Conquer Club

Well America, is it true? Do you really hate the rest of the world as much as I am led to believe or is that just the "popular image"?

WRONGO!
The rest of the world WORSHIPS the US.

That's right, you too UK and Canada! Cheeky bastards.

If the US was on fire, I wouldn't piss on it.

Pedronicus wrote:If the US was on fire, I wouldn't piss on it.

If the US was in my front garden, I'd shut the curtains.

yes.

I love the rest of the world!

Rest of the world??? what are you talking about I'm confused??? I thought America was all there was? oh! I know, I think you meant to write "does America really hate the rest of America" That makes more sense.

Caleb the Cruel wrote:Well America, is it true? Do you really hate the rest of the world as much as I am led to believe or is that just the "popular image"?

Outside of the United States, I have only visited Puerto Rico, Rwanda, Afghanistan, Panama, Costa Rica, the various western European nations, Albania, and Macedonia. Of those, Rwanda was a shithole and Albania and Afghanistan weren't particularly nice...all situations that can easily be explained by the situation that was ongoing there at those respective times. Of everywhere else, I loved the locations with the one exception that I found Parisians to be...well, assholes, basically. Not a few of them...quite frankly almost to a person (of those I interacted with). I certainly wouldn't say I hated Parisians...but Paris would be a lot nicer without them. Probably a lot like New York.

Woodruff wrote:

Caleb the Cruel wrote:Well America, is it true? Do you really hate the rest of the world as much as I am led to believe or is that just the "popular image"?

Outside of the United States, I have only visited Puerto Rico, Rwanda, Afghanistan, Panama, Costa Rica, the various western European nations, Albania, and Macedonia. Of those, Rwanda was a shithole and Albania and Afghanistan weren't particularly nice...all situations that can easily be explained by the situation that was ongoing there at those respective times. Of everywhere else, I loved the locations with the one exception that I found Parisians to be...well, assholes, basically. Not a few of them...quite frankly almost to a person (of those I interacted with). I certainly wouldn't say I hated Parisians...but Paris would be a lot nicer without them. Probably a lot like New York.

Peurto Rico is part of the USA.

Parisians hate you cause you don't speak french( i assume). They loved me.

Baron Von PWN wrote:
Peurto Rico is part of the USA.

no it isn't. it is an unincorporated organized territory. It is not protected by the constitution (unincorporated), but we determine how it is governed (organized territory)

Now on the opposite side you have the only incorporated unorganized territory, Palmyra Atoll. It is under the protection of the Constitution (incorporated), but there is no decision on how it should be governed (unorganized territory).

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freewillhunting wrote:

Baron Von PWN wrote:
Peurto Rico is part of the USA.

no it isn't. it is an unincorporated organized territory. It is not protected by the constitution (unincorporated), but we determine how it is governed (organized territory)

Now on the opposite side you have the only incorporated unorganized territory, Palmyra Atoll. It is under the protection of the Constitution (incorporated), but there is no decision on how it should be governed (unorganized territory).

hmm interesting. do they elect their own representatives or what have you?

Baron Von PWN wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Caleb the Cruel wrote:Well America, is it true? Do you really hate the rest of the world as much as I am led to believe or is that just the "popular image"?

Outside of the United States, I have only visited Puerto Rico, Rwanda, Afghanistan, Panama, Costa Rica, the various western European nations, Albania, and Macedonia. Of those, Rwanda was a shithole and Albania and Afghanistan weren't particularly nice...all situations that can easily be explained by the situation that was ongoing there at those respective times. Of everywhere else, I loved the locations with the one exception that I found Parisians to be...well, assholes, basically. Not a few of them...quite frankly almost to a person (of those I interacted with). I certainly wouldn't say I hated Parisians...but Paris would be a lot nicer without them. Probably a lot like New York.

Peurto Rico is part of the USA.

True enough, but not for purposes of military overseas duty assignments, which is the experience I'm using for the descriptor. It is considered an "overseas" duty assignment, just as Alaska and Hawaii are.

Baron Von PWN wrote:Parisians hate you cause you don't speak french( i assume). They loved me.

Close, but not quite. I didn't speak French WELL. I was told a couple of times something along the lines of "If you'll please stop butchering our language, I will speak English." Of course, they wouldn't do so until I had essentially embarrassed myself sufficiently that they could look down their noses disdainfully at me for it.

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Baron Von PWN wrote:

freewillhunting wrote:

Baron Von PWN wrote:
Peurto Rico is part of the USA.

no it isn't. it is an unincorporated organized territory. It is not protected by the constitution (unincorporated), but we determine how it is governed (organized territory)

Now on the opposite side you have the only incorporated unorganized territory, Palmyra Atoll. It is under the protection of the Constitution (incorporated), but there is no decision on how it should be governed (unorganized territory).

hmm interesting. do they elect their own representatives or what have you?

We elect our own Governor and legislature to govern the island. We don't really have representation in Washington: we have a non-voting "Resident commissioner" in Congress, whom we also elect. We don't get to vote for the president, but the democratic party has a Puerto Rico primary, so democrats here help choose the democratic candidate.

The upside of not having representation in DC is that we don't pay federal income tax ("No taxation w/o representation" is a founding principle of the U.S.)

Technically it is an "associated free state" (Estado Libre Asociado) but in my opinion that's just an ego-soothing term for colony or territory.

PR was a crown colony of Spain since Columbus, gradually winning autonomy to run its own affairs, finally really achieving that state about a year before Spain lost it to the US in the Spanish-American War (1898) Then they had to start all over again as a colony with governors chosen for them. In the Wilson administration they negotiated the current status.

Like I said, we elect our own government and have our own constitution, but it can be overruled if there is a conflict w/ US law. Puerto Ricans are born US citizens, are eligible for most of the benefits (we do pay SS & FICA), and are eligible for the US military, which could be considered a plus or a minus.

What I like best about PR (as you might expect) is that here in the schools and at public meetings we can pray. The other thing is the beauty. The sky is just more beautiful from here: sunrises, sunsets, clouds by day and stars by night -- all are more intense here than where I come from.

The downside is that the schools suck, the utilities are unreliable (The power goes out when it rains too hard, I guess an average of once every 2-4 weeks, but sometimes for a few hours 4 or 5 days in a row) and the government frequently works like a banana republic: you have to have a friend or preferably a cousin inside to get anything done.

Like Switzerland and Liechtenstein\Lichtinstein

daddy1gringo wrote:We don't get to vote for the president, but the democratic party has a Puerto Rico primary, so democrats here help choose the democratic candidate.

I don't understand this at all. First of all, I think it's stupid to have Puerto Rico vote for President given that they're not officially a state, however that's just my personal opinion. But aside from that, IF you're going to be allowed to vote in a primary, why not in the Presidential election? Why would there be a distinction...that seems equally stupid to me.

daddy1gringo wrote:What I like best about PR (as you might expect) is that here in the schools and at public meetings we can pray. The other thing is the beauty. The sky is just more beautiful from here: sunrises, sunsets, clouds by day and stars by night -- all are more intense here than where I come from.

Puerto Rico is beautiful, that's for sure. That's where I first snorkeled.

tonbomorphew wrote:Parisans Love me because i play soccer\football and speak french and am not a amerikaner

They love me because I'm handsome

Haha!

Woodruff wrote:

daddy1gringo wrote:We don't get to vote for the president, but the democratic party has a Puerto Rico primary, so democrats here help choose the democratic candidate.

I don't understand this at all. First of all, I think it's stupid to have Puerto Rico vote for President given that they're not officially a state, however that's just my personal opinion. But aside from that, IF you're going to be allowed to vote in a primary, why not in the Presidential election? Why would there be a distinction...that seems equally stupid to me.

Well, yeah. It doesn't have to make sense because it's decided by 2 different entities. Who votes for president is decided by the US government, and evidently they agree w/ you (Sure no taxation w/o representation, but no representation w/o taxation either) Who votes in the Democratic primary is decided by the DNC, who always want to be liberal and inclusive, and include more people who will almost certainly vote for more gov't welfare entitlement programs.

Caleb the Cruel wrote:Well America, is it true? Do you really hate the rest of the world as much as I am led to believe or is that just the "popular image"?

I believe you have a typo. Replace hate with rule.

We do not hate the world. We RULE the world and love our foot stools.

really?

hi i'm not dead just a tech difficulty

We're all very sad to hear about that.