Friends & Enemies & Enemies & That Other Guy - Wolves Won

[Charle]

I'm going to continue because I don't want to spoil the game for Charle and for most of you...
Charle keep the good job...

Thanks Pepe, I appreciate. This is a very, very long day!

[Loose Canon]

Nah, I'm reading that as a bullshit scum move to remove me.

Unvote vote pmc

It's the same shit i dealt with with a scum Rag.

FFS scummy rags are what you get when you clean out a Dirty Dish.
Is this a bit of Soap opera theatrics, or are you serious?
There's nothing on Pmc he looks clean - doesn't need no Slippy Soppy Soapy vote.
We have two perfectly viable lynch candidates.

Next play is probably on PMC though.

[Loose Canon]

I'm going to continue because I don't want to spoil the game for Charle and for most of you...
Charle keep the good job...

Thanks Pepe, I appreciate. This is a very, very long day!

Great Charlie's posted his oh I was tired alibi for his next miscount.

Keep awake / wake up everyone, specifically Charle

[pmchugh]

Nah, I'm reading that as a bullshit scum move to remove me.

Unvote vote pmc

It's the same shit i dealt with with a scum Rag.

Whats funny about this is is that I posted my primary evidence that I thought you were town lol.

[pmchugh]

I guess I didn't make that super clear, but in essence you townslipped. The fact that you didn't recognise that from my post, makes it clear it wasn't deliberate. DDS cannot be with EW.

Maybe I just vote for Pepe because I don't see how anyone else is with EW.

[Charle]

Vote Count:

Sonic (1) - Max
Pepe (2) - LC, Sonic
PMC (1) - DDS
Max (1) - Pepe

No Vote (1) - PMC

With 6 alive - 4 Needed for a lynch, phew!

[Loose Canon]

I guess I didn't make that super clear, but in essence you townslipped. The fact that you didn't recognise that from my post, makes it clear it wasn't deliberate. DDS cannot be with EW.

Maybe I just vote for Pepe because I don't see how anyone else is with EW.

I'm not getting it clear that it wasn't deliberate by DDS - but I'm not seeing any chink in town armour either.
It was something weird or unusual from DDS thats all I'm getting.

With Pepe and Sonic, with both its like seeing waves of suspicion, sometimes I'm seeing them higher on Pepe sometimes I'm seeing them higher on Sonic, but in each case they lap over my burden of proof line in my sand. For me the tide is slightly higher in Pepes case.

But then I'm thinking what would be the outcome of a mislynch on Pepe vs a mislynch on Sonic look like.

Sonic would I think run confusion D4 (and it might work) but I can't work out what he would do N3, nor what the other scum would do.
And I have no idea what Pepe would do N3 , but would find it harder to win D4.

But then again is it actually worth trying to work out the relative consequences of a mislynch on one vs the other - I'm not sure it is.
And it definitely wouldn't be worth it if both are scum of course.

[PepeAtila]

I think Pepe you feel you'd be letting down Charle yes but also your teammate if you quit the game.

Please don't make me write what I think about you ...
If you mean by teammate Sonic, DDS, Max and PMC,... yes also because of them...

I can't be you're teammate if your scum.

with that meaning if I'am scum I have not teammate now, also if you are scum.

But just to change unvote Max vote PMC

[pmchugh]

Going to try clear up what I meant with the DDS post one more time.

DDS makes a post saying there might be one Werewolf. This is obviously impossible given the setup. So, he cannot be a Werewolf, because if he was, he would also know there was more than one.

It also makes him slightly less likely to be mafia, because then he would have been paired with Traf and talking strategy with him. Traf demonstrated knowledge of multiple werewolves. This is less clear cut, because we were also talking about that in the thread, so if he is missing one he could miss the other.

There is a possibility someone could fake this post, but based on DDSs inability to see my post as positive of him it seems even more unlikely than it already was.

[pmchugh]

I simultaneously feel like the most obvious townie I have ever appeared and that I am going to be lynched at lylo.

Anyone who wants to case me should respond to how my first post of the game was to call traf obvious scum, and how I encouraged the mafia to kill EW.

[PepeAtila]

Ok, this is what will happen then, let's look at the "Win Conditions" as per the setup link on the first page:

Scum Win Condition: You win when the other scumteam is eliminated and you control 50% of the town or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Town Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

1. So if you end up with 3 players end of night (town cannot win anymore), those 3 players decide who to lynch, if they lynch town, then a draw between scum, if they lynch scum, then the other scum wins. If there is a no lynch (no majority vote), then a draw between scum. (so scum better make friends with town )

2. If you end up with 3 players end of day, if both scum kill town then it is a draw between scum, if they kill each other then town wins, obviously if they kill town and scum then the other scum wins.

Reading the wiki I have had some doubts, and first of all I think there can't be ties...
Town - "You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive."
Scum - "You win when the other scumteam is eliminated and you control 50% of the town or nothing can prevent this from occurring.".

So a scum team cannot win if the other team still alive so if both teams still alive they don't win.

example
I think if there are 1 town, 1 wolf and 1 mafia : if they lynch the town this night they will kill each other and there are no winner. (or the 3 teams tie).

[Loose Canon]

I'm not able to read whether it was a genuine or fake post - dont see how you can.
Bear in mind though - for now I'll leave open to you the possibility it was a masonic signal, whether mason to mason, or town imagining what a masonic signal looks like to mason.
Also I'll say Masons are talking but not continuously - I'm obviously not checking most of my moves with the other mason before posting - the same applies vice versa.
All I'll say is if fake - why - I don't get that.

Think DDS (or his sword) wants attention though.

FP'd by PMC and Pepe

It would be bad play to lynch PMC - not saying whether thats because I think he is Town/no reason to suspect him, but leaving open the possibility he is mason too.

[Loose Canon]

Which is mightier the Sword of Attilla or the Sword of DDS?

Both wish to strike PMC with it.

Could be a game of Pinata with PMC the paper donkey?

[Loose Canon]

Pinata would be fun DDS, but whats really on your menu today?

Kentucky Fried Hedgehog
Kentucky Fried Paella

Either could be eaten somewhat awkwardly with sword and fork.

[SoN!c]

Hedgehogs carry diseases, such as ringworm, rabiës and salmonella. You will get sick, both in body as in mind, even thinking on consuming one. Therefore considering eating a stinged loaded hog one should be approached with severe caution warning penalties as it might result in deadly overdose symptoms, considering legal torture problems in the near or rear future and at best severe health problems when burping, next to a possible dark alley reckoning, getting hedgehoged in the dirty hole. Perhaps if your hungry like a wolf? No, not even a wolf would touch a mad hedgehog running loose. Besides the mad hedgehog is the town pet. And the mob makes to much money on illegal hedgehog pit fights using them as they see fit.

No, only dumb fools would consider eating the town pet.

[PepeAtila]

Which is mightier the Sword of Attilla or the Sword of DDS?

Both wish to strike PMC with it.

Could be a game of Pinata with PMC the paper donkey?

It is incredible!
My 2 main suspects are Max and PMC, do you think you can make me believe both are the Mason?
Because one of them (or both) are not.
You cannot always avoid people disagree with your suspects.

You only accept people votes for me or for Sonic, and I desagree ... you like it or you don't like it.

[PepeAtila]

Pinata would be fun DDS, but whats really on your menu today?

Kentucky Fried Hedgehog
Kentucky Fried Paella

Either could be eaten somewhat awkwardly with sword and fork.

Spanish paella can be eaten without sword ... a fork is enough.

[SoN!c]

Pepe has a good point. We never searched "mason labeled" players and by now the Masons are: Loose, DDS, Max and PMC (and +1 more spare).

Look without Loose and his real mystery mason (so obvious who it is btw) no lynch is gonna happen anyway.

But best read of today (and hilarious funny was this one): "I'll leave open to you the possibility it was a masonic signal (from DDS) whether mason to mason, or town imagining what a masonic signal looks like to mason."

Confuse town even more. Just get it over with so we can see if Pepe flips town or scum. Its getting supercrazy in here. 5 masons here ffs.

"I'll leave open to you the possibility it was a masonic signal, whether mason to mason, or town imagining what a masonic signal looks like to mason. "

Earth: Say whaaaat??? Loose Moon to earth, say that again??

Loose Moon: "I hear you Earth and repeat, i 'll leave open to you the possibility it was a masonic signal, whether mason to mason, or town imagining what a masonic signal looks like to mason." We have interference on our mason daily pm chat so we are sending code words. I repeat: The coocoo is red. I repeat the coocoo is red. The coocoo nest is compromised, i repeat the coo..%€€€.....€%^%€€^(rest of message all garbled up).

[pmchugh]

Which is mightier the Sword of Attilla or the Sword of DDS?

Both wish to strike PMC with it.

Could be a game of Pinata with PMC the paper donkey?

It is incredible!
My 2 main suspects are Max and PMC, do you think you can make me believe both are the Mason?
Because one of them (or both) are not.
You cannot always avoid people disagree with your suspects.

You only accept people votes for me or for Sonic, and I desagree ... you like it or you don't like it.

This stubbornness is something. I really think sonic is a better lynch than Pepe.

I also think it's important to not reveal the last mason, whatever tactical advantages it gives us now. Imagine we get to tomorrow and loose gets replaced by a spare mason and we have two players who can corroborate each other?

[SoN!c]

I guess I didn't make that super clear, but in essence you townslipped. The fact that you didn't recognise that from my post, makes it clear it wasn't deliberate. DDS cannot be with EW.

Maybe I just vote for Pepe because I don't see how anyone else is with EW.

This was funny too: why is Traf not mentioned here hmmmm?

[SoN!c]

And lastly: after rereading i don't think its possible that you had Traf and EW right from the first pages. Only when one of them is your scumpartner who informed you, you could have know that.

And you also knew you could disconnect with your scumparter there because what did you really say on them both? A little joke nothing more - "a helpful EW is a scum EW" and "Traf asking confirmation on set-up is a scum Traf".

Thats all. And that followed with another string of posts ending with "ITS RAG!" So any little FoS to Traf and EW was already sanded.


Unvote

Vote PMC

[DirtyDishSoap]

Unvote before someone fast hammers that.

[SoN!c]

Loose: 3 votes on PMC. 2 are 100% town. 3rd is a scum yes. But that means this vote has highest probability to hit scum and thats all we need to do today. Only with a town mislynch we are doomed.

3 votes means your last 2 townies have to be on this here if you think im scum. And im town so 2 votes means the other town is 100% voting with me. Cant see it any other way really, in any case the 2 town are in here so Pmc must be scum. 100% Do the math yourself and act. 2 town have to be in on this. It makes 0 sense to have 2 scum in here knowing what you need to do to win.

Fp by DDS lmao

[Loose Canon]

unvote Pepe vote Sonic

[SoN!c]

Lol, you need to untunnel. Your mad because i call you stupid. But what does someone need to do around here to get into your thick skull?

Sounds familiar?