The TOP 12 Players under 40

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:06 am

Lets make this under 35%

Dangerous-Die · Post by **Dangerous-Die** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:25 am

can we have a list of those that play for the pure fun of it - -not caring to much about points, or win ratio - - - just having fun and hopefully lots of nice feedback
!!

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:03 am

Uberwald wrote:Aawww no updates lately?

lol... hey, there you are, you're back on the list!

UPDATED 11/15/07

3 comic boy 3532 942 365 (39%)
7 maniacmath17 3203 1018 331 (33%)
14 austex 3086 462 165 (36%)
16 Scott-Land 3009 1137 369 (32%)
20 NUKE 2826 658 180 (27%)

26 Point Guard 2776 205 59 (29%)
42 hermanitor 2624 487 188 (39%)
46 Uberwald 2618 620 233 (38%)
54 Robinette 2600 339 113 (33%)
56 Naato 2586 383 132 (34%)

68 DP07 2536 301 112 (37%)
72 subprime 2522 245 93 (38%)

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:12 am

Dangerous-Die wrote:can we have a list of those that play for the pure fun of it - -not caring to much about points, or win ratio - - - just having fun and hopefully lots of nice feedback
!!

Lackattack
Twill

They don't play for points... well at least they don't seem to...

C.

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:14 am

autoload wrote:Lets make this under 35%

7 maniacmath17 3203 1018 331 (33%)
16 Scott-Land 3009 1137 369 (32%)
20 NUKE 2826 658 180 (27%)
26 Point Guard 2776 205 59 (29%)
54 Robinette 2600 339 113 (33%)

56 Naato 2586 383 132 (34%)
77 alexad99 2497 153 44 (29%)
87 Matt2006 2437 912 312 (34%)
88 ZawBanjito 2437 487 152 (31%)
91 rabbiton 2421 363 110 (30%)

96 cyberdaniel 2413 731 199 (27%)
100 yljester 2407 142 46 (32%)

billy07 · Post by **billy07** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:11 pm

take points from singles only and that list would change quite a bit.

comic boy · Post by **comic boy** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:17 pm

Dangerous-Die wrote:can we have a list of those that play for the pure fun of it - -not caring to much about points, or win ratio - - - just having fun and hopefully lots of nice feedback
!!

Nobody is stopping you compiling such a list

comic boy · Post by **comic boy** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:22 pm

billy07 wrote:take points from singles only and that list would change quite a bit.

Actually it wouldnt change much - the under 40% ratio means that all on the list play a majority of singles. Its a shame that people like Robinette and Blitz put a lot of time into updating these lists and all they seem to get is criticism.

Dangerous-Die · Post by **Dangerous-Die** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:31 pm

comic boy wrote:
Dangerous-Die wrote:can we have a list of those that play for the pure fun of it - -not caring to much about points, or win ratio - - - just having fun and hopefully lots of nice feedback
!!

Nobody is stopping you compiling such a list

)))

yea there is

i play for fun and cant be assed to spend hours doing such things -p

billy07 · Post by **billy07** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:53 pm

comic boy wrote:
billy07 wrote:take points from singles only and that list would change quite a bit.

Actually it wouldnt change much - the under 40% ratio means that all on the list play a majority of singles. Its a shame that people like Robinette and Blitz put a lot of time into updating these lists and all they seem to get is criticism.

not criticizing but in a singles list it should be singles games points only

comic boy · Post by **comic boy** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:22 pm

billy07 wrote:
comic boy wrote:
billy07 wrote:take points from singles only and that list would change quite a bit.

Actually it wouldnt change much - the under 40% ratio means that all on the list play a majority of singles. Its a shame that people like Robinette and Blitz put a lot of time into updating these lists and all they seem to get is criticism.
not criticizing but in a singles list it should be singles games points only

Yep but unless the site introduces a new points tracking system its impossible to calculate - the under 40% is about as good a guide as we will get.

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:56 am

Robinette wrote:
autoload wrote:Lets make this under 35%

7 maniacmath17 3203 1018 331 (33%)
16 Scott-Land 3009 1137 369 (32%)
20 NUKE 2826 658 180 (27%)
26 Point Guard 2776 205 59 (29%)
54 Robinette 2600 339 113 (33%)

56 Naato 2586 383 132 (34%)
77 alexad99 2497 153 44 (29%)
87 Matt2006 2437 912 312 (34%)
88 ZawBanjito 2437 487 152 (31%)
91 rabbiton 2421 363 110 (30%)

96 cyberdaniel 2413 731 199 (27%)
100 yljester 2407 142 46 (32%)

Yaaay!

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:42 pm

UPDATED 11/24/07

UPDATED --- Top 12 under 40%

3 comic boy 3508 967 373 (39%)
7 maniacmath17 3203 1018 331 (33%)
10 Scott-Land 3179 1159 384 (33%)
12 NUKE 3151 702 204 (29%)
16 austex 3024 476 169 (36%)

36 Point Guard 2710 208 59 (28%)
38 Uberwald 2699 634 237 (37%)
43 Naato 2679 394 137 (35%)
44 hermanitor 2678 500 192 (38%)
48 subprime 2626 251 95 (38%)

54 JBoy 2589 275 85 (31%)
56 Robinette 2583 340 113 (33%)

UPDATED --- Top 12 under 35%

7 maniacmath17 3203 1018 331 (33%)
10 Scott-Land 3179 1159 384 (33%)
12 NUKE 3151 702 204 (29%)
36 Point Guard 2710 208 59 (28%)
54 JBoy 2589 275 85 (31%)

56 Robinette 2583 340 113 (33%)
68 alexad99 2537 161 47 (29%)
73 yljester 2498 146 48 (33%)
87 cyberdaniel 2413 731 199 (27%)
91 KLOBBER 2404 605 198 (33%)

93 rabbiton 2399 369 111 (30%)
98 ZawBanjito 2386 489 152 (31%)

UPDATED --- Top Players under 30%

12 NUKE 3151 702 204 (29%)
36 Point Guard 2710 208 59 (28%)
68 alexad99 2537 161 47 (29%)
87 cyberdaniel 2413 731 199 (27%)
106 RL_Orange 2359 2168 606 (28%)

181 uclap 2223 177 51 (29%)
227 Lector 2144 157 46 (29%)
245 jwrules547 2117 380 87 (23%)
And that's all the under 30 on the 1st page...

THORNHEART · Post by **THORNHEART** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:45 pm

lol hulmey is right on

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:46 pm

UPDATED 12/15/07

UPDATED --- Top 12 under 40%

5 comic boy 3203 1047 397 (38%)
8 maniacmath17 3179 1019 331 (32%)
14 Scott-Land 2933 1285 438 (34%)
19 austex 2888 494 173 (35%)
21 subprime 2873 277 104 (38%)

24 Uberwald 2778 675 248 (37%)
27 NUKE 2754 792 237 (30%)
32 hermanitor 2703 538 208 (39%)
34 KLOBBER 2695 667 230 (34%)
39 Naato 2679 421 145 (34%)

47 yljester 2635 159 53 (33%)
49 DP07 2622 314 118 (38%)
in all, there are 54 players in the top 250 with under 40%
and i am #16 on this list... damn it!

UPDATED --- Top 12 under 35%

8 maniacmath17 3179 1019 331 (32%)
14 Scott-Land 2933 1285 438 (34%)
27 NUKE 2754 792 237 (30%)
34 KLOBBER 2695 667 230 (34%)
39 Naato 2679 421 145 (34%)

47 yljester 2635 159 53 (33%)
50 Point Guard 2622 224 63 (28%)
58 rabbiton 2557 390 117 (30%)
70 Robinette 2499 348 114 (33%)
82 jwrules547 2448 439 103 (23%)

88 Freebyrd1977 2426 623 165 (26%)
103 alexad99 2385 180 52 (29%)
in all, there are 23 players in the top 250 with under 35%

UPDATED --- Top Players under 30%

50 Point Guard 2622 224 63 (28%)
82 jwrules547 2448 439 103 (23%)
88 Freebyrd1977 2426 623 165 (26%)
103 alexad99 2385 180 52 (29%)
120 RL_Orange 2343 2339 662 (28%)

242 JBoy 2160 343 99 (29%)
244 uclap 2152 181 51 (28%)
in all, only these 7 players in the top 250 are under 30%

Point Guard · Post by **Point Guard** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:11 pm

I don't get to be in the under 40 category?

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:23 pm

Point Guard wrote:I don't get to be in the under 40 category?

Ha! nope.... you are #13 on the list...
But you're ahead of ME!

Point Guard · Post by **Point Guard** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:56 pm

Robinette wrote:
Point Guard wrote:I don't get to be in the under 40 category?

Ha! nope.... you are #13 on the list...
But you're ahead of ME!

No, I am number 12 on that list. I have seniority over that guy with the same score as me

.

cdnfireman · Post by **cdnfireman** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:32 am

Scratches his head trying to figure out these stat posts. Wonders to himself if he should be listed? Score of 1417 62 completed with 16(26%) won.
Naw instead of trying to figure it out I'm going back to play my games.

cdnfireman · Post by **cdnfireman** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:36 am

woops I made a mistake reading the other players scores, I got some catching up to do, Sorry.

cdnfireman · Post by **cdnfireman** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:37 am

My dyslexia gets the better of me sometimes.

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:52 pm

UPDATED 1/6/08

UPDATED --- Top 12 under 40%

9 maniacmath17 3152 1020 331 (32%)
16 comic boy 3017 1091 409 (37%)
28 MikeZoo 2865 1572 585 (37%)
36 rabbiton 2774 395 120 (30%)
38 Uberwald 2737 702 255 (36%)

41 Scott-Land 2736 1627 539 (33%)
43 subprime 2714 290 106 (37%)
54 hermanitor 2646 550 211 (38%)
59 Riazor 2625 181 69 (38%)
62 NUKE 2614 847 256 (30%)

66 Naato 2605 450 152 (34%)
75 MeDeFe 2580 207 81 (39%)

in all, there are now 52 players in the top 250 with under 40%
and i am #26 on this list... damn it!

UPDATED --- Top 12 under 35%

9 maniacmath17 3152 1020 331 (32%)
36 rabbiton 2774 395 120 (30%)
41 Scott-Land 2736 1627 539 (33%)
62 NUKE 2614 847 256 (30%)
66 Naato 2605 450 152 (34%)

81 Point Guard 2562 227 63 (28%)
83 a2zsteve 2551 1735 529 (30%)
96 billy07 2472 180 57 (32%)
106 alexad99 2434 194 57 (29%)
110 jwrules547 2420 496 120 (24%)

112 4red 2413 468 145 (31%)
118 igotaished 2388 937 305 (33%)

in all, there are now 26 players in the top 250 with under 35%
and i am #13 on this list, by just 6 points... double damn!

UPDATED --- Top Players under 30%

81 Point Guard 2562 227 63 (28%)
106 alexad99 2434 194 57 (29%)
110 jwrules547 2420 496 120 (24%)
128 nesterdude 2365 1681 457 (27%)

in all, only these 4 players in the top 250 are under 30%

Blitzaholic · Post by **Blitzaholic** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:37 pm

Robinette wrote:UPDATED 1/6/08

UPDATED --- Top 12 under 40%

9 maniacmath17 3152 1020 331 (32%)
16 comic boy 3017 1091 409 (37%)
28 MikeZoo 2865 1572 585 (37%)
36 rabbiton 2774 395 120 (30%)
38 Uberwald 2737 702 255 (36%)

41 Scott-Land 2736 1627 539 (33%)
43 subprime 2714 290 106 (37%)
54 hermanitor 2646 550 211 (38%)
59 Riazor 2625 181 69 (38%)
62 NUKE 2614 847 256 (30%)

66 Naato 2605 450 152 (34%)
75 MeDeFe 2580 207 81 (39%)

in all, there are now 52 players in the top 250 with under 40%
and i am #26 on this list... damn it!

UPDATED --- Top 12 under 35%

9 maniacmath17 3152 1020 331 (32%)
36 rabbiton 2774 395 120 (30%)
41 Scott-Land 2736 1627 539 (33%)
62 NUKE 2614 847 256 (30%)
66 Naato 2605 450 152 (34%)

81 Point Guard 2562 227 63 (28%)
83 a2zsteve 2551 1735 529 (30%)
96 billy07 2472 180 57 (32%)
106 alexad99 2434 194 57 (29%)
110 jwrules547 2420 496 120 (24%)

112 4red 2413 468 145 (31%)
118 igotaished 2388 937 305 (33%)

in all, there are now 26 players in the top 250 with under 35%
and i am #13 on this list, by just 6 points... double damn!

UPDATED --- Top Players under 30%

81 Point Guard 2562 227 63 (28%)
106 alexad99 2434 194 57 (29%)
110 jwrules547 2420 496 120 (24%)
128 nesterdude 2365 1681 457 (27%)

in all, only these 4 players in the top 250 are under 30%

are you going to do and under 25% too? :roll:

do i hear 20%? going once, twice?

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:59 pm

again i'm gonna question the usefulness of such tops based on win percentage.

in blitz's top5 we have top 5 team players and those are chosen besed on the fact that they have over 70% wins. it's absurd. if i play nothing but 1v1 games vs new recruits i'm gonna have a high percentage without playing a single team game.

same deal here. what's up with the 40%, 30%??
does that mean people with low% are singles players?

again a person that plays nothing but 1v1 will certainly have more than those percentages yet he won't enter the top because the criteria chosen here is absurd.

i agree determining good singles or doubles players is pretty hard if not impossible until lack decides to put separate tables but until then i'd say you should either do some real research or stop doing these tops. they are useless.

best example jr24. over 1400 points gained in 1v1 freestyle games with a win%of ~ 90 is considered one of the best team players (i don't doubt he is a very good team player) but his score is greatly boosted by singles games and same goes for his win%.

if i start tomorrow and play 1v1 games and get a score high enough will i enter the top team players despite having very few team games??

Blitzaholic · Post by **Blitzaholic** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:29 pm

DiM wrote:again i'm gonna question the usefulness of such tops based on win percentage.

in blitz's top5 we have top 5 team players and those are chosen besed on the fact that they have over 70% wins. it's absurd. if i play nothing but 1v1 games vs new recruits i'm gonna have a high percentage without playing a single team game.

same deal here. what's up with the 40%, 30%??
does that mean people with low% are singles players?

again a person that plays nothing but 1v1 will certainly have more than those percentages yet he won't enter the top because the criteria chosen here is absurd.

i agree determining good singles or doubles players is pretty hard if not impossible until lack decides to put separate tables but until then i'd say you should either do some real research or stop doing these tops. they are useless.

best example jr24. over 1400 points gained in 1v1 freestyle games with a win%of ~ 90 is considered one of the best team players (i don't doubt he is a very good team player) but his score is greatly boosted by singles games and same goes for his win%.

if i start tomorrow and play 1v1 games and get a score high enough will i enter the top team players despite having very few team games??

well, hmmm, you got a point here DiM, however, a vast majority had those winning rates way before 1 on 1's were even added to this site, with the exception probably of jr, you may be right there, cause his winning percentage was under 70% 4 to 5 months ago ( i think he had 64 to 67%) he played a monster number of games 1 on 1 and brought that up a point here and there was boosted over time, i saw it slowly creep up too, but he also played a monster number of team games too, so hard to tell, he has over 6000 games, lol

but for the most part it works, with some exceptions, but i guess there is exception to most things.