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Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:53 am
by ADodgeStratus
We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. We will not shower. Because that would take away precious anime TV binge watching time.


Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:15 am
by mrswdk
Anonymous lining up behind the big dogs on Wall Street.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:09 am
by waauw
omg omg omg OMG OMG *freaks out*

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:41 pm
by jgordon1111
Well so much for them being a non political group
This video is a clear declaration of if they don't like someone,they want others to do their dirty work for them.

What gives them the right to decide who runs for office anywhere. And what will they demand next.?

This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?

O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:00 am
by mandalorian2298
jgordon1111 wrote:...

This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?

O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steubenville_High_School_rape_case

Shown! (although, in accordance with trumponian ethics, you are probably going to consider their actions a crime against the privacy of fine student athletes who were only guilty of "boys being boys" :roll: )

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:09 am
by mrswdk
mandalorian2298 wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:...

This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?

O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steubenville_High_School_rape_case

Shown! (although, in accordance with trumponian ethics, you are probably going to consider their actions a crime against the privacy of fine student athletes who were only guilty of "boys being boys" :roll: )


Big Government once again telling people how they can and can't behave in the privacy of their own homes.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:56 am
by Bernie Sanders
Anonymous is not a country, corporation or an entity.

Just individuals who like to use that name to publicize their displeasure for some scumbag or bad behaving government/corporation.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:17 am
by jgordon1111
mandalorian2298 wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:...

This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?

O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steubenville_High_School_rape_case

Shown! (although, in accordance with trumponian ethics, you are probably going to consider their actions a crime against the privacy of fine student athletes who were only guilty of "boys being boys" :roll: )


I see, er um that was not a case of boys being boys in anyway shape or form, and I hope justice is served to all in full.

Again my point show anything that the group has done for anyone other than themselves. What you pointed to was not the group mentioned, it was a 45 yr old woman who blogs no mention of anonymous being involved at all anywhere in any of the reports.
TRY again

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:19 am
by jgordon1111
And in case your new to forums I am not a fan or supporter of Trump in any way.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:44 am
by Bernie Sanders
jgordon1111 wrote:And in case your new to forums I am not a fan or supporter of Trump in any way.

Most Trump supporters won't admit they support this publicity hound, outside in the real world.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:45 pm
by notyou2
jgordon1111 wrote:Well so much for them being a non political group
This video is a clear declaration of if they don't like someone,they want others to do their dirty work for them.

What gives them the right to decide who runs for office anywhere. And what will they demand next.?

This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?

O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda



Here's 8. Google is your friend you know.

http://www.businessinsider.com/good-hacks-by-anonymous-2013-4

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:11 pm
by jgordon1111
notyou2 wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Well so much for them being a non political group
This video is a clear declaration of if they don't like someone,they want others to do their dirty work for them.

What gives them the right to decide who runs for office anywhere. And what will they demand next.?

This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?

O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda



Here's 8. Google is your friend you know.

http://www.businessinsider.com/good-hacks-by-anonymous-2013-4


Thanks you, I was not aware of most of that, but again they have no right interfering in anyone's elections, where do they stop? If they want it done do it themselves, don't ask the general public to put their asses on the line for your private dislikes and agenda

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:58 pm
by Symmetry
jgordon1111 wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Well so much for them being a non political group
This video is a clear declaration of if they don't like someone,they want others to do their dirty work for them.

What gives them the right to decide who runs for office anywhere. And what will they demand next.?

This is cyber terrorism, and anyone who is actually ignorant enough to support them (O P ) needs to think about these people for a moment, what GOOD have they done?

O P show something positive they have done that has helped the world or any country or for that matter anyone other than their own unknown agenda



Here's 8. Google is your friend you know.

http://www.businessinsider.com/good-hacks-by-anonymous-2013-4


Thanks you, I was not aware of most of that, but again they have no right interfering in anyone's elections, where do they stop? If they want it done do it themselves, don't ask the general public to put their asses on the line for your private dislikes and agenda


Of course you weren't aware of that. It was almost cruel of NY2 to disillusion you. That, perhaps, groups of anonymous people might shape form a movement? That'd be tough to crack down on for your fellow rightists.

It's almost as if that's why they do it.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:46 pm
by notyou2
If more people stood up and spoke out against Hitler, perhaps 60 million people need not have died.

Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:33 pm
by Dukasaur
notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?

It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.

The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:34 pm
by jgordon1111
notyou2 wrote:If more people stood up and spoke out against Hitler, perhaps 60 million people need not have died.

Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?


If the majority of Americans decide on a candidate, and they are wrong it is what it is and we have to figure our own way out of it, the past 2 decade's are an example of this, we have the right to f*ck ourselves if the majority decides it. That is called democracy. And to your point on endorsement, he disavowed the hate group multiple times, so a group unilaterally asking for help to attack him and his family is not an endorsement in any way, so unless the meaning of endorsement has changed not sure what you meant with that statement.
Explain please

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:39 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Dukasaur wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?

It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.

The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.

In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:51 pm
by Dukasaur
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?

It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.

The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.

In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.

Trump may be an asshole. That is not in dispute.

If you subvert the democratic process to muzzle people whom you consider to be assholes, you are sowing the seeds of that democracy's destruction. The very concept of liberal democracy is underpinned by the idea that everyone has a right to their opinion, and everyone has a right to express their opinion in the political arena and bring it to the attention of the voters.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:11 pm
by jgordon1111
Dukasaur wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?

It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.

The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.

In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.

Trump may be an asshole. That is not in dispute.

If you subvert the democratic process to muzzle people whom you consider to be assholes, you are sowing the seeds of that democracy's destruction. The very concept of liberal democracy is underpinned by the idea that everyone has a right to their opinion, and everyone has a right to express their opinion in the political arena and bring it to the attention of the voters.


And that was perfect Duk, I am not sure I have ever read a better definitive expression of what a democracy is supposed to be, I am of course a little bit concerned your a Canadian, ;)

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:53 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Dukasaur wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?

It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.

The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.

In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.

Trump may be an asshole. That is not in dispute.

If you subvert the democratic process to muzzle people whom you consider to be assholes, you are sowing the seeds of that democracy's destruction. The very concept of liberal democracy is underpinned by the idea that everyone has a right to their opinion, and everyone has a right to express their opinion in the political arena and bring it to the attention of the voters.

Not saying Anonymous is in the right or anything like that, but for me, this is not unexpected. I don't know how elections go on in Canada or other countries, but in the US, particularly the last few elections, most political ads (like, 99%, maybe more) are defamation ads. Trump has gone several steps further in inciting violence against people that don't agree with him, targeting minorities, and overall bigotry and hate in his speeches. As well as saying a lot of words without actually saying anything.

Anonymous has gone after the KKK, ISIS, and other groups for similar (and often, more violent) threats. So, while Trump may be running for office (as much as that sickens me, without even mentioning how far he has come), much of his rhetoric is similar to other groups that Anonymous has targeted in the past. And they were praised for it.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:02 am
by jgordon1111
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Trump will f*ck up everything he touches, just like he has in his own life. He will do the opposite of making America great again. If an anonymous group can help turn the tide, I have no issues with it. How is this any different than an endorsement from another politician or a celebrity, or the president?

It's very different. Anonymous is talking about bringing down his websites, etc. They're talking about destroying his ability to communicate with his fans, and besides the fact that it's illegal, it's also immoral.

The end does not justify the means. Bringing down Trump through dirty tricks -- whether it's Anonymous crashing his websites, Black Live Matter disrupting his rallies, or Mitt Romney buying off his delegates -- is a subversion of the democratic process. People who don't like Trump need to speak up and make a rational case against him. If the electorate chooses not to heed the voices of reason and elects him, so be it. They will get what they deserve. Self-appointed saviours cheating to prevent him from winning are enemies of fairness, due process, and democracy.

In all honesty, Trump's own rhetoric brought this on. He only has himself to blame for saying he would enact policies not dissimilar to that of Hitler back in 1930s Germany. I've actually been wondering if Anonymous would get involved. They've never taken kindly to such sentiments.

Trump may be an asshole. That is not in dispute.

If you subvert the democratic process to muzzle people whom you consider to be assholes, you are sowing the seeds of that democracy's destruction. The very concept of liberal democracy is underpinned by the idea that everyone has a right to their opinion, and everyone has a right to express their opinion in the political arena and bring it to the attention of the voters.

Not saying Anonymous is in the right or anything like that, but for me, this is not unexpected. I don't know how elections go on in Canada or other countries, but in the US, particularly the last few elections, most political ads (like, 99%, maybe more) are defamation ads. Trump has gone several steps further in inciting violence against people that don't agree with him, targeting minorities, and overall bigotry and hate in his speeches. As well as saying a lot of words without actually saying anything.

Anonymous has gone after the KKK, ISIS, and other groups for similar (and often, more violent) threats. So, while Trump may be running for office (as much as that sickens me, without even mentioning how far he has come), much of his rhetoric is similar to other groups that Anonymous has targeted in the past. And they were praised for it.


Your description of what has happened in elections in the past decade is correct,but again you can't praise them for trying to intervene in a democratic process, as much as anyone doesn't like a candidate it is how DEMOCRACY works, the people must decide, if not then democracy fails and we might as well just go back to letting the church or royalty rule, and history has already shown how well that works is working even today in some areas of the world. And if anonymous or anyone else thinks they can FORCE better results through threats and terror they and their supporters are sadly mistaken, terror was the very tactic used by Many of the very people they are pointing out as the reason they are doing this, Hitler,kkk,Isis,saddam Hussein,ayatollah Khomeini, the list goes on and on

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:00 pm
by muy_thaiguy
I'm not praising them. I just have general apathy towards the candidates in general in this election. But Trump earned a special spot for me with his remarks is all. So, it's not so much I'm rooting for Anonymous, but against Trump.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:27 pm
by jgordon1111
Well, I went kasich, but now impossible for him to make it, brokered convention my ass, not sure about general election, Cruz better hit high gear, like most feel about trump, I feel about billary, anybody but.except in contested convention if they put up Romney or Ryan then for the first time since i was 18 I may just say duck it, this is not the will of the people at all,this will be the will of the elite

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:34 pm
by Symmetry
jgordon1111 wrote:Well, I went kasich, but now impossible for him to make it, brokered convention my ass, not sure about general election, Cruz better hit high gear, like most feel about trump, I feel about billary, anybody but.except in contested convention if they put up Romney or Ryan then for the first time since i was 18 I may just say duck it, this is not the will of the people at all,this will be the will of the elite


I know I've called you out on the sexist crap about Clinton before, but "billary" (lower case and all) is a new one for me.

Re: Anonymous Declares War on Trump

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:49 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Symmetry wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Well, I went kasich, but now impossible for him to make it, brokered convention my ass, not sure about general election, Cruz better hit high gear, like most feel about trump, I feel about billary, anybody but.except in contested convention if they put up Romney or Ryan then for the first time since i was 18 I may just say duck it, this is not the will of the people at all,this will be the will of the elite


I know I've called you out on the sexist crap about Clinton before, but "billary" (lower case and all) is a new one for me.

Combination of Bill and Hillary Clinton. A lot of people do it with famous couples like that here, for some reason.