Double Fanucci Mafia (4/14) Endgame

[Metsfanmax]

If the mafia know you're unaffected by kills though you're not gonna be targeted


Its a low risk lynch. We lose nothing by killing you since you're not gonna be targeted by night actions...

Which is exactly why I wanted to maximize the chances of me being targeted N1 before I would have to claim. Like I said earlier. Also Losing nothing by killing me K You lose someone who the mafia can't kill in the night, meaning that the kill targets have to be other people narrowing down the potential targets. They could kill stor (I don't think they will unless they think he's lying about being a survivor and instead is the SK), but it cause the mafia (and SK if there is one) some inconvenience because they have to lynch me to get rid of me.

Except now that you've claimed, you're useless in the night. Even if you are alive tonight (and telling the truth), then mafia won't target you either way. You were much more useful before you had claimed -- now town doesn't lose much at all by lynching you. Mafia don't have to kill every single townie to win the game; they just have to kill enough that they outnumber those who are remaining. All this means is that you're going to be one of the last members of town remaining if the game is called for them. I do believe your claim, as I said, but if we don't lynch you today it's because we believe you're confirmed town and not because you're useful to us any more outside your vote.

[Metsfanmax]

Yes but we are also in a possible MYLO situation AOG. Say there is a killing group of three. We lynch Rishaed we are down to 9 people 3 mafia 1 third party (maybe also a serial killer) and some 4-5 town. There are again two kills in the night. 7 people 3 mafia 1 third party.

Why are you assuming that the two people who die are town? If we have a SK or something, they might hit mafia. Also, mafia might hit the SK. There's way too many possibilities for us to assign a high probability to MYLO.

It is still a situation where we can't ignore that possibility

In mafia you can't always play the worst-case odds, you have to play the expected outcome.

[dd515087]

Still want a role though rishead or my vote goes back on

I'm pretty sure he claimed commuter which is almost never an every night thing. It's a 1 shot, 2 shot, or every other night thing.

At least that's what I took from it.

Thats NOT what i claimed. I claimed immunity from night actions, no x-shot, no variance. At this point i would have specified, its not my first rodeo boy. I also know what a commuter is as i've modded it in my Once upon a killer game.

I was the commuter in your Once Upon a Killer game... so yes I understand. I only said what I thought you were claiming. I want to believe your town, but the arguments against AoG and mtam are kind of weak right now. I'm just sticking with my gut, can't blame me for that.

Also never heard of your role (doesn't mean much, but it's a little weird)

Or are you sticking with the majority's "gut"?

...Is this a f***ing joke? Let's just repeat what rishaed is saying? Yeah and I'm the one sheeping Geez. I'm pretty convinced the scum team is rish/NoS/AoG or mtam... More likely AoG. Could be both too though

[StorrZerg]

Feel free to vote aog

[rishaed]

We have at least 3 votes on Mtamb. And i've been clear who I want claims from today. My Finals are over, but its still pretty exhausting. I'm going to try and get more indepth cases tomorrow night.

[DoomYoshi]

Deadline for Thursday May 14, I'll get a votecount up tonight.

[mtamburini]

If the mafia know you're unaffected by kills though you're not gonna be targeted


Its a low risk lynch. We lose nothing by killing you since you're not gonna be targeted by night actions...

Which is exactly why I wanted to maximize the chances of me being targeted N1 before I would have to claim. Like I said earlier. Also Losing nothing by killing me K You lose someone who the mafia can't kill in the night, meaning that the kill targets have to be other people narrowing down the potential targets. They could kill stor (I don't think they will unless they think he's lying about being a survivor and instead is the SK), but it cause the mafia (and SK if there is one) some inconvenience because they have to lynch me to get rid of me.

Except now that you've claimed, you're useless in the night. Even if you are alive tonight (and telling the truth), then mafia won't target you either way. You were much more useful before you had claimed -- now town doesn't lose much at all by lynching you. Mafia don't have to kill every single townie to win the game; they just have to kill enough that they outnumber those who are remaining. All this means is that you're going to be one of the last members of town remaining if the game is called for them. I do believe your claim, as I said, but if we don't lynch you today it's because we believe you're confirmed town and not because you're useful to us any more outside your vote.

You're also assuming hes telling the truth about his role

[Iron Butterfly]

Yeh Mtam its how the game works. You either believe or you do not. I stood my ground at the end of yesterday against lynching HS. Rishaed did as well. He could have jumped on either Wing or HS with no problem, "they were scummy bla blah blah". Town in my book.

Also those who are arguing that Rishaed is useless you are not thinking outside the box as to his use if we have a Town Busdriver.

Storr convince me to vote AOG

[Metsfanmax]

If the mafia know you're unaffected by kills though you're not gonna be targeted


Its a low risk lynch. We lose nothing by killing you since you're not gonna be targeted by night actions...

Which is exactly why I wanted to maximize the chances of me being targeted N1 before I would have to claim. Like I said earlier. Also Losing nothing by killing me K You lose someone who the mafia can't kill in the night, meaning that the kill targets have to be other people narrowing down the potential targets. They could kill stor (I don't think they will unless they think he's lying about being a survivor and instead is the SK), but it cause the mafia (and SK if there is one) some inconvenience because they have to lynch me to get rid of me.

Except now that you've claimed, you're useless in the night. Even if you are alive tonight (and telling the truth), then mafia won't target you either way. You were much more useful before you had claimed -- now town doesn't lose much at all by lynching you. Mafia don't have to kill every single townie to win the game; they just have to kill enough that they outnumber those who are remaining. All this means is that you're going to be one of the last members of town remaining if the game is called for them. I do believe your claim, as I said, but if we don't lynch you today it's because we believe you're confirmed town and not because you're useful to us any more outside your vote.

You're also assuming hes telling the truth about his role

Yes. i would bet at 75:25 odds that he's telling the truth. If he's lying that's another matter, but I just don't think he is.

Yeh Mtam its how the game works. You either believe or you do not. I stood my ground at the end of yesterday against lynching HS. Rishaed did as well. He could have jumped on either Wing or HS with no problem, "they were scummy bla blah blah". Town in my book.

Also those who are arguing that Rishaed is useless you are not thinking outside the box as to his use if we have a Town Busdriver.

Storr convince me to vote AOG

If he is untargetable by night actions then the Busdriver cannot target him.

[Iron Butterfly]

Duh. Brain Fart lol.

All that page space wasted.

Still. One could perhaps use that argument day one to lynch but at this point every town counts. If you believe Rishaed is Town there are others more worthy of lynching. Storr is useless as well. He is admittedly fighting for Town as a challange while Rishaed is fighting for Town as Town yet the focus is on Rishaed.

Rishaed has argued more for Townand made valid points. Mtam has not yet the focus on Rishaed.

I ask Storr again make a case against AoG.

[mtamburini]

If the mafia know you're unaffected by kills though you're not gonna be targeted


Its a low risk lynch. We lose nothing by killing you since you're not gonna be targeted by night actions...

Which is exactly why I wanted to maximize the chances of me being targeted N1 before I would have to claim. Like I said earlier. Also Losing nothing by killing me K You lose someone who the mafia can't kill in the night, meaning that the kill targets have to be other people narrowing down the potential targets. They could kill stor (I don't think they will unless they think he's lying about being a survivor and instead is the SK), but it cause the mafia (and SK if there is one) some inconvenience because they have to lynch me to get rid of me.

Except now that you've claimed, you're useless in the night. Even if you are alive tonight (and telling the truth), then mafia won't target you either way. You were much more useful before you had claimed -- now town doesn't lose much at all by lynching you. Mafia don't have to kill every single townie to win the game; they just have to kill enough that they outnumber those who are remaining. All this means is that you're going to be one of the last members of town remaining if the game is called for them. I do believe your claim, as I said, but if we don't lynch you today it's because we believe you're confirmed town and not because you're useful to us any more outside your vote.

You're also assuming hes telling the truth about his role

Yes. i would bet at 75:25 odds that he's telling the truth. If he's lying that's another matter, but I just don't think he is.

Yeh Mtam its how the game works. You either believe or you do not. I stood my ground at the end of yesterday against lynching HS. Rishaed did as well. He could have jumped on either Wing or HS with no problem, "they were scummy bla blah blah". Town in my book.

Also those who are arguing that Rishaed is useless you are not thinking outside the box as to his use if we have a Town Busdriver.

Storr convince me to vote AOG

If he is untargetable by night actions then the Busdriver cannot target him.

How did you come up with 3:1 and what do you think of his allignment based before and after his claim.

[mtamburini]

Yeh Mtam its how the game works. You either believe or you do not. I stood my ground at the end of yesterday against lynching HS. Rishaed did as well. He could have jumped on either Wing or HS with no problem, "they were scummy bla blah blah". Town in my book.

Also those who are arguing that Rishaed is useless you are not thinking outside the box as to his use if we have a Town Busdriver.

Storr convince me to vote AOG

Im going to take that as wifom considering that scum have perfect information, and that I think Rishead is scum and knows that he only has 1 partner (if there are any in the hotshot vote) and to force the issue of focus there and not on wing where more of his scum team vote. This is why I asked rishead why he was not looking into wing votes.

[mtamburini]

This theory is strong considering I think we might have 2 scum teams and maybe a survivor (storr)

[Iron Butterfly]

Yeh Mtam its how the game works. You either believe or you do not. I stood my ground at the end of yesterday against lynching HS. Rishaed did as well. He could have jumped on either Wing or HS with no problem, "they were scummy bla blah blah". Town in my book.

Also those who are arguing that Rishaed is useless you are not thinking outside the box as to his use if we have a Town Busdriver.

Storr convince me to vote AOG

Im going to take that as wifom considering that scum have perfect information, and that I think Rishead is scum and knows that he only has 1 partner (if there are any in the hotshot vote) and to force the issue of focus there and not on wing where more of his scum team vote. This is why I asked rishead why he was not looking into wing votes.

There comes a point where you believe someone or you do not. That has nothing to do with WIFOM. You complain about it and then completely did it.

[StorrZerg]

Duh. Brain Fart lol.

All that page space wasted.

Still. One could perhaps use that argument day one to lynch but at this point every town counts. If you believe Rishaed is Town there are others more worthy of lynching. Storr is useless as well. He is admittedly fighting for Town as a challange while Rishaed is fighting for Town as Town yet the focus is on Rishaed.

Rishaed has argued more for Townand made valid points. Mtam has not yet the focus on Rishaed.

I ask Storr again make a case against AoG.

I did... Its all based on his day 1 play into day 2. Nothing has changed. If you dont want to comment on the case i made, then make your own comments on him so i can further the discussion. Reread day 1 near the end of the day, look at his stance on the lynch, look at how "desperate" town was getting for a lynch. You had a different perspective not wanting to lynch either, so its harder to see. But for people who wanted the lynch for information, Aog wasn't among them. Yet he was willing to lynch Hotshot.

[rishaed]

Spoiler

We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg

I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.

I completely agree but I think hotshot has TMI with this statement trying to buy some early day1 towncred EGMEOY

Wait, TMI? What information do I have? I wish I knew the information I'm supposed to know lol. I just think people saying people are scum for being defensive is kind of misguided when what else is he supposed to do except defend himself when people are voting him?

VOTE HOTSHOT

Hots last statement shows what being defensive is without receiving any kind of pressure, his sarcastic tone is also indictive of mafia.
SHEEP ME PLZ AND TY

Sure its D1 and its something (thank mets for that), but the sheeping request and the asinine comment about sarcasm=mafia sounded scummy to me at the time.

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k virus is town, don't lynch him ever kthx

Agreed, now lynch Hotshot with me bbq

all right pumpkins

Unvote
Vote Hotshot

Bloody Aes Sedai.

He would never wish Joline upon someone he liked. In fact, he was too gentlemanly to wish her on most of his enemies.

I was somewhat ticked at the expected play between storr and mtamb here.

We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg

I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.

I completely agree but I think hotshot has TMI with this statement trying to buy some early day1 towncred EGMEOY

Wait, TMI? What information do I have? I wish I knew the information I'm supposed to know lol. I just think people saying people are scum for being defensive is kind of misguided when what else is he supposed to do except defend himself when people are voting him?

VOTE HOTSHOT

Hots last statement shows what being defensive is without receiving any kind of pressure, his sarcastic tone is also indictive of mafia.
SHEEP ME PLZ AND TY

"What is it? Did the man insult you?"
If sarcasm indicated Mafia, I'd be hanged ten times over by now. vote Mtamburini
Also don't like the wagon, its too quick and reeeks of scum.
Yes, he could smell something. A distant, lingering scent that seemed out of place.

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"What is it? Did the man insult you?"
If sarcasm indicated Mafia, I'd be hanged ten times over by now. vote Mtamburini
Also don't like the wagon, its too quick and reeeks of scum.
Yes, he could smell something. A distant, lingering scent that seemed out of place.

So you vote for the person who founded the case, yet you say the wagon reeks of scum but don't vote for someone wagoning on...

as for your other point, i don't see what you mean by it. Some people do get sarcastic when they are mafia, in attempt to throw off heat. Some people are always sarcastic, thus the read would be null, tambs point is that hotshot gets sarcastic when he is mafia.

Also, you have a minimal influence on the game right now in the direction of a lynch. Rereading your posts, sure you have spoken defensively of some, called out someone you think is mafia, yet your vote on mtamb is weak, and are lacking in furthering discussion in the game.

Including this one for giggles. If I had to say who really started the case, it was Mets. Also it was an early gut feeling on Mtamb, that I thought was worthy of a vote early game. Sure the people going on the wagon deserved some looking at, but i thought the request for sheeping to be more critical.

I was starting to forget mtamb and then he said

Is hotshot really not dead yet? Everything else really bores me, Ive read a few things on mets I could be swayed to go that way too but I think ive got hotshot dead to rights.

Really? I could have never guessed based off of your first statement... I don't think being a little defensive and sarcastic=Dead to rights

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"What is it? Did the man insult you?"
If sarcasm indicated Mafia, I'd be hanged ten times over by now. vote Mtamburini
Also don't like the wagon, its too quick and reeeks of scum.
Yes, he could smell something. A distant, lingering scent that seemed out of place.

My thoughts on the whole rishead discussion:

So he can post with words of his own, but he chooses to post quotes from the same book over and over. I am really confused. I feel like if we pressured him, we might get whether he is being stupid or if he has a role... but I dont know. It's also possible that we have a similar role to that of in the game warewolf-- which is called the "tanner". The tanner wants to die. I dont know if that is the case for rishead but it seems to me like he wants to be lynched. Dont hold me to it, I am not sure if there is such a role in mafia, but I do know mafia and warewolf are similar.

[quoteDoomyoshi]This is an unofficial prized mafia game. The theme is Double Fanucci (which basically means it is unthemed). I have a custom made double fanucci deck that has some extra cards, so some roles may be surprising. It will be fairly standard, but may be unbalanced and/or have a few unusual roles. No Vanilla.

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Mets - You appear to be arguing that lynching Town is better than no lynch.

I say this in every single game: D1 lynches are no better than random and are likely actually worse from town's perspective, because most people vastly overrate their "scumhunting" skills. Someday folks will listen!

Are you serious? Ok you destroyed wing's argument about the 'no lynch' but I can't believe you still consider a D1 lynch inferior to an RNG lynch.

The numbers don't lie -- town are not better at catching scum than an RNG on D1. As for the question of whether I'd actually prefer a random number generator to choose a D1 lynch -- I don't know! I'm not sure what the right answer is. Obviously I don't want to just take a townie away for no valid reason. However, sometimes people can generate really bad cases D1. (It's happened to me a couple times over the last year, even.) So the RNG lynch might actually help us compared to the lynch that town did make. But this might be offset by the leads and cases that are generated in later days. It is often hard to know until many days later. I find the argument plausible that we should probably lynch on D1 even in the face of little data -- indeed, that's what I meant when I advocated D1 'random' lynches, not actual RNG lynches -- but I'm not very confident in it.

I can't tell if you are deliberately trying to derail the conversation from actual scumhunting or if you are just completely missing the point. I am not an expert by any means in Mafia but what I gather is this... Ready? Ok:

A lynch based on the town's votes gets more discussion going day 2 than a random lynch would. It isn't about what the % is on flipping mafia, but rather on what said person flips, and night actions done. We can then go back, analyze posts from D1 and try to figure out who is scummy.

With that, unvote, vote mets because of this stupid idiotic arguing. I still think hotshot has somewhat of a case but I honestly dont think mets is as dense as he is portraying himself right now.

Something felt wrong on the wind, and his senses itched at him. Be wary. Be prepared. unvote Vote NoS
NoS it seems you are "stating the truth Creatively" and its scummy.

Is hotshot really not dead yet? Everything else really bores me, Ive read a few things on mets I could be swayed to go that way too but I think ive got hotshot dead to rights.

She'd been expecting this for some time, but that didn't make it any less frustrating.
@Storr Because every time he opens his mouth he reeks of scum.
Lynch NoS/mtamb.
"You change, Perrin Aybara," Gaul said.
"What's that?" Perrin said, taking Stepper from a groom.
"This is a good thing," Gaul replied. "It is good to see you stop protesting about being chief. It is better to see you enjoy command."
"I've stopped protesting because I have better things to do," Perrin said. "And I don't enjoy being in command. I do it because i have to."[/quote]

Hey what I said matches up with what i said back then
I wasn't planning on being the one making cases in the day. I got on NoS because I didn't like how I thought he was slightly twisting what Mets was saying.

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I'd still lynch him after his claim.

Reading on phone sucks I'll just say few tr right now cause battery is low.

I like wing virus stor and teegee.

Not sure if you are referring to Hotshot or NoS, but I only left this one because I didn't like wings comments and overeagerness to just lynch someone.
Either way... Not even caring what Hotshots role is or lynching the claimed Doc D1 without caring which is pretty damnable in my sight.

rishaed is getting confusing and annoying now

I'm starting to become tickled by some of his quote choices. Maybe it won't be so bad to have him around.

This just made me smile. I'm glad someone got enjoyment out of my quote choices.

Hole

Bets on TeeGee providing the Hammer?

Counter claims wont work as we could have no doc, five docs or just one.

Is a Doc who is known to be a Doc any use? This is the point when my experience lets me down. Surely he'll just get nightkilled before he can do anything useful?

Fp'd by NoS

So basically what you are saying (Mets) is:

Hotshot or Streaker. Place your votes people, we have till tomorrow!

NoS can live one day, and if he survives we can kill him D2 Not that it is in anyway conclusive for him to still be alive D2.

fp'd by NoS

Which cliff did you choose?
The highest, he admitted.
unvote vote WingCmdr Trigger happy on D1 Lynch. Understand you're new, but after those three quotes I say your scum especially after doc claim.
Why?
I figured that once you've decided to jump off a cliff, you might as well pick the highest one. Why accept the risk, if not for the greatest prize?

Diggingdeeper

Surprising you are still this willing to lynch a claimed doc.

And if we dont? What happens when the next person gets to L-1? They claim town cop and we all back off?

This was my Case on Wing at the time. Its also why I'm not sorry I made it to get the claim.

Wing really has been all over the place lately, it's a pretty classic example of mafia being boxed in and throwing out lots of accusations to defuse the tension against them. On the other hand, it also sounds like something a newb would do, so I don't know what to make of it.

Reading back I'm really liking quite a few of met's posts. Of course he was right about it just being a noob mistake.

We should definitly be lynching NOS or HOTs IMO based on hots last reason to vote for wing, why the f*ck would you want to kill someone who you think is third party

Do you really have to ask mtamb? 3rd party does not have to be pro town. Also we didn't have Hotshots claim at the time, and you are already ready to start tying the rope and gather a crowd.

Hotshot not considering he could be mafia but only third party means he is mafia looking to elimint his teams threat to winning.

Not sure what you mean here... of course I'm considering the chance he is mafia (or town), I just think he is third party at this time. If I was mafia and wanted him eliminated, I'd say he was scum... so your argument really doesn't make sense.

Got a bunch of the same stuff around pg 18.. but this really sums it up.

Still liking Mets here

Oh feck confused. I Investigate ROLE.

Like, this is so newbie that I'm pretty sure we should give Wing a pass tonight. There are pretend levels of newbie you can play as scum to pass off mistakes, but this is just too much.

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also, is a rolecop really that useful to town anyway? Roles without alignments seem useless.

I guess maybe there's a scenerio where Wing checks two people, they both end up being bus drivers and since two busdrivers are unlikely to be the same alignment we can try to lynch both, but that would be a rare scenerio (that would presuppose there are two of the same alignment and that Wing checks both of them).

By that logic he has presented already to us saying he doesn't think hell be extremely helpful so you bringing it up as a reason to lynch him is complete BS.

My legacy,

LYNCH HOTSHOT AOG

NEVER LYNCH STORR VIRUS WING

The never lynch part made me a bit ticked off here... I think I said something about it in a later quote...'

Hotshotclaim

@dd515087 - Are you going to vote today? Your vote on Streaker is the random vote from the start.

vote HotShot

Almost done catching up, just a couple pages left... You guys had so many posts

I do think HotShot is the best lynch as of now though.

I guess that puts me at L-2 and claim time, hope you're happy storr lol.

I am Last Fromp, Town Roleblocker. Since win conditions now seem to be part of claims, I have a generic town win condition... to those who have stated they have one also, should I paraphrase it? I don't want to give it away to scum since it seems to be a big issue this game, but if needed to avoid a mislynch on me, I will.

For some reason, my name and my role are in two difference colors... not sure if that means anything or not, or if DY was just having fun with colors.

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@dd515087 - Are you going to vote today? Your vote on Streaker is the random vote from the start.

vote HotShot

Almost done catching up, just a couple pages left... You guys had so many posts

I do think HotShot is the best lynch as of now though.

I guess that puts me at L-2 and claim time, hope you're happy storr lol.

I am Last Fromp, Town Roleblocker. Since win conditions now seem to be part of claims, I have a generic town win condition... to those who have stated they have one also, should I paraphrase it? I don't want to give it away to scum since it seems to be a big issue this game, but if needed to avoid a mislynch on me, I will.

For some reason, my name and my role are in two difference colors... not sure if that means anything or not, or if DY was just having fun with colors.

I am sure you have not thought of PMing DY to make sure it is not some mistake?

"The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills, Rand.
I can confirm multiple colors now that the cat is out of the bag.
Also unvote as much as I don't like wing, and mtamb and storr can shove it with the "Don't vote these ppl ever thing", I am not sure I want to lynch him today, or any of the claims for that matter.
Also as far as scum claims Roleblocker is as equally scummy as rolecop perhaps less so, so that argument holds no water between the two.

This is where I confirm multiple colors in the role PM, and rebuff things based on Role=Scum thing here. It was getting pretty difficult to find quotes to say what I wanted and I just didn't have the time to find individual quotes by hand to say the technical things.

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who hasn't voted then. Ooo ib and tails no voted.


Shiittt

I now believe Hotshot is telling the truth.He had no reason to disclose the multi color aspect of his role. NONE. Rishaed confirmed that aspect. I am not lynching someone I believe is telling the truth simply to lynch someone.

And that pretty well brings us up to right now Minus whatever one liners Mtamb has made today.
Overall I'd say I'd drop Mets from the claims i want today just because I've like so many of his posts. (Personal Opinion). Dd is well.....still scummy in my eyes, but mtamb is the one i like the least.

[virus90]

Well im still where i am last post, mtam aog main scum candidates for me. think AoG might be the sure pick to go with, i think seriously noone is town reading him at the moment, so it might just be the best pick.
as for mtam, still a good pic in my opinion, can ask same question 10 times and he refuses to answer basicly... if it was storr asking me i would have been lynched ages ago.,.. and i kind of dislike this flawed system where you have to answer to some but not to others...

the rishaed vote was a quick one... im not to sure on what to think of the claim, it seems overpowered... then again he is not my biggest scum read...
to be honest i think it might be wise to lync at somepoint , unless he proves himself as definatly town but the inability to nk ... i just dont know... but bigger fish to fry i for today is my opinion and as i said not particul scum feeling about him

[Army of GOD]

Still want a role though rishead or my vote goes back on

I'm pretty sure he claimed commuter which is almost never an every night thing. It's a 1 shot, 2 shot, or every other night thing.

At least that's what I took from it.

Thats NOT what i claimed. I claimed immunity from night actions, no x-shot, no variance. At this point i would have specified, its not my first rodeo boy. I also know what a commuter is as i've modded it in my Once upon a killer game.

I was the commuter in your Once Upon a Killer game... so yes I understand. I only said what I thought you were claiming. I want to believe your town, but the arguments against AoG and mtam are kind of weak right now. I'm just sticking with my gut, can't blame me for that.

Also never heard of your role (doesn't mean much, but it's a little weird)

Or are you sticking with the majority's "gut"?

...Is this a f***ing joke? Let's just repeat what rishaed is saying? Yeah and I'm the one sheeping Geez. I'm pretty convinced the scum team is rish/NoS/AoG or mtam... More likely AoG. Could be both too though

Wait what? You think rish and I are both scum? Or am I reading this wrong...


Jsyk I'm one of the few who kept my vote on him after his claim...

[Iron Butterfly]

need an official vote count as deadline is Thursday.

[DoomYoshi]

Vote Count

Army of GOD (1) - StorrZerg
rishaed (3) - Army of GOD, dd515087, mtamburini L-3
mtamburini (2) - Iron Butterfly, virus90

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[StorrZerg]

Let's go someone talk to me about aog

[dd515087]

@AoG I was saying NoS is scum not you. Not that I think you are town, but I think NoS is worse from that post.

I'm going to go ahead and unvote rishaed for now, I really liked the analysis on mtam. Not totally sold on you being town, but you actually made a case on one of us instead of just asking for claims.

I still don't like NoS, AoG, and now mtam. NoS doesn't have anyone else reading him scum though. I think a mtam or AoG lynch is best.

@storr where is your case on AoG? All you've said is you don't like the way he is posting?

I'm going to be away from my computer all day tomorrow so I'll try and get a reread on mtam and AoG before then, but I might not be back until Wednesday night

[rishaed]

@AoG I was saying NoS is scum not you. Not that I think you are town, but I think NoS is worse from that post.

I'm going to go ahead and unvote rishaed for now, I really liked the analysis on mtam. Not totally sold on you being town, but you actually made a case on one of us instead of just asking for claims.

I still don't like NoS, AoG, and now mtam. NoS doesn't have anyone else reading him scum though. I think a mtam or AoG lynch is best.

@storr where is your case on AoG? All you've said is you don't like the way he is posting?

I'm going to be away from my computer all day tomorrow so I'll try and get a reread on mtam and AoG before then, but I might not be back until Wednesday night

I'm just gonna shake my head at this for now....

[rishaed]

Vote Count

Army of GOD (1) - StorrZerg
rishaed (3) - Army of GOD, dd515087, mtamburini L-3
mtamburini (2) - Iron Butterfly, virus90

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

BAAAAAAA!!!

Pretty much how i feel right now.

[rishaed]

Vote Count

Army of GOD (1) - StorrZerg
rishaed (3) - Army of GOD, dd515087, mtamburini L-3
mtamburini (2) - Iron Butterfly, virus90

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Also pretty sure my votes on mtamb. If not lets fix it. unvote Vote Mtamburini