Matrix Mafia Endgame, Town and Survivors win!

[cowboyz]

I would like to hear from Doom, he is not clear but Jak and Doom are supposed mason's

What are you trying hear from them about? The flavor of their masonry or how their chars fit together? I tend to believe it and havent been given thoughts otherwise and based on that mafia wouldnt be mason'ed for simplistic purposes. Only reason would be you think they are lying.

Not sure where you are going with this?

I meant Im pretty sure they are what they say they are, so I would like there thoughts on the game thus far.
They would be more trustworthy sources to go off of since they seem to have pretty high chances of being town.

[Leehar]

I'm not certain since I didn't actually search for the posts again. But didn't Skill and ghostly recuse themselves yesterday because they were going on vacation or would be away for a while?
I'm pretty confident on ghostly at least, so did you skim something along the way Jak to think he'd still be active?

Hmm, let me put something together since I'm still breathing. Mafia aren't annoyed with me at least yet ^^.

So the 3 VT's were
Eldario
Hippo
Neb

I'm going to have to say Neb is the most suspicious out of the claimed VT's because of how he worded Betiko living... Like where did that come from? So, FOS Neb

Finally, the inactives..
Skillfulsniper (First post of the day was already skimmed)
Cowboyz (Sort of in and out lately, so semi-inactive)
Djfireside (Literally, just posting once every few days as to not draw heat)
Edocsil (Before today, he hasn't posted since the 23rd, so for the week from the 23-30 he was inactive)
Ghostly (VERY inactive, has less than half a page of posts, usually posts once every few days)
Soundman (Semi-inactive, low post count if you count after joke vote stage)
Spartacus (Last posted 26th, however his post count is also way down, and in general inactive)

Okay, once I take away the 2 semi inactives, I'm still left with 5 inactives. That's actually scary.

Out of those two lists, these are the ones I'd vote to pressure.
~Skillfulsniper
~Djfireside
~Edocsil
~Ghostly
~Spartacus
~Neb

However, I'll wait to see if anyone has info they'd like to share before I put my vote toward anyone and make my final decision. For now.
FOS Neb
FOS Djfireside
FOS Skullfulsniper

And the rest I'm just willing to vote for if there's info on them or pressure is needed to get them more active.

Any objections?

Fasposted x2... We have a mason pair Hippo, and it's not even been a day yet, give him time to respond.

[betiko]

side note to jak: spartacus is no longer in the game, he was replaced by pmc; and a guy replaced crazymilkshake, showed up during the night and we still haven't heard from him, but i guess he has lots of reading to do.

[pmchugh]

Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Anyway...betiko lives. I say he starts out with his list...even though he was wrong on freezer. That will at least get some discussion going.

what??? do you have some info about me being originally targeted there before a busdrive? how would you know that? and I made no list nor said anything about freezie..

also white suit = seraph?

oops...I think I meant pmchugh....

Has everyone just missed this post? He meant me, the fact that he talks about my list and how I was wrong on freezie clearly indicates he just mixed up names. Now lets put his posts into context.

Ok f*ck this, got to page 41 and I am falling asleep. Blame the football.

But anyway, as of page 41 the scum are:

Freezie, everywhere, jonty and skillful. Any questions?

Call me a sheep...UNVOTE VOTE Freezie. A fresh set of eyes on 41 pages is going to pick up something that those of use who have been stuck in the back forth can't. I'm all for a new direction...Let's start with Freezie.

That should be a lynch...if not, let's end this day and move on. I am interested in pmchugh observations...seems like a good place to start day two.

UNVOTE VOTE Eldario

That should be a lynch...if not, let's end this day and move on. I am interested in pmchugh observations...seems like a good place to start day two.

UNVOTE VOTE Eldario

Thanks for placing a target on my head. Doc on me

I posted a list of scum, he was interested in it but we lynched eldario due to lack of time. He said he wanted to start day 2 with my list (he has been consistent on this) and because of this I blamed him for putting a target on my back, hence "Anyway....pmchugh lives".

As soon as you change our names, everything makes sense and you guys are creating a case out of thin air.

[soundman]

Also, for now I'd also like to chase some of the inactives from yesterday, there were quite a few that I don't think picked up their inactivity any.

So Vote Soundman as one of the submariners I actually remember!

ok i like the case on neb it seems well thought out and all but. i just dont wana jump on a bandwagon yet this early in the day. so i think pressuring an inactive is a good idea and if no info comes from it i will vote for neb.vote soundman

Really? I'm way more active than several other players and if I remember correctly I posted just about every other day.

Anyway I posted in the Vacation thread but figured I should post here too. I won't have time to post at all until Monday. I should be able to keep up with the reading but don't expect anything from me until Monday.

[Djfireside]

I would like to hear from Doom, he is not clear but Jak and Doom are supposed mason's

What are you trying hear from them about? The flavor of their masonry or how their chars fit together? I tend to believe it and havent been given thoughts otherwise and based on that mafia wouldnt be mason'ed for simplistic purposes. Only reason would be you think they are lying.

Not sure where you are going with this?

I meant Im pretty sure they are what they say they are, so I would like there thoughts on the game thus far.

They would be more trustworthy sources to go off of since they seem to have pretty high chances of being town.

Thanks for the clarify. While everyone is suspect I tended to believe this claim so just wanted your thought if you had a different opinion.

Pmc. That does clear up some things as at one point I do remember going back trying to find betikos list. He does come across using your list and I think he got taken in a weird context. There are a few other noted things he can respond to but that does cover how the thought process came about.

Fp.ed

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Also, for now I'd also like to chase some of the inactives from yesterday, there were quite a few that I don't think picked up their inactivity any.

So Vote Soundman as one of the submariners I actually remember!

ok i like the case on neb it seems well thought out and all but. i just dont wana jump on a bandwagon yet this early in the day. so i think pressuring an inactive is a good idea and if no info comes from it i will vote for neb.vote soundman

Really? I'm way more active than several other players and if I remember correctly I posted just about every other day.

Anyway I posted in the Vacation thread but figured I should post here too. I won't have time to post at all until Monday. I should be able to keep up with the reading but don't expect anything from me until Monday.

well thanks leehar you make me look stupid! unvote someone said you were inactive and i guess im stupid for just believing what someone said.

[Leehar]

Also, for now I'd also like to chase some of the inactives from yesterday, there were quite a few that I don't think picked up their inactivity any.

So Vote Soundman as one of the submariners I actually remember!

Really? I'm way more active than several other players and if I remember correctly I posted just about every other day.

You have all of 14 posts (including confirmations and joke-vote stage) in the last 800 posts, and I don't remember anything much of value case-wise or anything coming from you. The fact that you're indicating you're posting every other day indicates some premeditated submarining in trying to appear active when you're totally not.
I don't mind giving you a hold of abeyance in lieu of your vacation.

Also, for now I'd also like to chase some of the inactives from yesterday, there were quite a few that I don't think picked up their inactivity any.

So Vote Soundman as one of the submariners I actually remember!

ok i like the case on neb it seems well thought out and all but. i just dont wana jump on a bandwagon yet this early in the day. so i think pressuring an inactive is a good idea and if no info comes from it i will vote for neb.vote soundman

Really? I'm way more active than several other players and if I remember correctly I posted just about every other day.

Anyway I posted in the Vacation thread but figured I should post here too. I won't have time to post at all until Monday. I should be able to keep up with the reading but don't expect anything from me until Monday.

well thanks leehar you make me look stupid! unvote someone said you were inactive and i guess im stupid for just believing what someone said.

Yup, perhaps you should use the grey matter a little more...

[betiko]

pmc that makes sense. I was like wtf when i saw him say "anyway betiko lives"out of the blue to start the day, just after saf's scene and i was really focused on freezie's busdrive and linked both. really looked like a scum slip but it makes sense with what he was saying before.

unvote

[cowboyz]

Last vote count is a good place to start. We should be able to pull some info off this

Vote Count

Neb(2)- cm5, edoc
dazza(1)- freezie
hippo(6)- cowboyz, dazza, eldario, mob, doom
eldario(13)- shield, hippo, DJ, IB, jonty, chuck, clever, jak, everywhere, pmc, jonty, betiko, neb


eldario has been lynched, scene upcoming.

I still want to hear more from IB base on my previous thoughts on his OMGUS reactions D1. He also voted for eldario and has yet to speak up about N1.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

neb(2)- jonty, everywhere
sound(1)- Leehar

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

[Iron Butterfly]

Last vote count is a good place to start. We should be able to pull some info off this

Vote Count

Neb(2)- cm5, edoc
dazza(1)- freezie
hippo(6)- cowboyz, dazza, eldario, mob, doom
eldario(13)- shield, hippo, DJ, IB, jonty, chuck, clever, jak, everywhere, pmc, jonty, betiko, neb


eldario has been lynched, scene upcoming.

I still want to hear more from IB base on my previous thoughts on his OMGUS reactions D1. He also voted for eldario and has yet to speak up about N1.

I wont be on much this weekend as I work late into evenings.

Cowboyz if you wish me to comment on something from day one because you feel something has not been adequately addressed I suggest you pull up the quotes. If you have feelings, information or a point of view post them. I am not going to dig through day one to look for your posts because you want me to respond to it.

But seeing you wish to bring the topic up I assume you are referring to page 28? You talk of OMGUS reactions...could you please define what you mean. In my eyes OMGUS implies voting in retaliation for an argument put against them. Something I obviously did not do. You on the other hand posted false information. I simply wanted you to clarify your source of information.

If you go back to day one I explained my logic on my voting.

As far as night one I tend to agree with the observations already posted. Beyond white suit flavor (I don't believe there were alot of white suits in the movies) and a strong case for a bus driver everything else would be pure speculation at this point of the game.

[SPARTACUS1974]

Hmm, let me put something together since I'm still breathing. Mafia aren't annoyed with me at least yet ^^.

So the 3 VT's were
Eldario
Hippo
Neb

I'm going to have to say Neb is the most suspicious out of the claimed VT's because of how he worded Betiko living... Like where did that come from? So, FOS Neb

Finally, the inactives..
Skillfulsniper (First post of the day was already skimmed)
Cowboyz (Sort of in and out lately, so semi-inactive)
Djfireside (Literally, just posting once every few days as to not draw heat)
Edocsil (Before today, he hasn't posted since the 23rd, so for the week from the 23-30 he was inactive)
Ghostly (VERY inactive, has less than half a page of posts, usually posts once every few days)
Soundman (Semi-inactive, low post count if you count after joke vote stage)
Spartacus (Last posted 26th, however his post count is also way down, and in general inactive)

Okay, once I take away the 2 semi inactives, I'm still left with 5 inactives. That's actually scary.

Out of those two lists, these are the ones I'd vote to pressure.
~Skillfulsniper
~Djfireside
~Edocsil
~Ghostly
~Spartacus
~Neb

However, I'll wait to see if anyone has info they'd like to share before I put my vote toward anyone and make my final decision. For now.
FOS Neb
FOS Djfireside
FOS Skullfulsniper

And the rest I'm just willing to vote for if there's info on them or pressure is needed to get them more active.

Any objections?

Fasposted x2... We have a mason pair Hippo, and it's not even been a day yet, give him time to respond.

sorry jak i have asked to be replaced last week due to work so take me off your list lol

[jonty125]

As soon as you change our names, everything makes sense and you guys are creating a case out of thin air.

OK, unvote now things begin to add up again. I still find the whole try and start a case on freezie and then join the Eldario wagon suspicious but I'm sure I can find something better to vote on.


FOS S7C for what seems to be blatantly following Leehar
I would FOS jak for posting a list of inactives, including replaced people but he seems to be cleared with his mason partnership with Doom

I would like to hear from Doom, he is not clear but Jak and Doom are supposed mason's

What would you like him to do? He bailed jak out by claiming their paired masonship

[Some7hingCLEVER]

As soon as you change our names, everything makes sense and you guys are creating a case out of thin air.

OK, unvote now things begin to add up again. I still find the whole try and start a case on freezie and then join the Eldario wagon suspicious but I'm sure I can find something better to vote on.


FOS S7C for what seems to be blatantly following Leehar
I would FOS jak for posting a list of inactives, including replaced people but he seems to be cleared with his mason partnership with Doom

I would like to hear from Doom, he is not clear but Jak and Doom are supposed mason's

What would you like him to do? He bailed jak out by claiming their paired masonship

oh god. did you not see the post i did it in. did you not see the post after it? stop skimming.

[jonty125]

As soon as you change our names, everything makes sense and you guys are creating a case out of thin air.

OK, unvote now things begin to add up again. I still find the whole try and start a case on freezie and then join the Eldario wagon suspicious but I'm sure I can find something better to vote on.


FOS S7C for what seems to be blatantly following Leehar
I would FOS jak for posting a list of inactives, including replaced people but he seems to be cleared with his mason partnership with Doom

I would like to hear from Doom, he is not clear but Jak and Doom are supposed mason's

What would you like him to do? He bailed jak out by claiming their paired masonship

oh god. did you not see the post i did it in. did you not see the post after it? stop skimming.

I saw you had asked the question but missed cowboyz reply.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

As soon as you change our names, everything makes sense and you guys are creating a case out of thin air.

OK, unvote now things begin to add up again. I still find the whole try and start a case on freezie and then join the Eldario wagon suspicious but I'm sure I can find something better to vote on.


FOS S7C for what seems to be blatantly following Leehar
I would FOS jak for posting a list of inactives, including replaced people but he seems to be cleared with his mason partnership with Doom

I would like to hear from Doom, he is not clear but Jak and Doom are supposed mason's

What would you like him to do? He bailed jak out by claiming their paired masonship

oh god. did you not see the post i did it in. did you not see the post after it? stop skimming.

I saw you had asked the question but missed cowboyz reply.

understood and forgiven.

[jak111]

I'm not certain since I didn't actually search for the posts again. But didn't Skill and ghostly recuse themselves yesterday because they were going on vacation or would be away for a while?
I'm pretty confident on ghostly at least, so did you skim something along the way Jak to think he'd still be active?

Even if Skill did, he's not rescue himself, he's still suspected for the posts he made today.
As for Ghostly, he's somewhat excused, but he really hasn't contributed much/anything since the beginning. He wasn't away for the entire month.

side note to jak: spartacus is no longer in the game, he was replaced by pmc; and a guy replaced crazymilkshake, showed up during the night and we still haven't heard from him, but i guess he has lots of reading to do.

Yea, I noticed that AFTER I finished the list. It's hard remembering who in what game is where. I really need to start making notes with microsoft word or something.

As for now, anyone else got any leads?

[Leehar]

I really need to start making notes with microsoft word or something.

You can save posts over here as well if you want to store it somewhere easily accessible

[jak111]

I really need to start making notes with microsoft word or something.

You can save posts over here as well if you want to store it somewhere easily accessible

Really now? This sounds interesting. I haven't used this feature before. How do you go about using it?

[Leehar]

go to post reply, and next to submit/preview there's a save button?...

[jak111]

Ah, I was wondering what the save was for for the longest time, just never thought to ask people XD. Thanks Leehar.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Ah, I was wondering what the save was for for the longest time, just never thought to ask people XD. Thanks Leehar.

lol i think i have a post for this game in the save thing for a long time lol

[thehippo8]

Ah, I was wondering what the save was for for the longest time, just never thought to ask people XD. Thanks Leehar.

Well I guess if no one wants to play mafia we can always turn this into a techie thread!

[jak111]

Ah, I was wondering what the save was for for the longest time, just never thought to ask people XD. Thanks Leehar.

Well I guess if no one wants to play mafia we can always turn this into a techie thread!

Well, I'm not saying we should stop playing mafia, this was all based off of notes FOR MAFIA.