigance?

Political leanings?