INTO THE DEEP (COMPLETE - Mafia Win !!)

[jfm10]

Wait, what?
How do you know the healing is a day action, and why would that rule out SW as the healer? I mean he said the quote below about not knowing who he'll target tonight, but that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have a day action, even if it makes it unlikely.

To answer a question, yes I can heal poisonings as well as regular kills and if you look back you'll even see I low key brought up the idea of a poisoner as "unlikely" day 1. That said, i have not decided who I'm going to target tonight.

I think jfm is annoying but harmless, if he's scum, he can wait. Blacky might be a deadman walking. we can't lynch all of them today so, I pick this one:
VOTE Metsfanmax

For the record, do you think jfm is scum?

He said the quote below about not knowing who he'll target tonight.The day doctor will do it sooner and strike wolf is no day doctor.

[jfm10]

Awe did skoffin miss me?Now it's time for me to show yous some things i have learned.strike wolf,i can't prove with words that you are scum,it can only be done with cooperative actions.

1.Would the real doctor please use a reply to razorvich and tell him you want to use your daytime action to heal blacky.DO NOT post in this thread that its done or that your a doctor cause these guys will crucify you.

2.blacky,when it is done i believe razorvich will send you a letter telling you that you're healed.if that happens then please type confirmed and vote strike wolf.

3. when this happens the rest of the new players MUST get on the train and lynch strike wolf.

4. ragian , bujaber and metsfanmax please you guys are playing with logic and i believe aage is aswell,after this post I will be hit hard and i have got to go to sleep.By me the time needed for the doctor to work his magic.Thank Yous and goodnight.

unvote skoffin

vote strike wolf

I dont follow... if I were to get a message saying im healed, how does that make SW scum?

Because SW said he would do it tonight (the good ole night doctor role)

[Ragian]

Well, to be nitpicking, his statement doesn't exclude any day ability. How do you know that healing is a day ability, jmf?

[jfm10]

Well, to be nitpicking, his statement doesn't exclude any day ability. How do you know that healing is a day ability, jmf?

I know who the doctor is

[blacky365]

Well, to be nitpicking, his statement doesn't exclude any day ability. How do you know that healing is a day ability, jmf?

I know who the doctor is

Who and how?

[Sirius Kase]

I think jfm is annoying but harmless, if he's scum, he can wait. Blacky might be a deadman walking. we can't lynch all of them today so, I pick this one:
VOTE Metsfanmax

For the record, do you think jfm is scum?

Yes, but think Mets is more harmful. Consensus seems to be on jfm, so mets can wait.

UNVOTE VOTE jfm10

Only half the people here ever vote. What's with that?

[jfm10]

Well, to be nitpicking, his statement doesn't exclude any day ability. How do you know that healing is a day ability, jmf?

I know who the doctor is

Who and how?

That answer has to wait

[Sirius Kase]

I think that's L-2 now. Can't wait much longer.

[dakky21]

@Sirius .. If by any chance jfm really knows who the doctor is, why would you push him to L-2 and try to fish who the doctor is out of him?

[jfm10]

@Sirius .. If by any chance jfm really knows who the doctor is, why would you push him to L-2 and try to fish who the doctor is out of him?

Honestly i am no stranger to L-2 so i respect the vote but please if you are town dakky just please give me the chance to show that blacky gets healed in the daytime

[Tobikera]

I think that's L-2 now. Can't wait much longer.

There are several questions raised in the last series of posts.
Ragian, I think, raised the questions to jfm of "How (did you know?) and who (is it?)";
SK generates the question from dakky and me "What's the rush?" maybe I'm misinterpreting, but as dakky first said, "why push jfm to L-2" if the truth will be probably be forthcoming anyway? And, if not, then that's a mark against jfm.
But, my biggest question is, IF there is a doctor who makes daytime, sea-side calls to curing poisoning, "why hasn't he acted already, and helped us avoid about 10 pages of text here???"

[jfm10]

I think that's L-2 now. Can't wait much longer.

There are several questions raised in the last series of posts.
Ragian, I think, raised the questions to jfm of "How (did you know?) and who (is it?)";
SK generates the question from dakky and me "What's the rush?" maybe I'm misinterpreting, but as dakky first said, "why push jfm to L-2" if the truth will be probably be forthcoming anyway? And, if not, then that's a mark against jfm.
But, my biggest question is, IF there is a doctor who makes daytime, sea-side calls to curing poisoning, "why hasn't he acted already, and helped us avoid about 10 pages of text here???"

Because it's a new player that has accepted strike wolf will just do it tonight.

[Tobikera]

Sorry, it was blacky who said "Who and how?"
I guess it is in blacky's best interest, since he said he was poisoned, to say he was healed??
Of course, if he wasn't poisoned and his whole story is false in order to get a town-guise, he would still say he was healed to maintain the story??. If he keeps quiet, then jfm gets sunk.
Or not?? Suggestions?

[TX AG 90]

OK,

Pretty sure either Strike Wolf or jfm is scum. If we lynch one on D2 and he flips town, we should automatically lynch the other D3. Killing 1 scum in first 3 days is a decent outcome.

Here is the evidence against each:

Strike Wolf

I fucked up day 1. I messed up when I read my role. I basically saw block mentioned in my role PM and thought I was a jailer (I even read it twice but maybe I should have waited until I was fully awake to read). What it actually was saying without quoting my role is that I prevent kill actions from reaching my target. Not that I prevent my targets actions.

I tried to ask JFM to clarify his role to keep from having to counter claim and I end up being wrong but I think I'm the only one barking that right now and I am not currently active enough to force the issue in a reasonable amount of time. Also, I admittedly may have been trying to avoid having to admit to such an embarrassing mistake.

Vote JFM

For the record, I did receive proof that my action was successful last night and it was not Skoffin.

So either a. Skoffi n was busdriven with the person I targeted. b. Skoffi n is lying. C. My target went for food and I prevented them from being killed that way or more unlikely, d. Skoffi n and my target were both targeted for kills.

I understand if people don't really believe me, it was a really newbiesque mistake, but if you do I would like to receive some kind of protection. Preferably something that could keep me from being role blocked.
Iliad wrote:

This is barely believable. He even claimed he read it twice without realizing what he really was. This could just be something made up in order to counterclaim jfm and get him lynched. Also, the fact that he begs someone to protect him N2 is suspect

Dakkys right. I am a doctor. I just misunderstood my role pm and thought I was a jailkeeper. Pretty much just misunderstood having a block action that went with the protective action. JFM pretty much claimed Doc yesterday (I'm assuming he just came up with the word attack to go with it being protective. Even if I am wrong here, I imagine it was a paraphrasing), so his claim appears identical to my role. I tried to get him to clarify to make sure but it was gonna take too much time to really press the issue with me only getting on once a day right now.

Again, jfm never claimed to be a Doctor. SW is pushing hard for a lynching of jfm without much evidence.

To answer a question, yes I can heal poisonings as well as regular kills and if you look back you'll even see I low key brought up the idea of a poisoner as "unlikely" day 1. That said, i have not decided who I'm going to target tonight.

Why would you say on Day 1 a poisoner was unlikely if you knew you could heal someone who has been poisoned. It seems like you are making your "role" up as we go along.


jfm

When forced to claim more details at L-2, jfm posted this:

My ability is "prevent all attacks against your target"

I have been trying to tell yous i am town and i just get the you must be scum for giving out info on yourself.My ability is weak at the beginning of the game as i have a less than 7% chance of picking the scums target unless i make myself the target and then they waste thier night.

I have no choice now but to target myself every night but atleast town now knows that i can only be lynched.Also note attacks is plural so you can count on vigilantes in this game.

How many people read this as his plan was to target himself EVERY night and not just once so he is now protected for the rest of the game. AND now he claims Seraph Knight, who can only protect ONCE, but is for rest of game. I may be reading too much into the verbage, but it seems like someone making it up as he goes along and jusssst missing...

Also, when jfm was claiming one little piece at a time, he claimed he was freshwater where nobody else has claimed to have this info in their narrative. Is this another aspect of someone providing too much irrelevant info in a lie in order to try and look like town? That's why lies should be simple; when you try to get too creative, you trip yourself up.

jfm claims to be a seraph night and some other role that allows him to know someone is a Day Doctor? How many roles does he have, can I borrow one?

I had one other important piece of evidence I thought of, but forgot to right it down and can't find it...

That being said, I'm still on the fence with these 2, but agree that one has to go and maybe both.

[TX AG 90]

Sorry, it was blacky who said "Who and how?"
I guess it is in blacky's best interest, since he said he was poisoned, to say he was healed??
Of course, if he wasn't poisoned and his whole story is false in order to get a town-guise, he would still say he was healed to maintain the story??. If he keeps quiet, then jfm gets sunk.
Or not?? Suggestions?

OR if blacky and jfm are both scum and he claims to be healed, then we lynch SW and they both escape justice

[Tobikera]

Because it's a new player that has accepted strike wolf will just do it tonight.

Forget Strike Wolf, I'm getting confused here, didn't you state "there was a day doctor, who was going to cure blacky on D2, and to please not lynch me until I am proven right??"

[jfm10]

Sorry, it was blacky who said "Who and how?"
I guess it is in blacky's best interest, since he said he was poisoned, to say he was healed??
Of course, if he wasn't poisoned and his whole story is false in order to get a town-guise, he would still say he was healed to maintain the story??. If he keeps quiet, then jfm gets sunk.
Or not?? Suggestions?

OR if blacky and jfm are both scum and he claims to be healed, then we lynch SW and they both escape justice

If strike wolf turns out to be doctor then you have 2 immediate lynches.

[Sirius Kase]

Mod Note: Day 2 Deadline will be released in 48 hours

6 haven't voted. Why haven't Pika, Ragian, aage, chapcrap, TX AG, and blacky voted? Are they waiting for something? Are they afraid of looking like scum? Would they rather not vote at all than risk voting on wrong person?

People are so quick to demand justification for a vote. That's understandable. But, considering how long we've been treading water, I think it's time to demand justification for not voting.

[Sirius Kase]

BTW, I am aware my vote has moved. But, that doesn't change the fact that those 6 aren't voting.

[jfm10]

there is time syrious

Mod Note: Day 2 Deadline will be released in 48 hours

[Sirius Kase]

There are 6 people who can unvote jfm. I'm hanging out here in case something happens.

[jfm10]

Because it's a new player that has accepted strike wolf will just do it tonight.

Forget Strike Wolf, I'm getting confused here, didn't you state "there was a day doctor, who was going to cure blacky on D2, and to please not lynch me until I am proven right??"

I am saying that the healing comes in the daytime and to lynch strike wolf to be scum enough to take a role that isn't his.

[Tobikera]

I had doubts about jfm, but he's looking more and more scummy to me.
He won't answer a simple question. I'm not asking who the daytime doctor is that he's peddling, that would give info to scum.
I'm also not asking HOW he knows who he is.

What I'm asking is WHY the daytime doctor hasn't acted yet to cure blacky's supposed poison problem?

The possibility that jfm and blacky are doing a two-step on our heads here has not escaped my attention.

[jfm10]

I think that's L-2 now. Can't wait much longer.

There are several questions raised in the last series of posts.
Ragian, I think, raised the questions to jfm of "How (did you know?) and who (is it?)";
SK generates the question from dakky and me "What's the rush?" maybe I'm misinterpreting, but as dakky first said, "why push jfm to L-2" if the truth will be probably be forthcoming anyway? And, if not, then that's a mark against jfm.
But, my biggest question is, IF there is a doctor who makes daytime, sea-side calls to curing poisoning, "why hasn't he acted already, and helped us avoid about 10 pages of text here???"

Because it's a new player that has accepted strike wolf will just do it tonight.

Near top of this page tobi

[Metsfanmax]

So that I'm on the record for D2, I'll vote Tobikera since he's been acting a little weird this whole time. jfm just put himself out on a limb, and Tobi won't even give him the time to let his gambit play out, which is suspicious. If Tobi is right that jfm's BS'ing us, it won't take us very long to find out.