Conquer Club

Who the hell labeled me? Since when have I been a conspiracy nut? What the crap people? You're all lame.

The conspiracy labelled you Juan. everyone else got a PM about it. Personally from the CIA.

Oh, except Jay.

it is true but i got mine via email

You guys all look at me as "big Jay" or something? What the crap??????? AWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This isn't even funny!

Sorry Juan. Take a chill pill. Who said you were a conspiracy nut?

apey wrote:it is true but i got mine via email

Well, you must be special. Oh, so you are...

jonesthecurl wrote:Sorry Juan. Take a chill pill. Who said you were a conspiracy nut?

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=61854

*Sniff* Jenos and Nikoli.... *sniff*

Now, then, Juan - sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never harm me.

Jen, nick, put those sticks and stones down at once!

Juan_Bottom wrote:You guys all look at me as "big Jay" or something?

That's a label that'd upset anyone...



But the answer is no. Originally I thought you might be a sort of "Mecha-Jay" character... but it turns out that you're actually a fairly decent guy.

Ok... coming from DM, that means something.

it seems that he popped a chub.

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! (except for building 7. That one collapsed due to fire, so says the NIST.)

Juan, you actually read a Jenos post?

jonesthecurl wrote:Now, then, Juan - sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never harm me.

Jen, nick, put those sticks and stones down at once!

Awwwwwwww... *puts down hickory switch*

Conspiracy theorist...

Although to be fair, I was responding to what sounding a lot like a conspiracy theory...

InkL0sed wrote:Juan, you actually read a Jenos post?

Juan_Bottom wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:Who said you were a conspiracy nut?

Jenos

Who is a member of both Jesus Freaks and Fireside Tavern, whose bigot Christian leaders are looking for an excuse not to let Juan in. Coincidence?

Nikolai wrote:Conspiracy theorist...

Although to be fair, I was responding to what sounding a lot like a conspiracy theory...

Now Nikolai, if you've got something to say, come up here and say it out loud in front of the whole class.

Stop sniggering, Juan, this isn't funny.

Aw, do I have to? ... Okay.

CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

Probably not really, but you are begging for it.

Also I mentioned that to be fair, he was offering some very conspiracy theory like speculations. And I didn't call him a nut. Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean we... I mean... they aren't out to get him, you know.

Nikolai wrote:Aw, do I have to? ... Okay.

CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

Probably not really, but you are begging for it.

Also I mentioned that to be fair, he was offering some very conspiracy theory like speculations. And I didn't call him a nut. Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean we... I mean... they aren't out to get him, you know.

EXPLAIN!

Come now, in front of everyone, how is what I said a conspiracy? All I said was Dems were getting shafted.

That's it, boys, let's have a nice rational discussion. No name-calling.
Now, Nikolai, why do you think that Juan's calling attention to the "where you register" thing sounds like a conspiracy? Or are you referring to other instances?
Juan, what is the difference between your opinions and those of a real conspiracy theorist?

jonesthecurl wrote:Juan, what is the difference between your opinions and those of a real conspiracy theorist?

I do not believe that anything is hidden. I do believe in this instance, we are being told the truth.

That does not mean that conspiracies do not exist, or that I do not believe in any. I do believe that American Media IN SOME capacity works for our government. I believe the same of the BBC in England.
I also believe that terrorism is made up to scare people, for votes, for money, for power, for whatever. The Department of Homeland Security has a billion dollar budget, but has never caught a terrorist.

Actually, those are the only conspiracies I really subscribe to right now. But neither has anything to do whith what I was talking about. Nor do I see how they make me a conspiracy theorist.

As far as the Amero conspiracy goes, I do not believe in it. Of the two woman who came forward, one of them has since confessed that they made it all up to become famous. Case closed.
And as far as 9-11, the jury is still out. I've actually been on the fence about that one for a loooong time, but no one ever took the other side, so.... But yes, I'm on the fence. I just watched Truth Rising, and that film had some suprising witnessess.

I am not a conspiracy nut.
Man walked on the moon, aliens do not visit us, RFID is not 666, the North American Union was just an idea thought up at a college level think-tank, there is no "new world order", Elvis is dead, vaccines are not used to randomly give people cancer, chem-trail what?, the US does not have an Earthquake machine, nor do we have a hurricane machine, I can't even think of any more.

BUT I will give you conspiracists this, you were right about spider-goats.


In closing, I'm just a guy who loves to read. I am not a conspiracist.

Very good, Juan. Gold star for clarity.


Boys? Your turn.

Juan_Bottom wrote:I AM NOT AN ANIMAL!!!! I AM A HUMAN BEING!!!!!

Exactly . Also, that is the first time anyone made up a qoute for me. Wow, I do feel obliged to fight... even though it was funny..... Huh....

jonesthecurl wrote:Very good, Juan. Gold star for clarity.

That's what I was going for.

Juan_Bottom wrote:EXPLAIN!

Come now, in front of everyone, how is what I said a conspiracy? All I said was Dems were getting shafted.

Certainly. First, permit me to establish some basic definitions.

dictionary.com wrote:conspiracy theory
1. a theory that explains an event as being the result of a plot by a covert group or organization; a belief that a particular unexplained event was caused by such a group.
2. the idea that many important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

Conspiracy theorist is listed only as a derivative of conspiracy theory, meaning it can reasonably be defined as "one who believes in the factual nature of a conspiracy theory."

Definitions having been established, let's proceed first to the general notion that Juan_Bottom is not a conspiracy theorist.

Juan_Bottom wrote:That does not mean that conspiracies do not exist, or that I do not believe in any. I do believe that American Media IN SOME capacity works for our government. I believe the same of the BBC in England.
I also believe that terrorism is made up to scare people, for votes, for money, for power, for whatever. The Department of Homeland Security has a billion dollar budget, but has never caught a terrorist.

Actually, those are the only conspiracies I really subscribe to right now. But neither has anything to do whith what I was talking about. Nor do I see how they make me a conspiracy theorist.

Having admitted belief in the factual nature of secret plots (terrorism being a particularly good - or bad - example) which remain largely unknown to the general public, you are an admitted conspiracy theorist. Just because you don't believe in some of the more obviously ridiculous conspiracies out there doesn't mean you're not a conspiracy theorist. (Note: this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Many conspiracy theorists have been right. I'm a conspiracy theorist myself... I think Iran and Russia were/are planning to give Iran the Bomb. You don't have to be defensive about it. But you certainly are a conspiracy theorist.)

jonesthecurl wrote:Now, Nikolai, why do you think that Juan's calling attention to the "where you register" thing sounds like a conspiracy? Or are you referring to other instances?

I was referring to this instance, although (according to Juan, anyway) there are other instances available. For this instance, let's revisit Juan's earlier quote.

Juan_Bottom wrote:All I said was Dems were getting shafted.

By a secret plot, unknown to the general public? That would make this an unexplained event resulting from a plot by a covert group or organization, yes? Granted, the original comments, if I remember correctly, weren't quite so accusatory... it was all innuendo, which is why I was mostly kidding about Juan being a conspiracy theorist. But given his commentary in this thread... need I really explain further?


Do I get a gold star? Do I? Do I?

Sorry Nikolai, this slipped off the bottom of the page and I have ommited to reply.

Yes you get a star, you presented your viewpoint with admirable clarity (didn't he class?), and I particularly liked the way that you admitted that young Juan might actually have a point. Very honest behaviour in such a debate.

There, boys, you see? We can all get along without resorting to shouting, pushing and shoving.

The next time I assign a class project I'll get you two to work as a team and we'll see how well you can co-operate.


RRRIIINNNGGG!!!!

Ah, class over. Dismissed.