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Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:13 am
by sdh
Accused:

Shaz2
Caspian King

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Could be nothing but looked and they have played 1,065 games together which is a lot considering Caspian King has played 2,665 games. Looking at their games on the Middle East map, 3-6 players on Terminator or Standard Shaz2 has won 42 out of 94 (44%)

Only looked through some of their games:
Games
Game 19741424
Caspian King appears to be leading this game, eliminates the other 2 players and then deadbeats right at the end when it is only him and shaz2 left playing. Before his final turns attack on shaz2 he made 38 attacks in the game, only 2 on shaz2


Game 19452413
Caspian King again eliminates the other 2 players from the game, and then misses the last turn allowing shaz to mop up


Game 19442794
I can't see what happened but See comment in chat
redlion: Since Caspian King and shaz2 are the same person or very close friends... what happens next is pretty much determined ...Caspian King will let Shaz2 win. You two have played way too many games together with shaz2 regularly getting the upper hand. WTF?


Game 19201514
Caspian King eliminates green and assuming gets spoils? then when just him and shaz2 misses the next turn to allow shaz2 to mop up


Game 20144001
Caspian King attacking the third player before conveniently missing a turn in round 5, before shaz eliminates him and finishes the game
Even their 2 player games together look dodgy with Shaz winning 16 from 18.

Sorry if I'm reading too much into this, maybe they are friends/family or something....

EDIT to show it in numbers.....

shaz2 does considerably better, and Caspian King considerably worse when they play together as well. This is only looking at Standard/terminator games on the Middle East map with 3+ players.

In games with eachother:
Shaz2 42 out of 94 (44%)
Caspian King 8 out of 94 (8%)

In games without eachother:
Shaz2 has a record of 126 from 430 (29%)
Caspian King has a record of 8 out of 40 (20%)

Broken down for 3 and 4 player games:
3 Player
Games together:
Shaz2: 11 out of 11 (100%)
Caspian King 0 out of 11 (0%)

Games without eachother:
Shaz2: 102 out of 331 30%
Caspian King: 6 from 27 22%
4 Player
Games together:
Shaz2 23 from 48 (47.9%)
Caspian King 4 from 48 (8%)

Games without eachother:
Shaz2 16 out of 59 (27%)
Caspian King 2 from 5 (40%)
if you look at all of their games together (not just middle east map) with 3/4 players, shaz2 has this record:
3 player games 22 from 23 (95%)
4 player games 43 from 76 (56%)

Don't know if it's secret diplomacy or what but Caspian King is helping him

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:41 am
by sdh
Game 20138009 Even this active game they don't attack eachothers bonus with no protection.

Also the last 3 times I looked the time they last visited is exactly the same...

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:56 pm
by cdbridges
Shake & Bake baby...

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:39 am
by shaz2
Caspian King is my Son who is occasionally playing on On CC. There are no secret diplomacis at all. I have been a member for long enough to know it is against the rules.

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:33 pm
by Nut Shot Scott
Pretty compelling evidence of something fishy going on...

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:02 pm
by riskllama

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:38 am
by Shannon Apple
shaz2 wrote:Caspian King is my Son...
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Sorry, but...Time travel is possible?
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Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:01 am
by Nut Shot Scott
Bah hahahaha... screwed up who was who and posted from the wrong account?

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:51 am
by CivProBlows
Nut Shot Scott wrote:Bah hahahaha... screwed up who was who and posted from the wrong account?
I noticed that too. How old is the "son" supposed to be? The "dad" is 39, unless "they" both lied about their age. Even if you flop-flopped them, there's only a 16-year age gap.

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:58 am
by Shannon Apple
Do you know what I also find interesting? Shaz2 reported some multis or suspected multis during 2008 and 2009. After the Caspian account was created, he never posted a report again. This would absolutely make sense if you were trying to avoid bringing attention to yourself. And given this fact, I have no doubt that you know it's against the rules to have a second account.

I'm sorry if you guys aren't multis, but there is a lot of small stuff, when added together, that is pointing toward it.

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:12 pm
by CivProBlows
This one is pretty damning: Game 19741424

It caught my attention because of the only chat in the log:
2020-03-15 13:34:28 - mint-murray: last time i play this - blue its an escalating game - was the small bonus worth putting us both out ?

Caspian King was blue. The game log is even more interesting. CK took mint-murray out of the game, then on his next turn took Mike22 out of the game, leaving as usual in pretty much all of these 4-player games, only CK and Shaz left. CK then proceeded to miss 3 turns in a row, was kicked for missing those turns, leaving shaz the winner. WOW

Re: Shaz2 & Caspian King [tg]

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:12 pm
by TeeGee
Given all the evidence and after consultation I am confident that they are 2 different entities.
However, the results of games played together can not be ignored. The evidence is overwhelming that collusion between them exists whether or not it is intentional it is obvious.

Therefore I am placing a BLOCK on these accounts from playing in games together.