Conquer Club

This war is a part of the Newcomers Cup.

Wild Geese (WILDG) contact - [player]ga7[/player]
The New Crusade (TNC) contact - [player]tokle[/player]

Set 2 - The New Crusade Home

Quads
1.Game 8722971 WWII Ardennes, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
thunderhue, misher, dana1971, tokle vs ga7, topper, Bigragooch, jgalioto
2.Game 8722966 Forbidden City, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
ckyrias, AllanR, dana1971, BGtheBrain vs cazmart, banana_hammocks, ThrushAAX, _HiTMaN_
3.Game 8722956 WWII Gazala, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
Epitaph1, misher, dana1971, tokle vs _HiTMaN_, bonus_mop, topper, danalan
4.Game 8722931 Jamaica, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
tokle, BGtheBrain, Epitaph1, thunderhue vs Johnny Rico, Fircoal, 40kguy, cazmart
5.Game 8753127 D-Day, flat, chained, sunny: WILDG
Claudard, dazza2008, pretender77, thunderhue vs nagerous, danalan, bonus_mop, poorky
6.Game 8722916 New World, no spoils, chained, sunny: WILDG
mcshanester29, misher, thunderhue, tokle vs Bigragooch, jgalioto, Drew483, mali cimi
7.Game 8722899 American Civil war, no spoils, chained, sunny: WILDG
BGtheBrain, BlackKnight_6, mcshanester29, thunderhue vs nagerous, ga7, banana_hammocks, cazmart

Trips
1.Game 8728117 Soviet Union, esc, chained, foggy: WILDG
hammer1967, TheSaxlad, Claudard vs qwert, mali cimi, DimnjacarStef
2.Game 8728106 Das Schloss, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
Epitaph1, pricejam2, TheCrown vs Johnny Rico, Drew483, dakky21
3.Game 8728099 Supermax, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
TheCrown, BlackKnight_6, tokle vs nagerous, ThrushAAX, poptartpsycho18
4.Game 8722996 Stalingrad, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
ckyrias, TheCrown, tokle vs Johnny Rico, danalan, bonus_mop
5.Game 8722984 Jamaica, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
BlackKnight_6, tenbar, WinstonTurqhill vs Johnny Rico, Fircoal, 40kguy
6.Game 8722978 New World, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
tokle, Argaroth, thunderhue vs Bigragooch, jgalioto, topper
7.Game 8722973 Waterloo, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
Epitaph1, QoH, TheCrown vs DimnjacarStef, poptartpsycho18, 40kguy

Dubs
1.Game 8728131 Das Schloss, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
TheCrown, pricejam2 vs Johnny Rico, dakky21
2.Game 8728128 Forbidden City, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
ckyrias, TheCrown vs banana_hammocks, ThrushAAX
3.Game 8728126 Battle for Iraq, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
TheCrown, dana1971 vs nagerous, _HiTMaN_
4.Game 8728094 Feudal Epic, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
Ragian, dana1971 vs poptartpsycho18, dakky21
5.Game 8723034 Imperium Romanum, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
Argaroth, tokle vs poorky, starskiki
6.Game 8723028 England, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
BlackKnight_6 , Ragian vs mali cimi, dakky21
7.Game 8723014 Waterloo, no spoils, chained, foggy: TNC
QoH, TheCrown vs DimnjacarStef, topper

Tiebreaker
Game 8736364 Dubs, Supermax, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
tokle, TheCrown vs Bigragooch, jgalioto

[spoiler=Set 1 - Wild Geese Home - 16-5]Quads
1.Game 8628988 WWII Europe, esc, chained, sunny: WILDG
qwert, Drew483, ga7, banana_hammocks vs BlackKnight_6, ckyrias, TheSaxlad, belize
2.Game 8628995 Oceania, esc, chained, foggy: WILDG
qwert, dakky21, mali cimi, _HiTMaN_ vs belize, pretender77, tenbar, Clacie
3.Game 8629000 Battle for Iraq, no spoils, chained ,foggy: WILDG
nagerous, _HiTMaN, danalan, topper vs TheCrown, dana1971, ckyrias, Clacie:
4.Game 8629004 Brazil, esc, chained, foggy: WILDG
qwert, cazmart, poptartpsycho18, bonus_mop vs belize, BGtheBrain, Epitaph1, BlackKnight_6
5.Game 8629011 Solar System, esc, chained, sunny: WILDG
ga7, Drew483, starskiki, bonus_mop vs mcshanester29, TheSaxlad, noddy_nuts, ckyrias
6.Game 8629015 Supermax, no spoils, chained, foggy: WILDG
nagerous, Drew483, ThrushAAX, poptartpsycho18 vs tokle, TheCrown, TheSaxlad, BlackKnight_6
7. Game 8629017 Poison Rome, flat, chained, sunny: WILDG
Johnny Rico, 40kguy, poorky, starskiki vs belize, Epitaph1, thunderhue, pricejam2

Trips
1.Game 8629023 Imperium Romanum, esc, chained, foggy: WILDG
qwert, jgalioto, Johnny Rico vs belize, Argaroth, tokle
2.Game 8629034 Europe 1914, esc, chained, sunny: TNC
qwert, ThrushAAX, DimnjacarStef vs AllanR, dana1971, tokle
3.Game 8629039 Rail Australia, esc, chained, sunny: WILDG
Drew483, ga7, banana_hammocks vs BlackKnight_6, ckyrias, TheSaxlad
4.Game 8629092 Space, no spoils, chained, sunny: WILDG
ga7, nagerous, bonus_mop vs mcshanester29, ckyrias, shaunchef
5.Game 8629093 New World, flat, chained, foggy: WILDG
Bigragooch, jgalioto, Drew483 vs tokle, Argaroth, thunderhue
6.Game 8629096 Operation Drug War, no spoils, chained, sunny: WILDG
nagerous, Fircoal, Drew483 vs TheCrown, ckyrias, Clacie
7.Game 8629098 D-day, esc, chained, sunny: WILDG
_HiTMaN_, poorky, starskiki vs BlackKnight_6, tenbar, Claudard

Dubs
1.Game 8629108 Greater China, esc, chained, sunny: TNC
qwert, _HiTMaN_ vs BlackKnight_6, TheSaxlad
2.Game 8629115 New World, flat, chained, foggy: WILDG
Bigragooch, jgalioto vs Argaroth, tokle
3.Game 8629117 San Francisco, esc, chained, sunny: TNC
Fircoal, ga7 vs belize, Ragian
4.Game 8629122 Forbidden City, no spoils, chained, fog: TNC
Drew483, banana_hammocks vs TheCrown, ckyrias
5.Game 8629125 Ireland, flat, chained, sunny: TNC
Drew483, cazmart vs Argaroth, tokle
6.Game 8629127 Berlin 1961, esc, chained, sunny: WILDG
nagerous, ga7 vs TheCrown, pricejam2
7.Game 8629128 World 2.1, esc, chained, sunny: WILDG
ThrushAAX, Fircoal vs belize, Ragian[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Rules of engagement]1.43 total games: 14 doubles, 14 triples, 14 quads
2. Each clan member can only participate in 20 games per clan war
3. Wars are to be played in 2 sets:
1st set only home games from higher seeded clan
2nd set only home games from lower seeded clan
4.The 43rd game will be chosen by lower seeded clan
5.Each map can only be used twice per clan per clan war but can only be used once per game type (i.e. once for triples and once for quads)
6.There will be no freestyle, speed, manual deployments, beta maps, or nuclear spoils games allowed[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Schedule]WILDG Set: Saturday, March 5
T4C Set: Saturday March 19[/spoiler]
[spoiler=WILDG Players - Games Count]40kguy - 4
dakky21 - 4
danalan - 4
DimnjacarStef - 4
mali cimi - 4
poorky - 4
starskiki - 4
cazmart - 5
Fircoal - 5
poptartpsycho18 - 5
topper - 5
banana_hammocks - 6
Bigragooch - 6
bonus_mop - 6
Johnny Rico - 6
ThrushAAX - 6
jgalioto - 7
qwert - 7
_HiTMaN_ - 7
ga7 - 8
nagerous - 9
Drew483 - 10[/spoiler]
[spoiler=TNC Players - Games Count]shaunchef - 1
hammer1967 - 1
dazza2008 - 1
WinstonTurqhill - 1
noddy_nuts - 1
pretender77 - 2
AllanR - 2
QoH - 2
Claudard - 3
tenbar - 3
misher - 3
Clacie - 3
BGtheBrain - 4
pricejam2 - 4
mcshanester29 - 4
Ragian - 4
Argaroth - 6
TheSaxlad - 6
Epitaph1 - 6
belize - 7
dana1971 - 7
thunderhue - 8
ckyrias - 10
BlackKnight_6 - 10
TheCrown - 13
tokle - 14[/spoiler]

Good luck, and have fun.

This should be good, looking forward to it!

WG 26 T4C 17 Final!

using average score ranking i predict:
WG 55% win chance
T4C 45% win chance

Btw, both qwert and Bruce, wouldn't it be better (and easier) to put your predictions in the General Threads for both NC and CC, instead of these individual ones?

Anyway, T4C have been facing some stiff competition lately, but I'm still expecting WG to pour more misery upon them

what. does noone have any faith?

Yes weve played TOFU, TSM, OSA and Now WG. We are a hell of a lot stronger and more organised than when we first went up against KOTF or TIME as it was then. Now we are stronger and I believe we can beat WG. And the Spanking Monkis. They havent played for a while, but who knows?

A 40-10 loss in your last clan battle does not instill much confidence.

Also, what is with this? http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=8629092

Three of your men join the game and then an hour into the game, another one of the players takes the turn for the other guy, who supposedly just signed up. It's not even like he was away considering he posted in the forum not 2 hours later joining a tournament. This can only be described as obvious account sitting abuse.

Leehar wrote:Btw, both Eddie and Bruce, wouldn't it be better (and easier) to put your predictions in the General Threads for both NC and CC, instead of these individual ones?

Anyway, T4C have been facing some stiff competition lately, but I'm still expecting WG to pour more misery upon them

why is my name involved in this i did not post.

nagerous wrote:A 40-10 loss in your last clan battle does not instill much confidence.

Also, what is with this? http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=8629092

Three of your men join the game and then an hour into the game, another one of the players takes the turn for the other guy, who supposedly just signed up. It's not even like he was away considering he posted in the forum not 2 hours later joining a tournament. This can only be described as obvious account sitting abuse.

a similar case has been dealt with before in c and a
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=132513&hilit=bogangod&start=45

Actually Shaunchef, joined the game about a day ago when It was sent out, the day before he went on business (Today) he joined it as he didnt expect to be the first turn.

obviously he was and shanester took his turn for him. No abuse there.

nagerous wrote:A 40-10 loss in your last clan battle does not instill much confidence.

How about a big lead against OSA. That instills me with a lot of confidence. And anyway I count the 40-10 more as a learning loss than an actual oh we challenged them cause we thought we were going to pwn them, and then got pwned.

EDIT: Our actual last clan battle was a 22-18 loss to RA. A lot closer than 40-10.

the saxlad,can you kick your guys in ass to finaly start games?

TheSaxlad wrote:Actually Shaunchef, joined the game about a day ago when It was sent out, the day before he went on business (Today) he joined it as he didnt expect to be the first turn.

obviously he was and shanester took his turn for him. No abuse there.

nagerous wrote:A 40-10 loss in your last clan battle does not instill much confidence.

How about a big lead against OSA. That instills me with a lot of confidence. And anyway I count the 40-10 more as a learning loss than an actual oh we challenged them cause we thought we were going to pwn them, and then got pwned.

EDIT: Our actual last clan battle was a 22-18 loss to RA. A lot closer than 40-10.

Nothing to do with shaunchef, he was an innocent in this - what I can't understand is how the game began at 3.30am, mc took cky's turn at 4.30am and then cky posted signing up for a tournament at 6am. Why did mc take cky's turn? Cky was not away, this is just account sitting abuse..

qwert wrote:using average score ranking i predict:
WG 55% win chance
T4C 45% win chance

i predict we will dominate them. 90% us 10% them

qwert wrote:the saxlad,can you kick your guys in ass to finaly start games?

we are in the process of joining at the moment. If I read the newcomers cup right, we actually dont have to start until about 4 days time. home games had to be out by today and we have 4 days to join.

Good luck, dudes. I will be account sitting for the entire roster of both clans during this war and have a nice .500 record by the end.

TheSaxlad wrote:

qwert wrote:the saxlad,can you kick your guys in ass to finaly start games?

we are in the process of joining at the moment. If I read the newcomers cup right, we actually dont have to start until about 4 days time. home games had to be out by today and we have 4 days to join.

hurry up i want to beat you twice.

nagerous wrote:

TheSaxlad wrote:Actually Shaunchef, joined the game about a day ago when It was sent out, the day before he went on business (Today) he joined it as he didnt expect to be the first turn.

obviously he was and shanester took his turn for him. No abuse there.

nagerous wrote:A 40-10 loss in your last clan battle does not instill much confidence.

How about a big lead against OSA. That instills me with a lot of confidence. And anyway I count the 40-10 more as a learning loss than an actual oh we challenged them cause we thought we were going to pwn them, and then got pwned.

EDIT: Our actual last clan battle was a 22-18 loss to RA. A lot closer than 40-10.

Nothing to do with shaunchef, he was an innocent in this - what I can't understand is how the game began at 3.30am, mc took cky's turn at 4.30am and then cky posted signing up for a tournament at 6am. Why did mc take cky's turn? Cky was not away, this is just account sitting abuse..

I was taking some of cky's turns because he just had a baby and has been missing turns lately. Next time why don't you ask me instead of going on a rant about it.

mcshanester29 wrote:

nagerous wrote:

TheSaxlad wrote:Actually Shaunchef, joined the game about a day ago when It was sent out, the day before he went on business (Today) he joined it as he didnt expect to be the first turn.

obviously he was and shanester took his turn for him. No abuse there.

nagerous wrote:A 40-10 loss in your last clan battle does not instill much confidence.

How about a big lead against OSA. That instills me with a lot of confidence. And anyway I count the 40-10 more as a learning loss than an actual oh we challenged them cause we thought we were going to pwn them, and then got pwned.

EDIT: Our actual last clan battle was a 22-18 loss to RA. A lot closer than 40-10.

Nothing to do with shaunchef, he was an innocent in this - what I can't understand is how the game began at 3.30am, mc took cky's turn at 4.30am and then cky posted signing up for a tournament at 6am. Why did mc take cky's turn? Cky was not away, this is just account sitting abuse..

I was taking some of cky's turns because he just had a baby and has been missing turns lately. Next time why don't you ask me instead of going on a rant about it.

i will back nag up on this one. fair enough that is the comment you have left (congrates to him on the new member of the family) but you are online just now meaning you should of played his shot at this time. sitters are only allowed to play if a player is in danger of missing, this is not 1 hour into his shot. Also i agree he should not of posted it in this thread (i made that mistake with time he should of went straight to a c and a report.)and ps since there is a player usage limit in the challenges he should not be taking part in it. if your comment is correct that he is missing his turns a lot, it can be looked at 2 ways.

1) it was a genuine mistake

or

2) the clan is trying to work the player usage system.

eddie2 wrote:

mcshanester29 wrote:

nagerous wrote:

TheSaxlad wrote:Actually Shaunchef, joined the game about a day ago when It was sent out, the day before he went on business (Today) he joined it as he didnt expect to be the first turn.

obviously he was and shanester took his turn for him. No abuse there.

nagerous wrote:A 40-10 loss in your last clan battle does not instill much confidence.

How about a big lead against OSA. That instills me with a lot of confidence. And anyway I count the 40-10 more as a learning loss than an actual oh we challenged them cause we thought we were going to pwn them, and then got pwned.

EDIT: Our actual last clan battle was a 22-18 loss to RA. A lot closer than 40-10.

Nothing to do with shaunchef, he was an innocent in this - what I can't understand is how the game began at 3.30am, mc took cky's turn at 4.30am and then cky posted signing up for a tournament at 6am. Why did mc take cky's turn? Cky was not away, this is just account sitting abuse..

I was taking some of cky's turns because he just had a baby and has been missing turns lately. Next time why don't you ask me instead of going on a rant about it.

i will back nag up on this one. fair enough that is the comment you have left (congrates to him on the new member of the family) but you are online just now meaning you should of played his shot at this time. sitters are only allowed to play if a player is in danger of missing this is not 1 hour into his shot.

Eddie there is no need to back nagerous up. This is a dispute between two clans that are NOT your own. We will sort this out between ourselves. Please dont stick your nose into this business again eddie, otherwise your just going to end up getting yourself reported for trolling again.

how the hell am i trolling, i looked through all the nc cup to see what sets were getting put out. i then seen that there was a case similar to the one time had via another clan so i made one comment highlighting it is given a noted in c and a. i then come back to see what responses had been made to my comment and see you are acting the same as what happened in times challenge.

mcshanester29 wrote:

nagerous wrote:

TheSaxlad wrote:Actually Shaunchef, joined the game about a day ago when It was sent out, the day before he went on business (Today) he joined it as he didnt expect to be the first turn.

obviously he was and shanester took his turn for him. No abuse there.

nagerous wrote:A 40-10 loss in your last clan battle does not instill much confidence.

How about a big lead against OSA. That instills me with a lot of confidence. And anyway I count the 40-10 more as a learning loss than an actual oh we challenged them cause we thought we were going to pwn them, and then got pwned.

EDIT: Our actual last clan battle was a 22-18 loss to RA. A lot closer than 40-10.

Nothing to do with shaunchef, he was an innocent in this - what I can't understand is how the game began at 3.30am, mc took cky's turn at 4.30am and then cky posted signing up for a tournament at 6am. Why did mc take cky's turn? Cky was not away, this is just account sitting abuse..

I was taking some of cky's turns because he just had a baby and has been missing turns lately. Next time why don't you ask me instead of going on a rant about it.

That's not the point. Taking a fellow player's turn 1 hour into the turn is not fair, you should at least watch the clock until he is in danger of missing. If he is so busy then he should probably also stop signing up to tournaments? I believe the rules will be clarified to you guys for what has happened in this incident.

Anyway, as for this particular game unless any other express decision from higher authorities we shall continue onwards.

I don't think the Fourth Crusade clan is trying to work the player usage system. LOL, I don't know if we even know how to do that.

This was a mistake. It has been clarified, from what I can read above. I know that messages are being sent back and forth between the leaders and it's being examined. It shouldn't happen again. I'm glad you're up for continuing onwards which seems to be the most sensible decision at this point.

Let's get back to the business of guessing who will win and by how many games. And enjoying the war, which is what this is all about.

Good luck to our opponents!

Right, seeing the circumstances it does sound like a honest mistake, and likely won't mean a thing in terms of players usage, so let's keep all that hotheadedness and roam the battlefields instead
Will update the thread when all games are joined. GL!

Game 8629108

T4C draw first blood 1-0 T4C

Hah, first blood was actually in this game: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=8629096
Updated!