Conquer Club

I'd prefer option 'A' myself.

I just found it interesting that eight hours per week can shave seven years off of the earliest current retirement age(62) with total hours worked at 92,352 over thirty-seven years comapared to fourty-four years at 91,520.

Since it's all about fairness, retirement eligibility should be based on number of hours worked rather than age. You no workee, you no retiree. Just seems like a good idea on many levels to me.

Already retired - don't care what you want.

HapSmo19 wrote:I'd prefer option 'A' myself.

I just found it interesting that eight hours per week can shave seven years off of the earliest current retirement age(62) with total hours worked at 92,352 over thirty-seven years comapared to fourty-four years at 91,520.

Since it's all about fairness, retirement eligibility should be based on number of hours worked rather than age. You no workee, you no retiree. Just seems like a good idea on many levels to me.

People who do this on one job generally work 3 days one week, 4 the next and then get 4 hours overtime. They are subject to the same retirement ages as everyone else.

However, most people today work 2-29 hour jobs, with no benefits. Retirement is likely to be 70 and include a part-time job, perhaps even a full-time job.

mpjh wrote:Already retired - don't care what you want.

Well, you being a commie-homo lover,...right back atcha'.

Retired at 55, still don't care what you want.

I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

However, of all the shifts I've ever worked, my preference by far was this:

12 hours per shift
3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off (7 days per week)

Man, that was a great shift.

PLAYER57832 wrote:People who do this on one job generally work 3 days one week, 4 the next and then get 4 hours overtime. They are subject to the same retirement ages as everyone else.

Yeah, I've done the three-on, four-off thing and even a three-twelve weekend shift and got paid for 40. Four days off every week is awesome.
The number of hours I threw out there were optimal. As in, if someone worked from the time they were 18 til they were 55 or 62. It just seems a better idea would be to make social security witholdings a flat -rate per hour and give those that work more the option to retire when they reached that hypothetical number of hours, whatever that might be(80,000?).





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Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

I never meant to imply that it would be enough but, for those that saved and own their home outright, it should at least be enough to eat and keep the lights on. Well,.....heh.

Oh boy, hap, are you in for some unpleasant surprises.

HapSmo19 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

I never meant to imply that it would be enough but, for those that saved and own their home outright, it should at least be enough to eat and keep the lights on. Well,.....heh.

I wish. My DREAM is to never work again. I'm a lazy sonofabitch at heart.

Woodruff wrote:

HapSmo19 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

I never meant to imply that it would be enough but, for those that saved and own their home outright, it should at least be enough to eat and keep the lights on. Well,.....heh.

I wish. My DREAM is to never work again. I'm a lazy sonofabitch at heart.

Aren't we all... or so we think until we really do have nothing to do.

You will never "have nothing to do," but you will not always earn money for what you do.

mpjh wrote:You will never "have nothing to do," but you will not always earn money for what you do.

Yeah.. kind of like what I do now...

No, I meant people who truly cannot do much.

mpjh wrote:Oh boy, hap, are you in for some unpleasant surprises.

Why would they be unpleasant suprises other than the fact that it wont be there at all(which would come as no suprise)?

I mean, if I don't plan and save for my own future(which I don't really), why would I be suprised if a bunch of thieving snakes, that I already know are scum, pulled the rug out from under me?

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

HapSmo19 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:I'm already retired from the military, so that check's a freebie (for what it's worth...not enough to actually retire, obviously).

I never meant to imply that it would be enough but, for those that saved and own their home outright, it should at least be enough to eat and keep the lights on. Well,.....heh.

I wish. My DREAM is to never work again. I'm a lazy sonofabitch at heart.

Aren't we all... or so we think until we really do have nothing to do.

My wife says if I'm home all day, SHE'S going to work. (She's been a homemaker our whole marriage.)

HapSmo19 wrote:

mpjh wrote:Oh boy, hap, are you in for some unpleasant surprises.

Why would they be unpleasant suprises other than the fact that it wont be there at all(which would come as no suprise)?

I mean, if I don't plan and save for my own future(which I don't really), why would I be suprised if a bunch of thieving snakes, that I already know are scum, pulled the rug out from under me?

That's the old hap, illogical, angry, and stupid. That is why your retirement will probably be in prison for some stupid act of treason.

mpjh wrote:That's the old hap, illogical, angry, and stupid. That is why your retirement will probably be in prison for some stupid act of treason.

You gotta be pretty jacked-up-in-the-melon to think what they're doing to this country isn't treason.

And I've managed to keep my nose clean enough to stay out of prison thus far so I wouldn't hold my breath on that if I was you.

Actually,....

Don't worry I am in no rush. We got 7 more years of Obama I, then it is Michele's turn. You will be going bugfuck in about 2 years and ready for some stupid suggestion from an undercover provocateur looking for easy marks like you.

HapSmo19 wrote:

mpjh wrote:That's the old hap, illogical, angry, and stupid. That is why your retirement will probably be in prison for some stupid act of treason.

You gotta be pretty jacked-up-in-the-melon to think what they're doing to this country isn't treason.

Treason? In that case, you've got a crime to prove, Batman!

mpjh wrote:Don't worry I am in no rush. We got 7 more years of Obama I...

Dream on. He'll be lucky if he makes it through four.

mpjh wrote:You will be going bugfuck in about 2 years and ready for some stupid suggestion from an undercover provocateur looking for easy marks like you.

Ooooh. Espionage. One thing I won't be doing when the shit tanks is hanging out with, or looking for advice from strangers but, yeah, sounds like a hell of a world you created.

Woodruff wrote:Treason? In that case, you've got a crime to prove, Batman!

They prove it themselves every day.

Say, when you moving to the woods? I got a brother there just waiting for you city slicks who think they can survive without the rest of us. He'll barter with you, you life for everything you have.

HapSmo19 wrote:

Woodruff wrote:Treason? In that case, you've got a crime to prove, Batman!

They prove it themselves every day.

Yeah, I didn't think you could either.

You pretender to logic. Treason is the failure to stand up to tyranny. Your generation has done that in spades. In fact, you even reelected the tyrant, and volunteered to fight in his murderous wars.

mpjh wrote:You pretender to logic. Treason is the failure to stand up to tyranny. Your generation has done that in spades. In fact, you even reelected the tyrant, and volunteered to fight in his murderous wars.

So you redefine words at will as well. Good one.

It's pretty funny to me that you think you've won something by having the left hand of the same body in control. Or that you think if I'm not hard left, I must be hard right.

No, I know you, Hap, you are milquetoast, remember.