War of the Triple Cult (Day 6)

[Stroop]

Ace is a hazard to me. Please lynch him.

we cannot waste a lynch on him.

Plus, if we lynch ace, blue cult just kills will and they're the only cult left.

Will, you'll just have to trust on ace not to kill you

this is good for the town though
it would be town against one cult and the town would have the advantage
the current number of cult members is assumed that every one is successful there should be unsuccessful ones by now

Not at all good, like Suspect explained.

This, on top of the bandwagoning through the entire game warrants a vote derf

Stroop could you have been recruited by the red cult?

Yes, I'm not unrecruitable in any way.

[spiesr]

Questions:
1. Why in the world would ace tell us that he was recruited by the green cult last night? Does he not want to win?
2. Is it possible that ace was actually recruited by the blue cult but is pretending to be recruited by the green cult to avoid being lynched? Without investigating him or an actual green cult member coming forward there would be know way we would know right?

Agree that the blue psychologist should not come forward, but the green one should.

Assuming that he wasn't recruited...

How would that stop him from coming forward? Unless he was recruited early on, gained a different role as a result, and then was killed under that role. (In essence was thezzaruz) He could still come forward if he was cult and claim to be the role he once was...

[william18]

Ace is a hazard to me. Please lynch him.

we cannot waste a lynch on him.

Plus, if we lynch ace, blue cult just kills will and they're the only cult left.

Will, you'll just have to trust on ace not to kill you

Don't we have a doctor? Anyway, if we pick someone randomly, there's a great chance of thme being blue.

Random.org everyone besides:

Stroop
William
ace
Suspect

[william18]

Questions:
1. Why in the world would ace tell us that he was recruited by the green cult last night? Does he not want to win?
2. Is it possible that ace was actually recruited by the blue cult but is pretending to be recruited by the green cult to avoid being lynched? Without investigating him or an actual green cult member coming forward there would be know way we would know right?

Agree that the blue psychologist should not come forward, but the green one should.

Assuming that he wasn't recruited...

How would that stop him from coming forward? Unless he was recruited early on, gained a different role as a result, and then was killed under that role. (In essence was thezzaruz) He could still come forward if he was cult and claim to be the role he once was...

or maybe he thought he could get the same deal me and / did.

[captainwalrus]

Although Ace does seem suspicious for claiming when there was no pressure he also has no real strong motive to lie. Also, although he claims to do this everygame he does bandwagon a lot. I will Vote Derfderf as I have at the start of the past few days now.

[Stroop]

Questions:
1. Why in the world would ace tell us that he was recruited by the green cult last night? Does he not want to win?
2. Is it possible that ace was actually recruited by the blue cult but is pretending to be recruited by the green cult to avoid being lynched? Without investigating him or an actual green cult member coming forward there would be know way we would know right?

1. Who knows what ace thought when he posted that
2. It's possible, but he revealed himself to the green cult if that's the case, and assuming pmc didn't suck at recruiting there should be at least one green cultist that will want to kill ace tonight.

Agree that the blue psychologist should not come forward, but the green one should.

Assuming that he wasn't recruited...

How would that stop him from coming forward? Unless he was recruited early on, gained a different role as a result, and then was killed under that role. (In essence was thezzaruz) He could still come forward if he was cult and claim to be the role he once was...[/quote]
Good point

[ace1217]

I'll put it this way. Town needs me alive to win this, because otherwise you don't get a chance to kill one of blue and you lose due to being outnumbered.

[captainwalrus]

We have suspect, He is a blue cult investigator isn't he? If we don't lynch derf then suspect should investigate him.

[ace1217]

We have suspect, He is a blue cult investigator isn't he? If we don't lynch derf then suspect should investigate him.

Technically we have three. Me, william, and suspect. I can't kill town, but I can kill cult. William searches for any cult, and suspect looks for blue.

[spiesr]

Don't we have a doctor?

Not necessarily.

I'll put it this way. Town needs me alive to win this, because otherwise you don't get a chance to kill one of blue and you lose due to being outnumbered.

Not necessarily, you are like a redundant version of Suspect101 with regards to your abilities at this point. Expect you can't investigate, the cult could more easily kill you, and you don't have a town aligned win condition so you can't be trusted later in the game.

if we pick someone randomly, there's a great chance of thme being blue.
Random.org everyone besides:

Why would we start by picking someone randomly? We have the past three days of evidence to look at; surely we could find someone scummy looking in there?

[captainwalrus]

surely we could find someone scummy looking in there?

DERFDERF!

[Stroop]

captainwalrus is right. Derfderf has been writing cult on his forehead since day 1 (which would mean he's a cult leader).

I'll even make a fancy case when I get back from getting coffee.

[ace1217]

captainwalrus is right. Derfderf has been writing cult on his forehead since day 1 (which would mean he's a cult leader).

I'll even make a fancy case when I get back from getting coffee.

Vote derfderf

[spiesr]

Yeah, I guess he has been rather scummy.
I will say this though, bandwagon appears to be his general strategy in all his games.
This of course in no way means he is not cult here.

[Stroop]

Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game

derf wants to lynch town power roles...

we are saying that it is possible for kage to already be in a cult

This is on day 1. Derf says he thinks it's very possible for a specialist role like kage's (now Suspect) to already be cult. Considering what Nate reveals about the setup in the intro and the fact that would mean the town was screwed from day 1, it was just not plausible at all. To me, it looks like cult trying to create confusion about the setup.

i still think that it is possible for cults to start with two members (3 of the nine special could be cult)

And he persists even though it has been explained that it's highly unlikely.

Yes ace has acted strange I saw that we lynch him and if he comes up cult we lynch nag if he comes up the role he claime we lynch kage

Derf persists in wanting to lynch town power roles by saying: "If ace comes up a town power role, we should lynch kage who claimed to be the same power role.".

unvote vote mpjh(i had already fosed and will unvote if gets closer to a lynch

This vote is useless if derf really intended to unvote later. mpjh had already claimed so there wouldn't be any more info to be gained from pressure. Derf is just cautiously stepping onto a bandwagon.

Now to the bandwaggons:

kagetora - 8 votes (Stroop, LSU Tiger Josh, spiesr, spaceghst44, pmchugh, sheepofdumb, Thezzaruz, derfderf34)

space_ghst_44 - 11 votes (animorpherv1, Thezzaruz, captainwalrus, mpjh, pmchugh, kagetora, /, Haggis_McMutton, derfderf34, sheepofdumb, spaceghst44)

mpjh- before mod kill- 5 (stroop, thez, derf, speisr, sheepofdumb)

animorpherv1 - 11 votes (/, sheepofdumb, ace1217, Juan_Bottom, william18, Thezzaruz, spiesr, derfderf34, LSU Tiger Josh, Stroop, norsemsn1066)

BW count
william18- 1
pmchugh- 2
/- 2
ace1217- 1
LSU Tiger Josh -2
Iliad- 0
norsemsn1066- 1
Stroop- 1
sheepofdumb- 4
derfderf34- 4
nagerous- 0
farside22- 0
Haggis_McMutton- 1
spiesr- 3
Thezzaruz- 3
Juan_Bottom- 0
captainwalrus- 1
kagetora- 1

derf was on all four bandwagons. The only other person that was on all four was sheep, a cult leader.

To all of you who say that I am a bandwagoner and want to lynch me because of it: I do it every game and I obviously not scum every time.

If you are sure that if you try to kill a townie it wont work try to kill me just to clear me, I wont die

A little WIFOM thrown in. Obviously, if derf was actually town, this would be a horrible idea as it would waste a kill (which was used to kill pmc, a cult leader).

oops forgot to vote ace

Which is just not good for the town, like Suspect explains here:

Ace is a hazard to me. Please lynch him.

we cannot waste a lynch on him.

Plus, if we lynch ace, blue cult just kills will and they're the only cult left.

Will, you'll just have to trust on ace not to kill you

this is good for the town though
it would be town against one cult and the town would have the advantage
the current number of cult members is assumed that every one is successful there should be unsuccessful ones by now

This is not good for the town. It will waste a lynch that we need to be, at leaset, a blue cult member. We know that Ace is not blue, his cult can not grow, and he can not kill town, therefor he is no threat. Blue at most has 4 members. Assuming that Ace is not lying about being the only green, the Town still has 8 members. A wasted lynch would bring blue very close to winning. Would change to 7 v 5 with no extra information gathered. ?

Lynching ace would only benefit the blue cult, and by now I'm pretty convinced derf is a member of the blue cult and possible even the leader.

Phew... done...

[captainwalrus]

VOTE COUNT!
Stroop, well done. You savved me the effort of doing all that and probably did a better job.

[spiesr]

Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game

derf wants to lynch town power roles...

What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

[Stroop]

Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game

derf wants to lynch town power roles...

What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

derf's post

I don't see any mitigating circumstances.

[Suspect101]

Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game

derf wants to lynch town power roles...

What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

Are you saying that derf is scummy or stroop?

[Stroop]

Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game

derf wants to lynch town power roles...

What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

Are you saying that derf is scummy or stroop?

I highly doubt he meant me

[spiesr]

Then if we lynch all the pro town power roles the game is free to become a faction game

derf wants to lynch town power roles...

What sort of context was this quote ripped from? If there are no mitigating circumstances that seems rather scummy and incredibly stupid.

Are you saying that derf is scummy or stroop?

That derfderf is scummy.

[Suspect101]

can we get some prods and a replacement for farside?

[Natewolfman]

Vote Count

derfderf24 - 4 votes (Suspect101, Stroop, captainwalrus, ace1217)
ace1217 - 2 votes (william18, derfderf34)

With 14 players it takes 8 votes to lynch

derfderf is at L-4

I need a replacment for farside

[Suspect101]

why is it that all the players have time to post in other forums but not in here.

[william18]

Vote derf