Netherlands [Quenched]

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:09 am

Lone.prophet wrote:The colors are chosen with a reason, and if people can read blue armies on the classic map they can read this.

you just dont listen do you?

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:13 am

am i the only one that thinks of the honeycomb map as i read the last couple of pages ?

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:14 am

For the love. lone, just gray the darn circles so we can play this. That would solve all the visibility problems right?

pepperonibread · Post by **pepperonibread** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:14 am

Lone.prophet wrote:The colors are chosen with a reason, and if people can read blue armies on the classic map they can read this.

But that's one of the main problems with the classic map. It's even why some people have called for a revamp. Here, you can see where I posted the classic map as my own map as a joke. Even though it wasn't serious, one of the first things people asked for was for brighter colors, especially in Europe. And you don't even need to change the colors. Just make the circles less transparent.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:16 am

And dont forget the concern about the legends numbers.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:17 am

I like the legend numbers, they just need to be a little brighter. (Just the number part, not the whole circle they are in)

I can tell that after 76 pages you are very burnt out on this. You could maybe get someone to quickly do these changes for you?

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:24 am

Now noboady can whine anymore

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:49 am

thanks that should solve the issue

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:51 am

Lone.prophet wrote:Now noboady can whine anymore

issue resolved but it would take a lot more than that to end whineing in general :wink:

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:55 am

Perfect, thank you lone. Could we see text links to those images and the xml?

pepperonibread · Post by **pepperonibread** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:04 pm

rebelman wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:Now noboady can whine anymore

issue resolved but it would take a lot more than that to end whineing in general

Sorry, I have to whine some more

: On the large map, the shadows of the army circles are going in the opposite direction of the bevel. Also on the large map, the bevel and shadow of the numbers on the on the legend are going in the opposite direction in relation to the small map. And in the title the shadows are going in a few different directions. I think there's a global light option on Photoshop that will make all the light go in the same direction. I'm sorry I even had to mention this; I know how bad you want this quenched.

rebelman · Post by **rebelman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:09 pm

one final clashing colours issue - i think it should be ok but could you post a neutral 88 on all terrs. should be fine but needs a look.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:19 pm

rebelman wrote:one final clashing colours issue - i think it should be ok but could you post a neutral 88 on all terrs. should be fine but needs a look.

The neutral color is going to change soon to a darker gray, so it should be fine. To worry about the white player might be worth while though. (Yes, there will be a white player.)

lanyards · Post by **lanyards** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:36 pm

pepperonibread wrote:Sorry, I have to whine some more : On the large map, the shadows of the army circles are going in the opposite direction of the bevel. Also on the large map, the bevel and shadow of the numbers on the on the legend are going in the opposite direction in relation to the small map. And in the title the shadows are going in a few different directions. I think there's a global light option on Photoshop that will make all the light go in the same direction. I'm sorry I even had to mention this; I know how bad you want this quenched.

Some more whine:

When comparing the legend on your large and small map, I found that the circles with the value of the the continent bonus have a different shadow angle. On the large map, the shadow is on the north-west side on the circle, and on the small it is on the south-east side.

Coleman wrote:Perfect, thank you lone. Could we see text links to those images and the xml?

Please?

--lanyards

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:42 pm

lanyards wrote:When comparing the legend on your large and small map, I found that the circles with the value of the the continent bonus have a different shadow angle. On the large map, the shadow is on the north-west side on the circle, and on the small it is on the south-east side.

small/large consistancy isnt an issues on such trivial issues

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:48 pm

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 <?xml version="1.0" ?> 
- <map>
  <title>The Netherlands</title> 
  <smallwidth>541</smallwidth> 
  <smallheight>640</smallheight> 
  <largewidth>640</largewidth> 
  <largeheight>757</largeheight> 
  <filetype>png</filetype> 
- <continent>
  <name>Wadden Eilanden</name> 
  <bonus>3</bonus> 
- <components>
  <component>Texel</component> 
  <component>Vlieland</component> 
  <component>Terschelling</component> 
  <component>Ameland</component> 
  <component>Schiermonnikoog</component> 
  </components>
  </continent>
- <continent>
  <name>Noord Nederland</name> 
  <bonus>2</bonus> 
- <components>
  <component>Friesland</component> 
  <component>Groningen</component> 
  <component>Drenthe</component> 
  </components>
  </continent>
- <continent>
  <name>Midden Nederland</name> 
  <bonus>4</bonus> 
- <components>
  <component>Flevoland</component> 
  <component>Overijsel</component> 
  <component>Twente</component> 
  <component>Veluwe</component> 
  <component>Over Betuwe</component> 
  <component>Achterhoek</component> 
  </components>
  </continent>
- <continent>
  <name>Holland</name> 
  <bonus>5</bonus> 
- <components>
  <component>West Friesland</component> 
  <component>Beemster</component> 
  <component>Haarlem</component> 
  <component>Amsterdam</component> 
  <component>Rijnland</component> 
  <component>Hoekse Waard</component> 
  <component>Westland</component> 
  </components>
  </continent>
- <continent>
  <name>Utrecht</name> 
  <bonus>2</bonus> 
- <components>
  <component>Utrecht</component> 
  <component>Biesbosch</component> 
  </components>
  </continent>
- <continent>
  <name>Zeeland</name> 
  <bonus>3</bonus> 
- <components>
  <component>S. Duiveland</component> 
  <component>G. Overflakkee</component> 
  <component>Tholen</component> 
  <component>Beveland</component> 
  <component>Zeeuws Vlaanderen</component> 
  </components>
  </continent>
- <continent>
  <name>Zuid Nederland</name> 
  <bonus>4</bonus> 
- <components>
  <component>Zuid-Limburg</component> 
  <component>Noord-Limburg</component> 
  <component>Betuwe</component> 
  <component>De Peel</component> 
  <component>Maaskant</component> 
  <component>Heusden</component> 
  <component>De Baronie</component> 
  </components>
  </continent>
- <territory>
  <name>Schiermonnikoog</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Ameland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>380</smallx> 
  <smally>40</smally> 
  <largex>450</largex> 
  <largey>43</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Ameland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Friesland</border> 
  <border>Terschelling</border> 
  <border>Schiermonnikoog</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>311</smallx> 
  <smally>55</smally> 
  <largex>369</largex> 
  <largey>61</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Terschelling</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Ameland</border> 
  <border>Vlieland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>250</smallx> 
  <smally>71</smally> 
  <largex>297</largex> 
  <largey>80</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Vlieland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Terschelling</border> 
  <border>Texel</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>216</smallx> 
  <smally>107</smally> 
  <largex>256</largex> 
  <largey>122</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Texel</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Vlieland</border> 
  <border>West Friesland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>196</smallx> 
  <smally>148</smally> 
  <largex>233</largex> 
  <largey>171</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Friesland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Ameland</border> 
  <border>West Friesland</border> 
  <border>Groningen</border> 
  <border>Drenthe</border> 
  <border>Overijsel</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>323</smallx> 
  <smally>149</smally> 
  <largex>383</largex> 
  <largey>172</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Groningen</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Friesland</border> 
  <border>Drenthe</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>458</smallx> 
  <smally>112</smally> 
  <largex>543</largex> 
  <largey>128</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Drenthe</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Friesland</border> 
  <border>Groningen</border> 
  <border>Overijsel</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>450</smallx> 
  <smally>205</smally> 
  <largex>533</largex> 
  <largey>238</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Overijsel</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Friesland</border> 
  <border>Drenthe</border> 
  <border>Flevoland</border> 
  <border>Veluwe</border> 
  <border>Twente</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>371</smallx> 
  <smally>262</smally> 
  <largex>440</largex> 
  <largey>306</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Twente</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Overijsel</border> 
  <border>Veluwe</border> 
  <border>Achterhoek</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>460</smallx> 
  <smally>315</smally> 
  <largex>545</largex> 
  <largey>369</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Achterhoek</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Twente</border> 
  <border>Over Betuwe</border> 
  <border>Veluwe</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>440</smallx> 
  <smally>386</smally> 
  <largex>521</largex> 
  <largey>452</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Veluwe</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Overijsel</border> 
  <border>Twente</border> 
  <border>Achterhoek</border> 
  <border>Flevoland</border> 
  <border>Over Betuwe</border> 
  <border>Utrecht</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>338</smallx> 
  <smally>342</smally> 
  <largex>400</largex> 
  <largey>400</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Over Betuwe</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Betuwe</border> 
  <border>Veluwe</border> 
  <border>Achterhoek</border> 
  <border>Utrecht</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>318</smallx> 
  <smally>386</smally> 
  <largex>377</largex> 
  <largey>453</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Flevoland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Overijsel</border> 
  <border>Amsterdam</border> 
  <border>Veluwe</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>269</smallx> 
  <smally>309</smally> 
  <largex>319</largex> 
  <largey>362</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>West Friesland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Friesland</border> 
  <border>Texel</border> 
  <border>Beemster</border> 
  <border>Haarlem</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>200</smallx> 
  <smally>243</smally> 
  <largex>237</largex> 
  <largey>283</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Beemster</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>West Friesland</border> 
  <border>Haarlem</border> 
  <border>Amsterdam</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>224</smallx> 
  <smally>269</smally> 
  <largex>266</largex> 
  <largey>314</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Haarlem</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Amsterdam</border> 
  <border>Beemster</border> 
  <border>West Friesland</border> 
  <border>Rijnland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>176</smallx> 
  <smally>305</smally> 
  <largex>209</largex> 
  <largey>357</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Amsterdam</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Beemster</border> 
  <border>Haarlem</border> 
  <border>Rijnland</border> 
  <border>Utrecht</border> 
  <border>Flevoland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>216</smallx> 
  <smally>333</smally> 
  <largex>256</largex> 
  <largey>390</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Rijnland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Haarlem</border> 
  <border>Amsterdam</border> 
  <border>Utrecht</border> 
  <border>Westland</border> 
  <border>Hoekse Waard</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>178</smallx> 
  <smally>364</smally> 
  <largex>211</largex> 
  <largey>426</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Westland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Rijnland</border> 
  <border>Hoekse Waard</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>141</smallx> 
  <smally>387</smally> 
  <largex>167</largex> 
  <largey>454</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Hoekse Waard</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Westland</border> 
  <border>Utrecht</border> 
  <border>Biesbosch</border> 
  <border>G. Overflakkee</border> 
  <border>Rijnland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>184</smallx> 
  <smally>397</smally> 
  <largex>218</largex> 
  <largey>466</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Utrecht</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Amsterdam</border> 
  <border>Rijnland</border> 
  <border>Hoekse Waard</border> 
  <border>Over Betuwe</border> 
  <border>Biesbosch</border> 
  <border>Maaskant</border> 
  <border>Veluwe</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>262</smallx> 
  <smally>380</smally> 
  <largex>311</largex> 
  <largey>446</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Biesbosch</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Utrecht</border> 
  <border>Hoekse Waard</border> 
  <border>De Baronie</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>227</smallx> 
  <smally>428</smally> 
  <largex>269</largex> 
  <largey>502</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>G. Overflakkee</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Hoekse Waard</border> 
  <border>S. Duiveland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>121</smallx> 
  <smally>447</smally> 
  <largex>144</largex> 
  <largey>525</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>S. Duiveland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>G. Overflakkee</border> 
  <border>Tholen</border> 
  <border>Beveland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>94</smallx> 
  <smally>464</smally> 
  <largex>112</largex> 
  <largey>545</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Beveland</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>S. Duiveland</border> 
  <border>Zeeuws Vlaanderen</border> 
  <border>Tholen</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>73</smallx> 
  <smally>526</smally> 
  <largex>87</largex> 
  <largey>618</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Zeeuws Vlaanderen</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Beveland</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>87</smallx> 
  <smally>557</smally> 
  <largex>104</largex> 
  <largey>655</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Tholen</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>S. Duiveland</border> 
  <border>Beveland</border> 
  <border>De Baronie</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>152</smallx> 
  <smally>508</smally> 
  <largex>180</largex> 
  <largey>597</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>De Baronie</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Tholen</border> 
  <border>Biesbosch</border> 
  <border>Heusden</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>212</smallx> 
  <smally>479</smally> 
  <largex>252</largex> 
  <largey>562</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Heusden</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>De Baronie</border> 
  <border>Maaskant</border> 
  <border>De Peel</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>256</smallx> 
  <smally>479</smally> 
  <largex>303</largex> 
  <largey>563</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Maaskant</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Utrecht</border> 
  <border>Heusden</border> 
  <border>De Peel</border> 
  <border>Betuwe</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>319</smallx> 
  <smally>458</smally> 
  <largex>378</largex> 
  <largey>538</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Betuwe</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Noord-Limburg</border> 
  <border>Maaskant</border> 
  <border>De Peel</border> 
  <border>Over Betuwe</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>356</smallx> 
  <smally>434</smally> 
  <largex>422</largex> 
  <largey>509</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>De Peel</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Noord-Limburg</border> 
  <border>Maaskant</border> 
  <border>Heusden</border> 
  <border>Betuwe</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>321</smallx> 
  <smally>517</smally> 
  <largex>380</largex> 
  <largey>608</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Noord-Limburg</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>De Peel</border> 
  <border>Betuwe</border> 
  <border>Zuid-Limburg</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>394</smallx> 
  <smally>512</smally> 
  <largex>467</largex> 
  <largey>601</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
- <territory>
  <name>Zuid-Limburg</name> 
- <borders>
  <border>Noord-Limburg</border> 
  </borders>
- <coordinates>
  <smallx>367</smallx> 
  <smally>601</smally> 
  <largex>435</largex> 
  <largey>707</largey> 
  </coordinates>
  </territory>
  </map>

heres the XML, and if anybody could help me center the army numbers it would be great

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http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/prophetlone/NLfinalcopy-5.png

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http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/prophetlone/NLfinalsmallcopy-4.png

and the map links

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:50 pm

ask lanyard to help you center them

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:56 pm

here are the shades ok i hope

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:23 pm

Can we see anothwe army test result?

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:24 pm

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:31 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:NO

suit yourself. . .

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:41 pm

:p lol laynard is working on the XML

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:45 pm

Lone.prophet wrote::p lol laynard is working on the XML

In not cncerned about entering yet, i jsut want to enure the color issue is 100% resolved.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:17 pm

gimil wrote:
lanyards wrote:When comparing the legend on your large and small map, I found that the circles with the value of the the continent bonus have a different shadow angle. On the large map, the shadow is on the north-west side on the circle, and on the small it is on the south-east side.

small/large consistancy isnt an issues on such trivial issues

Really?!

They do look completely different - the Light source has been completely flipped for both Army circles and Bonus Circles...

C.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:22 pm

yeti_c wrote:
gimil wrote:
lanyards wrote:When comparing the legend on your large and small map, I found that the circles with the value of the the continent bonus have a different shadow angle. On the large map, the shadow is on the north-west side on the circle, and on the small it is on the south-east side.

small/large consistancy isnt an issues on such trivial issues

Really?!

They do look completely different - the Light source has been completely flipped for both Army circles and Bonus Circles...

C.

have you seen british isles

not that that matters becasue that was before the foundry.

But they may be different but if there any need to have them identical in both images?