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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:12 pm
by supercram
HoussamTheGreat wrote:
supercram wrote:then he posted in THIS THREAD and said "sorry about that autoload."

that's an admission of guilt. so are you with them or what?


err.. because we are playing "nice" mafia scum?? You really think if Rev had anything to do with killing autoload, he would come and apologize about it?


yes. i think rev knows we've got his number and whatever he does now doesn't matter.

and you are becoming suspicious....

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:13 pm
by supercram
enough with the insane cop theories, set-up theories, etc.

the insane cop theory derailed us yesterday. this set-up theory of yours stinks to high heaven.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:26 pm
by reverend_kyle
I know AK and I are not mafia.. we actually did do some talking tonight and concluded that since auto was a cop either of us was probably gone fast, however we have a few theories.



We think that possibly wicked or houssam are mafia, because of their random voting for eachother may be a red herring to keep us off the track.


I know you probably dont believe me but think about it.

Also I said sorry about that autoload when anyone dies in mafia pretty much, especially in the first round.. its sad.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:29 pm
by wicked
supercram wrote:wicked (T) Defended AK rigorously, then wanted no lynch, then voted AK, then switched to autoload


Just wanted to clear this up, I was no lynch first, then defended IC, then voted IC ... never did I vote auto. I had one point at like 2am where I was frustrated and confused, so threw out a "what if" scenario that involved lynching auto, but never did I actively go after him.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:29 pm
by supercram
right. :-^

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:30 pm
by supercram
that was to kyle.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:32 pm
by XenHu
Hold up....

What are you implying?
reverend_kyle wrote:since auto was a cop either of us was probably gone fast

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:35 pm
by wicked
Just wanted to point out anyone that does not vote for IC (or votes then unvotes IC) is trying to create confusion similar to day one. Townies know what to do, it is extremely obvious. Take note of who waffles on this vote and presses us to do something else. I'm sure as everyone else logs on throughout the day, we'll have the vote quickly.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:36 pm
by HoussamTheGreat
reverend_kyle wrote:I know AK and I are not mafia.. we actually did do some talking tonight and concluded that since auto was a cop either of us was probably gone fast, however we have a few theories.


Ok.. I don't know what to say to that at this point.. we have a confirmed cop - that confirmed AK was infected. You are "sure" he is not mafia.. do you have anything more than his word?!

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:37 pm
by supercram
auto and kyle tried an interesting mafia strategy, which was to say "let's pretend to be masons, we'll even be blatant about our last names!"

unfortunately this backfired, since IC was fingered on the first night by the cop. they were able to successfully convince enough of us that auto may have been an "insane cop", now kyle throws out the thing about wicked/houssam, all of this an attempt to distract from something factual.

the simplest explanation is that auto was a cop, IC is mafia, and the kyle/IC mafia strategy has been exposed far earlier than they intended it to.

now we have the chance to eliminate 2 mafia from this game. i do not know if the infection is spreading, i do not know if someone here has a win condition that is aligned with mafia, but none of that should distract from the fact that are first two kills are pretty clear-cut.

IC
kyle and then...
?????????????

after we kill IC the mafia are going to have to be more vocal, they will not be able to hang back in the BG. so keep an eye on who becomes more active now.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:37 pm
by HoussamTheGreat
wicked wrote:Just wanted to point out anyone that does not vote for IC (or votes then unvotes IC) is trying to create confusion similar to day one. Townies know what to do, it is extremely obvious. Take note of who waffles on this vote and presses us to do something else. I'm sure as everyone else logs on throughout the day, we'll have the vote quickly.


Oh go fish!
I did not waffle. I am clear on who I am voting for, and told everyone as much. I am just not quite sure why we have to rush things and waste a day where we could get clues. What's your rush anyway??

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:38 pm
by supercram
wicked wrote:Just wanted to point out anyone that does not vote for IC (or votes then unvotes IC) is trying to create confusion similar to day one. Townies know what to do, it is extremely obvious. Take note of who waffles on this vote and presses us to do something else. I'm sure as everyone else logs on throughout the day, we'll have the vote quickly.


QFE

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:40 pm
by supercram
supercram wrote:
after we kill IC the mafia are going to have to be more vocal, they will not be able to hang back in the BG. so keep an eye on who becomes more active now.


QFE

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:42 pm
by Freetymes
HoussamTheGreat wrote:Oh go fish!
I did not waffle. I am clear on who I am voting for, and told everyone as much. I am just not quite sure why we have to rush things and waste a day where we could get clues. What's your rush anyway??



That was my point exactally when I voted for AC (thank you very much Cram...) Nothing more.

Kyles story matches with Auto's theory but I have a hard time believing Kyle and have all along. This is just the kind of twist that catches townies though so I thought it was worth the discussion too.

Why is Cram and Wicked pushing so hard for a fast vote?

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:43 pm
by reverend_kyle
XenHu wrote:Hold up....

What are you implying?
reverend_kyle wrote:since auto was a cop either of us was probably gone fast



Well, AK is probably gone now, I'm pretty sure that he isnt mafia because why would andy make one mason mafia and one town. I know I'm town..


Oh well, both ak and I are both probably as good as lynched.. I don't know what to say to change your mind.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:43 pm
by Freetymes
We have all day. Right?

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:44 pm
by supercram
because i want to hang a known mafia member? :roll:

and also, because people start interjecting these ridiculous theories to distract us from fact.

we know IC is mafia, by extension 99.999999999999% sure of Kyle.

what is there to discuss about that? let's figure out who the third mafia is if you want to drag the day out.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:45 pm
by supercram
and if kyle is not mafia, he's a sibling. which means he's gonna kill himself anyway. so ok, let's discuss and find the other(s)

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:54 pm
by Freetymes
You make a good point thus my vote but the more people talk the more chance we can find info. A quick lynching leave us with no idea where to go next except old theories. I am trying to go back and see all that Auto posted as we know he was on the level. I think one of the "Trusted" members of our group shouldn't be!

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:58 pm
by wicked
HoussamTheGreat wrote:I am just not quite sure why we have to rush things and waste a day where we could get clues.


hmm, what clues would you like next? Who the doc is so you can off him too? :roll: I am all for delaying the vote so everyone has a chance to weigh in. But hearing from the same people over and over with the same information only leads to confusion, as in day 1. I doubt anyone will come forward today with any clues, which is probably a smart move, as doing so got both Auto and Backglass killed. We have enough info now to lynch the next party.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:59 pm
by supercram
Freetymes wrote:You make a good point thus my vote but the more people talk the more chance we can find info. A quick lynching leave us with no idea where to go next except old theories. I am trying to go back and see all that Auto posted as we know he was on the level. I think one of the "Trusted" members of our group shouldn't be!


let us know what you find.

i don't trust anyone at the moment.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:03 pm
by wicked
You are correct Free! I almost forgot about going back and re-reading everything that Auto said! sheesh! I've got blinders on against IC now. Let us know what you find!!

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:08 pm
by dagreatbroomhead
Vote: AK

the word of a confirmed cop is enough for me. i think the debate for who should be killed next should be left to tomarrow when we have even more information.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:23 pm
by XenHu
I did a quick search of all the stuff Auto said(note the word quick) and came across this:

autoload wrote:
Now in order for this to work we need the doctor to protect me at night and we must come to a consensus on who I should investigate night 2. Please let there be a doctor, but If you ARE the Doctor, do not claim!!!


Seeing as autoload was killed, we either:

1.Have no doctor

2. Have a docter but whom ever that may be hasn't been very active(moz, perhaps?)

Just my two cents..
-X

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:26 pm
by XenHu
XenHu wrote:I did a quick search of all the stuff Auto said(note the word quick) and came across this:

autoload wrote:
Now in order for this to work we need the doctor to protect me at night and we must come to a consensus on who I should investigate night 2. Please let there be a doctor, but If you ARE the Doctor, do not claim!!!


Seeing as autoload was killed, we either:

1.Have no doctor

2. Have a docter but whom ever that may be hasn't been very active(moz, perhaps?)

Just my two cents..
-X


D'oh! Forgot a point..

3. We have a doctor, but he/she is not coming forward for fear of asassination. In which case, we would hvae to find a way to protect him/her.

-X