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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:06 pm
by ga7
The whole MM thing makes no sense to me. For starters, I think he would have dropped dead too when investigating GT. And I don't buy the fact he could have been doc-protected.
Another thing that makes no sense also is the fact people want Charles out when we know he wouldn't fake claim, kinda just for the sake of it. We're at day 3 already, I don't think we'll learn anything useful lynching noob townies.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:08 pm
by firth4eva
ga7 wrote:The whole MM thing makes no sense to me. For starters, I think he would have dropped dead too when investigating GT. And I don't buy the fact he could have been doc-protected.
Another thing that makes no sense also is the fact people want Charles out when we know he wouldn't fake claim, kinda just for the sake of it. We're at day 3 already, I don't think we'll learn anything useful lynching noob townies.
i think we will. we will find out if all the roles are real or fake. and if they are all right then we have 1 cop investigating. if they are wrong we might have 2 or 0 investigations
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:09 pm
by charles77
Another thing that makes no sense also is the fact people want Charles out when we know he wouldn't fake claim, kinda just for the sake of it. We're at day 3 already, I don't think we'll learn anything useful lynching noob townies.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:13 pm
by firth4eva
charles77 wrote:Another thing that makes no sense also is the fact people want Charles out when we know he wouldn't fake claim, kinda just for the sake of it. We're at day 3 already, I don't think we'll learn anything useful lynching noob townies.
if you want to shift doubt away from you try to find someone worth lynching more than you
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:14 pm
by ga7
But how does that really help us? If we still have a cop, I assume he'll know when he must uncover himself and reveal his investigations.
That said, Charles' post kinda piss me off. I might change my mind if everyone's votes are still stuck on you tomorrow.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:15 pm
by Minister Masket
ga7 wrote:But how does that really help us? If we still have a cop, I assume he'll know when he must uncover himself and reveal his investigations.
*ahem*
Now is not the time.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:16 pm
by got tonkaed
ga7 wrote:The whole MM thing makes no sense to me. For starters, I think he would have dropped dead too when investigating GT. And I don't buy the fact he could have been doc-protected.
Another thing that makes no sense also is the fact people want Charles out when we know he wouldn't fake claim, kinda just for the sake of it. We're at day 3 already, I don't think we'll learn anything useful lynching noob townies.
I dont really agree with a lot of things about mm but theres really no way to vouch him on it, other than lynching me, or checking if he investigates someone else tommorow. I know that im not a scum, and i dont really buy that he is getting doc protected, but if hes insane its not worth killing him off.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:18 pm
by firth4eva
Minister Masket wrote:ga7 wrote:But how does that really help us? If we still have a cop, I assume he'll know when he must uncover himself and reveal his investigations.
*ahem*
Now is not the time.
its today you have to do it because there is no guarentee there is a doc so there is a high risk of you dying
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:19 pm
by The1exile
firth4eva wrote:Minister Masket wrote:ga7 wrote:But how does that really help us? If we still have a cop, I assume he'll know when he must uncover himself and reveal his investigations.
*ahem*
Now is not the time.
its today you have to do it because there is no guarentee there is a doc so there is a high risk of you dying
There is a doc. or rather, a nurse.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:19 pm
by Minister Masket
got tonkaed wrote:I dont really agree with a lot of things about mm but theres really no way to vouch him on it, other than lynching me, or checking if he investigates someone else tommorow. I know that im not a scum, and i dont really buy that he is getting doc protected, but if hes insane its not worth killing him off.
Nice of you to show up.
So what do you have to say for yourself? *flips open notepad*
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:25 pm
by got tonkaed
Well i guess if i have to make a case for myself not really being a scum...
I havent really hid from the idea that people were investigating me, nor have i belittled you when you have investigated. In fact, the manner in which you have been going after me, really suggests more of a lyncher mentality than that of a cop, considering as a cop you would have probably also investigated other players, and vouched for them at somepoint in the game, which to the best of my knowledge you have not.
Likewise, there really seems to be no reason that a doctor would have protected, or that given the day 1 disaster that you would have survived if you came to my house. (I apologize if this sounds like a criticism of your case against me rather than a case for me being town, but i have to admit that case seems less necessary since i feel even the other people dont think i am scum).
I havent been going after people that would possibly be threats to a scum team, if i knew who they were, i havent rashly attempted to elminate possible helpful players to the town, and ive done my best to protect players when necesary.
Theres a lot of reasons for me being town...only your "investigation" which could cause me too look like scum, and you increasingly sound like a lyncher the way you have played cop.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:27 pm
by ga7
Well, I suppose he could be insane. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt as I don't think a lynch of you or him will help much today.
At this point I feel WT might be a good choice, and IGS an even better one.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:28 pm
by got tonkaed
ga7 wrote:Well, I suppose he could be insane. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt as I don't think a lynch of you or him will help much today.
At this point I feel WT might be a good choice, and IGS an even better one.
I think at the moment he is probably a lyncher....but i could be wrong.
i dont really have a problem with IGS or WT if those are the eventual choices
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:40 pm
by Minister Masket
got tonkaed wrote:Well i guess if i have to make a case for myself not really being a scum...
I havent really hid from the idea that people were investigating me, nor have i belittled you when you have investigated. In fact, the manner in which you have been going after me, really suggests more of a lyncher mentality than that of a cop, considering as a cop you would have probably also investigated other players, and vouched for them at somepoint in the game, which to the best of my knowledge you have not.
Likewise, there really seems to be no reason that a doctor would have protected, or that given the day 1 disaster that you would have survived if you came to my house. (I apologize if this sounds like a criticism of your case against me rather than a case for me being town, but i have to admit that case seems less necessary since i feel even the other people dont think i am scum).
I havent been going after people that would possibly be threats to a scum team, if i knew who they were, i havent rashly attempted to elminate possible helpful players to the town, and ive done my best to protect players when necesary.
Theres a lot of reasons for me being town...only your "investigation" which could cause me too look like scum, and you increasingly sound like a lyncher the way you have played cop.
Bold - You forget it's only Day 3. Role claims rarely come this early on.
Itatlic - I do not think I would need protection. Nevertheless, if the Doc protected randomly, there is a chance it was me. If so, thank you.
Underline - I had to do it differently didn't I? Otherwise I would have been exposed.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:41 pm
by Minister Masket
ga7 wrote:Well, I suppose he could be insane.
Oh great, be doubtful of my sanity aswell eh!?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:45 pm
by got tonkaed
what you seem to be forgetting is that given the bloodbath that has already occured, we are much farther along in terms of lives lost than we would normally be on a day 3. Also a lot of cops have already been offed and not so many doctors. Likewise until today you were certainly not high profile enough to get a doc protection im sorry. I find it highly unlikely that it has occured like that, im just too skeptical.
And lastly, go check tombstone mafia if you want to find out how a cop can play an investigation on day 2 or day 3 without having to claim...
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:09 pm
by Minister Masket
I remind the defendent that this
is a Fircoal game.
Anything can happen.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:10 pm
by The1exile
Minister Masket wrote:Bold - You forget it's only Day 3. Role claims rarely come this early on.
They do for cops.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:38 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
Point 1: MM you're an idiot. Read the kirby game that just ended and it would make very clear that tonka is a PGO based upon Fircoal's handling of that role. I was trying to avoid saying that flat out in case another scum went after him. If anyone else has a role that can state "cop" please investigate MM to find out if he is a lyncher, scum trying to off a deadly townie, or just an idiot.
Point 2: I KNOW that not all death rolls will be true as I've been told mine even though both are protown. Maybe everyone else didn't get that, but if you're lynching charles just to find that out, then I'll state that I have definitive knowledge of it changing.
Point 3: Unvote Vote IGS since he is posting in other places.
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:46 pm
by Russianfire8371
Vote IGS
the MM and Tonka situation is a battle that should be fought tommoro. We dont have enough evidence that either one is right or wrong. Even with the deaths that have happened, you cant really tell if Tonka or MM is good or bad.
IGS is the only safe choice for today because, like ive said a million times, he's been posting elsewhere and not participating. Charles is a noob so the chances that he's actually naughty is slim.
We need a lynch today. Not because we need blood, but rather, we need to throw out some of the mysterious shroud thats surrounding people like IGS, MM or Tonka
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:59 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
Russia go read the end of kirby 64 game modded by fircoal. The situation on night 1 is exactly something that was described in that game.
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:20 am
by Skittles!
unvote
So, MM's trying to tell us that he's a cop, or a back-up cop, or just someone? It would make sense, like others said, if he's investigated Tonka.
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:23 am
by LSU Tiger Josh
Skittles! wrote:unvote
So, MM's trying to tell us that he's a cop, or a back-up cop, or just someone? It would make sense, like others said, if he's investigated Tonka.
He hadn't though. if he had then he would've died by virtue of tonka being a PGO. hence all the others dying there on night 1
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:24 am
by got tonkaed
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Skittles! wrote:unvote
So, MM's trying to tell us that he's a cop, or a back-up cop, or just someone? It would make sense, like others said, if he's investigated Tonka.
He hadn't though. if he had then he would've died by virtue of tonka being a PGO. hence all the others dying there on night 1
it certainly does not seem to fit considering he talked on day 2 which would imply he searched night 1 and therefore probably should have ended up amongst the dead...which leads me to believe he is a lyncher.
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:24 am
by Skittles!
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Skittles! wrote:unvote
So, MM's trying to tell us that he's a cop, or a back-up cop, or just someone? It would make sense, like others said, if he's investigated Tonka.
He hadn't though. if he had then he would've died by virtue of tonka being a PGO. hence all the others dying there on night 1
You mean, all those people died by investigating Tonka? Makes so much more sense now..
What's a PGO?