Conquer Club

Posted: **Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:04 pm**

derfderf34 wrote:
Stroop wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:
william18 wrote:Ace is a hazard to me. Please lynch him.

we cannot waste a lynch on him.

Plus, if we lynch ace, blue cult just kills will and they're the only cult left.

Will, you'll just have to trust on ace not to kill you

this is good for the town though
it would be town against one cult and the town would have the advantage
the current number of cult members is assumed that every one is successful there should be unsuccessful ones by now

Not at all good, like Suspect explained.

This, on top of the bandwagoning through the entire game warrants a vote derf

Suspect101 wrote:Stroop could you have been recruited by the red cult?

Yes, I'm not unrecruitable in any way.

Posted: **Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:11 pm**

Questions:
1. Why in the world would ace tell us that he was recruited by the green cult last night? Does he not want to win?
2. Is it possible that ace was actually recruited by the blue cult but is pretending to be recruited by the green cult to avoid being lynched? Without investigating him or an actual green cult member coming forward there would be know way we would know right?

Stroop wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Agree that the blue psychologist should not come forward, but the green one should.

Assuming that he wasn't recruited...

How would that stop him from coming forward? Unless he was recruited early on, gained a different role as a result, and then was killed under that role. (In essence was thezzaruz) He could still come forward if he was cult and claim to be the role he once was...

Posted: **Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:16 pm**

Stroop wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:
william18 wrote:Ace is a hazard to me. Please lynch him.

we cannot waste a lynch on him.

Plus, if we lynch ace, blue cult just kills will and they're the only cult left.

Will, you'll just have to trust on ace not to kill you

Don't we have a doctor? Anyway, if we pick someone randomly, there's a great chance of thme being blue.

Random.org everyone besides:

Stroop
William
ace
Suspect

Posted: **Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:17 pm**

spiesr wrote:Questions:
1. Why in the world would ace tell us that he was recruited by the green cult last night? Does he not want to win?
2. Is it possible that ace was actually recruited by the blue cult but is pretending to be recruited by the green cult to avoid being lynched? Without investigating him or an actual green cult member coming forward there would be know way we would know right?
Stroop wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Agree that the blue psychologist should not come forward, but the green one should.

Assuming that he wasn't recruited...
How would that stop him from coming forward? Unless he was recruited early on, gained a different role as a result, and then was killed under that role. (In essence was thezzaruz) He could still come forward if he was cult and claim to be the role he once was...

or maybe he thought he could get the same deal me and / did.

Posted: **Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:44 pm**

Although Ace does seem suspicious for claiming when there was no pressure he also has no real strong motive to lie. Also, although he claims to do this everygame he does bandwagon a lot. I will Vote Derfderf as I have at the start of the past few days now.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:38 am**

spiesr wrote:Questions:
1. Why in the world would ace tell us that he was recruited by the green cult last night? Does he not want to win?
2. Is it possible that ace was actually recruited by the blue cult but is pretending to be recruited by the green cult to avoid being lynched? Without investigating him or an actual green cult member coming forward there would be know way we would know right?

1. Who knows what ace thought when he posted that

2. It's possible, but he revealed himself to the green cult if that's the case, and assuming pmc didn't suck at recruiting there should be at least one green cultist that will want to kill ace tonight.

Stroop wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Agree that the blue psychologist should not come forward, but the green one should.

Assuming that he wasn't recruited...

How would that stop him from coming forward? Unless he was recruited early on, gained a different role as a result, and then was killed under that role. (In essence was thezzaruz) He could still come forward if he was cult and claim to be the role he once was...[/quote]
Good point :-$

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:50 am**

I'll put it this way. Town needs me alive to win this, because otherwise you don't get a chance to kill one of blue and you lose due to being outnumbered.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:02 am**

We have suspect, He is a blue cult investigator isn't he? If we don't lynch derf then suspect should investigate him.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:19 am**

captainwalrus wrote:We have suspect, He is a blue cult investigator isn't he? If we don't lynch derf then suspect should investigate him.

Technically we have three. Me, william, and suspect. I can't kill town, but I can kill cult. William searches for any cult, and suspect looks for blue.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:26 am**

william18 wrote:Don't we have a doctor?

Not necessarily.

ace1217 wrote:I'll put it this way. Town needs me alive to win this, because otherwise you don't get a chance to kill one of blue and you lose due to being outnumbered.

Not necessarily, you are like a redundant version of Suspect101 with regards to your abilities at this point. Expect you can't investigate, the cult could more easily kill you, and you don't have a town aligned win condition so you can't be trusted later in the game.

william18 wrote:if we pick someone randomly, there's a great chance of thme being blue.
Random.org everyone besides:

Why would we start by picking someone randomly? We have the past three days of evidence to look at; surely we could find someone scummy looking in there?

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:53 am**

spiesr wrote:surely we could find someone scummy looking in there?

DERFDERF!

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:55 am**

captainwalrus is right. Derfderf has been writing cult on his forehead since day 1 (which would mean he's a cult leader).

I'll even make a fancy case when I get back from getting coffee.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:40 am**

Stroop wrote:captainwalrus is right. Derfderf has been writing cult on his forehead since day 1 (which would mean he's a cult leader).

I'll even make a fancy case when I get back from getting coffee.

Vote derfderf

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:42 am**

Yeah, I guess he has been rather scummy.
I will say this though, bandwagon appears to be his general strategy in all his games.
This of course in no way means he is not cult here.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:58 am**

derfderf34 wrote:Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game

derf wants to lynch town power roles...

derfderf34 wrote:we are saying that it is possible for kage to already be in a cult

This is on day 1. Derf says he thinks it's very possible for a specialist role like kage's (now Suspect) to already be cult. Considering what Nate reveals about the setup in the intro and the fact that would mean the town was screwed from day 1, it was just not plausible at all. To me, it looks like cult trying to create confusion about the setup.

derfderf34 wrote:i still think that it is possible for cults to start with two members (3 of the nine special could be cult)

And he persists even though it has been explained that it's highly unlikely.

derfderf34 wrote:Yes ace has acted strange I saw that we lynch him and if he comes up cult we lynch nag if he comes up the role he claime we lynch kage

Derf persists in wanting to lynch town power roles by saying: "If ace comes up a town power role, we should lynch kage who claimed to be the same power role.".

derfderf34 wrote:unvote vote mpjh(i had already fosed and will unvote if gets closer to a lynch

This vote is useless if derf really intended to unvote later. mpjh had already claimed so there wouldn't be any more info to be gained from pressure. Derf is just cautiously stepping onto a bandwagon.

pmchugh wrote:Now to the bandwaggons:

Natewolfman wrote:kagetora - 8 votes (Stroop, LSU Tiger Josh, spiesr, spaceghst44, pmchugh, sheepofdumb, Thezzaruz, derfderf34)

Natewolfman wrote:space_ghst_44 - 11 votes (animorpherv1, Thezzaruz, captainwalrus, mpjh, pmchugh, kagetora, /, Haggis_McMutton, derfderf34, sheepofdumb, spaceghst44)

mpjh- before mod kill- 5 (stroop, thez, derf, speisr, sheepofdumb)

Natewolfman wrote:animorpherv1 - 11 votes (/, sheepofdumb, ace1217, Juan_Bottom, william18, Thezzaruz, spiesr, derfderf34, LSU Tiger Josh, Stroop, norsemsn1066)

BW count
william18- 1
pmchugh- 2
/- 2
ace1217- 1
LSU Tiger Josh -2
Iliad- 0
norsemsn1066- 1
Stroop- 1
sheepofdumb- 4
derfderf34- 4
nagerous- 0
farside22- 0
Haggis_McMutton- 1
spiesr- 3
Thezzaruz- 3
Juan_Bottom- 0
captainwalrus- 1
kagetora- 1

derf was on all four bandwagons. The only other person that was on all four was sheep, a cult leader.

derfderf34 wrote:To all of you who say that I am a bandwagoner and want to lynch me because of it: I do it every game and I obviously not scum every time.

derfderf34 wrote:If you are sure that if you try to kill a townie it wont work try to kill me just to clear me, I wont die

A little WIFOM thrown in. Obviously, if derf was actually town, this would be a horrible idea as it would waste a kill (which was used to kill pmc, a cult leader).

derfderf34 wrote:oops forgot to vote ace

Which is just not good for the town, like Suspect explains here:

Suspect101 wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:
Stroop wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:
william18 wrote:Ace is a hazard to me. Please lynch him.

we cannot waste a lynch on him.

Plus, if we lynch ace, blue cult just kills will and they're the only cult left.

Will, you'll just have to trust on ace not to kill you

this is good for the town though
it would be town against one cult and the town would have the advantage
the current number of cult members is assumed that every one is successful there should be unsuccessful ones by now

This is not good for the town. It will waste a lynch that we need to be, at leaset, a blue cult member. We know that Ace is not blue, his cult can not grow, and he can not kill town, therefor he is no threat. Blue at most has 4 members. Assuming that Ace is not lying about being the only green, the Town still has 8 members. A wasted lynch would bring blue very close to winning. Would change to 7 v 5 with no extra information gathered. ?

Lynching ace would only benefit the blue cult, and by now I'm pretty convinced derf is a member of the blue cult and possible even the leader.

Phew... done...

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:04 pm**

VOTE COUNT!
Stroop, well done. You savved me the effort of doing all that and probably did a better job.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:14 pm**

Stroop wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game
derf wants to lynch town power roles...

What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:35 pm**

spiesr wrote:
Stroop wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game
derf wants to lynch town power roles...
What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

derf's post

I don't see any mitigating circumstances.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:47 pm**

spiesr wrote:
Stroop wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game
derf wants to lynch town power roles...
What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

Are you saying that derf is scummy or stroop?

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:05 pm**

Suspect101 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
Stroop wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game
derf wants to lynch town power roles...
What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

Are you saying that derf is scummy or stroop?

I highly doubt he meant me

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:24 pm**

Suspect101 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
Stroop wrote:
derfderf34 wrote:Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game
derf wants to lynch town power roles...
What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.
Are you saying that derf is scummy or stroop?

That derfderf is scummy.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:44 pm**

can we get some prods and a replacement for farside?

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:50 pm**

Vote Count

derfderf24 - 4 votes (Suspect101, Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217)
ace1217 - 2 votes (william18, derfderf34)

With 14 players it takes 8 votes to lynch

derfderf is at L-4

I need a replacment for farside

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:12 pm**

why is it that all the players have time to post in other forums but not in here.

Posted: **Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:41 pm**

Vote derf

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