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HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:03 pm
by radiojake
So it's only 11am and it's already hit 41 degrees Celcius (105.8 in the non-sensical Fahrenheit system)

That's after yesterday's 46C (114F) and 43C (109F) the day before... - and still another three 40 + degree days ahead!!

It was a pretty mild/cold Christmas/New Years (I was actually wearing a jumper on New Years, which is NOT cool) - but Summer has defintely come back and kicked our ass

My brother was in Montreal last month and it sounded crazy cold. I always will be amazed by the extreme temperature differences on the planet

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:14 pm
by Frigidus
It's so odd thinking about summer and winter being flipped. That said: We sure could use some of that global warming up here!

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:18 pm
by radiojake
Frigidus wrote:It's so odd thinking about summer and winter being flipped. That said: We sure could use some of that global warming up here!


We've got it

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:19 pm
by Kingdroid
radiojake wrote:So it's only 11am and it's already hit 41 degrees Celcius (105.8 in the non-sensical Fahrenheit system)

That's after yesterday's 46C (114F) and 43C (109F) the day before... - and still another three 40 + degree days ahead!!

It was a pretty mild/cold Christmas/New Years (I was actually wearing a jumper on New Years, which is NOT cool) - but Summer has defintely come back and kicked our ass

My brother was in Montreal last month and it sounded crazy cold. I always will be amazed by the extreme temperature differences on the planet

imma amke this a farenheit vs celsius discussion

you really can't blame the Americans for the farenheit system, and other odd systems we have

in fact, it is Englands fault, since we got it from them.

they decided to switch later

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:22 pm
by radiojake
Kingdroid wrote:imma amke this a farenheit vs celsius discussion

you really can't blame the Americans for the farenheit system, and other odd systems we have

in fact, it is Englands fault, since we got it from them.

they decided to switch later


I know that

Australia used to use Fahrenheit, and other non-metric systems aswell

The keyword here is 'switched'

Australia did it in the 1960's - not sure when Britain did

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:26 pm
by Martin Ronne
radiojake wrote:So it's only 11am and it's already hit 41 degrees Celcius (105.8 in the non-sensical Fahrenheit system)

That's after yesterday's 46C (114F) and 43C (109F) the day before... - and still another three 40 + degree days ahead!!

It was a pretty mild/cold Christmas/New Years (I was actually wearing a jumper on New Years, which is NOT cool) - but Summer has defintely come back and kicked our ass

My brother was in Montreal last month and it sounded crazy cold. I always will be amazed by the extreme temperature differences on the planet


About a week ago it was -17 Fahrenheit (-27.222 in the dumb ass Celcius system) here.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:31 pm
by radiojake
Martin Ronne wrote:
About a week ago it was -17 Fahrenheit (-27.222 in the dumb ass Celcius system) here.


Shit that is cold, something i have not even been close to experiencing

I called Farenheit non-sensical because there is nothing to base the temperature on, it's just a random set of numbers

Celcius, despite your claim, is not 'dumb ass' as it make logical sense.

0C is when water freezes. 100C is when water boils

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:39 pm
by Martin Ronne
radiojake wrote:
Martin Ronne wrote:
About a week ago it was -17 Fahrenheit (-27.222 in the dumb ass Celcius system) here.


Shit that is cold, something i have not even been close to experiencing

I called Farenheit non-sensical because there is nothing to base the temperature on, it's just a random set of numbers

Celcius, despite your claim, is not 'dumb ass' as it make logical sense.

0C is when water freezes. 100C is when water boils


There is also to much temperature change in between just a couple degrees.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:41 pm
by oVo
Logical sense? Why can't water boil at 0ºC and freeze at 100ºC ?
Who determined that hot is up and cold is down?

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:46 pm
by radiojake
oVo wrote:Logical sense? Why can't water boil at 0ºC and freeze at 100ºC ?
Who determined that hot is up and cold is down?


Well, it could if you wrote out the temperature system that way, but someone beat you to it.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:06 pm
by InkL0sed
oVo wrote:Logical sense? Why can't water boil at 0ºC and freeze at 100ºC ?
Who determined that hot is up and cold is down?


Cold is the absence of thermal energy. Temperature is the increased speed of particles.

So yes, hot is up. :geek:

Re: HOT!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:47 pm
by bbqpenguin
ugh i wish it was warmer here. my region is hvaing the coldest winter it's had in almost 80 years...

us georgians ain't used to this kind of cold lol

Re: HOT!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:08 am
by Martin Ronne
bbqpenguin wrote:ugh i wish it was warmer here. my region is hvaing the coldest winter it's had in almost 80 years...

us georgians ain't used to this kind of cold lol


GEORGIA! Your complaining about how cold it is in GEORGIA!

Re: HOT!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:24 am
by jonesthecurl
Frigidus wrote:It's so odd thinking about summer and winter being flipped. That said: We sure could use some of that global warming up here!


When I was in Kenya, I crossed the equator on foot. somewhere I have two photos of Mrs Curl, one where she's in summer and I'm taking the photo in winter, one where she's in winter and I'm taking the photo in summer.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:44 pm
by CrazyAnglican
Martin Ronne wrote:
bbqpenguin wrote:ugh i wish it was warmer here. my region is hvaing the coldest winter it's had in almost 80 years...

us georgians ain't used to this kind of cold lol


GEORGIA! Your complaining about how cold it is in GEORGIA!


Yes, you don't have to drive with these people who have no clue that ice exists. We have to have signs warning them "Caution, Bridge may ice in winter".

Re: HOT!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:24 pm
by Caleb the Cruel
oVo wrote:Logical sense? Why can't water boil at 0ºC and freeze at 100ºC ?
Who determined that hot is up and cold is down?

Mercury.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:42 am
by Frigidus
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
oVo wrote:Logical sense? Why can't water boil at 0ºC and freeze at 100ºC ?
Who determined that hot is up and cold is down?

Mercury.


/thread

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:49 pm
by Minister Masket
InkL0sed wrote:
oVo wrote:Logical sense? Why can't water boil at 0ºC and freeze at 100ºC ?
Who determined that hot is up and cold is down?


Cold is the absence of thermal energy. Temperature is the increased speed of particles.

So yes, hot is up. :geek:

Incorrect!
You would have to be at absolute zero (-273oC) to have a complete absense of thermal energy.
And because energy is always present, that temperature cannot be reached.

:ugeek:

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:51 pm
by InkL0sed
Minister Masket wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:
oVo wrote:Logical sense? Why can't water boil at 0ºC and freeze at 100ºC ?
Who determined that hot is up and cold is down?


Cold is the absence of thermal energy. Temperature is the increased speed of particles.

So yes, hot is up. :geek:

Incorrect!
You would have to be at absolute zero (-273oC) to have a complete absense of thermal energy.
And because energy is always present, that temperature cannot be reached.

:ugeek:


Semantics. I didn't mean there was no thermal energy, only that the cold has less thermal energy than the warm.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:53 pm
by Minister Masket
Absense of thermal energy = no thermal energy.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:57 pm
by Nickbaldwin
This is exactly why only Kelvin makes sense.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:15 pm
by Snorri1234
oVo wrote:Logical sense? Why can't water boil at 0ºC and freeze at 100ºC ?
Who determined that hot is up and cold is down?


Because we don't like large negative numbers. -272 degrees is okay, but -3500 degrees isn't.

Our minds are just stupid and not logical, but the logic behind the system makes sense to us.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:22 pm
by InkL0sed
Minister Masket wrote:Absense of thermal energy = no thermal energy.


Again. Semantics.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:25 pm
by Snorri1234
Also, water is the most common thing on this planet we can think off that is easily recognisable. It freezes below 0 celsius and boils at 100 celsius, those temperatures are normal on this planet. Unlike the boiling and freezing points of oxygen.

Re: HOT!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:44 pm
by MeDeFe
Snorri1234 wrote:Also, water is the most common thing on this planet we can think off that is easily recognisable. It freezes below 0 celsius and boils at 100 celsius, those temperatures are normal on this planet. Unlike the boiling and freezing points of oxygen.

I'm not sure Oxygen even has a freezing point.