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Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:34 pm**

Alright, well what do you want me to say right now? Give ideas of where to go? I mean besides me, I dont think sully ever gave a full claim, so that might be a person of interest. Or the one who, you know, shot our cop? Question him at least? Sorry that Im pretty much asking lots of questions, Ive had a long day, and so Im not in one piece.

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:04 pm**

thehippo8 wrote:unvote

I've been reviewing everyone who's left and it dawned on me that we have assumed newguy1 is town just because he was in on th vote against the Godfather. It is not inconceivable the mafia would loose one of their own to try and get another to the end. In perusing all of newguy1's posts (and I won't list them unless you care me to as I got growled at for that last time!) he is either bandwagoning or duckshoving or otherwise appearing agreeable. But what do we know about him really?

Time for some pressure ... vote newguy1

While I understand what you mean about him flying under the radar, I don't think diversion is a good idea when we have such a rich case lead as it is.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:30 am**

soundman wrote:Vote Count:

SPARTACUS1974 - Isaiah - (L4)
isaiah40 - Doom - (L4)
thehippo8
Victor Sullivan
TeeGee - Spartacus - (L4)
new guy1 - Hippo - (L4)
DoomYoshi
jak111

With 8 alive it takes 5 to make someone walk the plank.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:39 am**

TeeGee wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:As for isaiah, maybe if he knows, he can say how he came across his gun.

All that I know is that I was given a gun, and that is the truth.

Hmmm ... I assume you were given the gun at the commencement of the game ... vote isaiah40

Hippo, I know for a fact that isaiah did not have the gun at the beginning of the game

so what night was he given the gun?

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:41 am**

to isaiah you say you were roleblocked again ? i cant see this at all because if you were bus driven with teegee and i put you in jail how would you have got the gun?

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:01 am**

SPARTACUS1974 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:
thehippo8 wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:As for isaiah, maybe if he knows, he can say how he came across his gun.

All that I know is that I was given a gun, and that is the truth.

Hmmm ... I assume you were given the gun at the commencement of the game ... vote isaiah40

Hippo, I know for a fact that isaiah did not have the gun at the beginning of the game

so what night was he given the gun?

I gave him the gun on night 2... I will have to go back to then to work out what made me sure he was town.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:13 pm**

ok so i still dont know why you gave him the gun and why he even fired it?

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:29 pm**

Damn Isaiah... you should've waited until we were clear on something. Because that was a stupid move, Nebuch was about to give us some info <.<

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:48 pm**

Victor Sullivan wrote:unvote

-Sully

Lol.

-Sully

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:49 pm**

SPARTACUS1974 wrote:to isaiah you say you were roleblocked again ? i cant see this at all because if you were bus driven with teegee and i put you in jail how would you have got the gun?

Apparently, TeeGee gave me the gun on night 2. The night 2 part is correct. I was roleblocked on night 3.

Posted: **Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:59 pm**

A musical interlude while we wait for something to happen.

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:21 pm**

Ok, a rundown of what is happening:

1. SPARTACUS1974 - town jailkeeper; wants to pressure teegee due to roleblocking lining up with a lack of kills

3. isaiah40 - tracker; could be mafia or town; killed the cop and IMO, places a huge target on his head
4. thehippo8 - ship captain, town vig; semi-believable.
Yes, there should be a captain, but in a mutiny the captain is the person who either was the target of the mutiny OR the leader of it. Mafia might have been given fakeclaims. The main reason I question the claim is that vig is the best mafia fakeclaim since mafia always have an alibi for what they are doing at night. Problem is that he targetted a mafia night 1, so this only works if there are indeed 2 mafias. Not overly scummy though, so I am more bringing this up to prove that hippo is not cleared; not that he is scum
5. Victor Sullivan - a parrot (shakes fist at soundman)

7. TeeGee - gave isaiah a gun on night 2 :roll:

, when there was no proof that isaiah was town. Either teegee is scumbuddy covering for isaiah or he was just misguided. As of day 2, there was no evidence which cleared isaiah.
8. new guy1 - targeted victor. Fairly quiet, probably good idea to keep an eye on
14. jak111 - fairly vociferous, hammered a townie yesterday but then complained about it... even though his main target was our cop. Highly suspicious

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:35 pm**

DoomYoshi wrote:Ok, a rundown of what is happening:

1. SPARTACUS1974 - town jailkeeper; wants to pressure teegee due to roleblocking lining up with a lack of kills

3. isaiah40 - tracker; could be mafia or town; killed the cop and IMO, places a huge target on his head
4. thehippo8 - ship captain, town vig; semi-believable.
Yes, there should be a captain, but in a mutiny the captain is the person who either was the target of the mutiny OR the leader of it. Mafia might have been given fakeclaims. The main reason I question the claim is that vig is the best mafia fakeclaim since mafia always have an alibi for what they are doing at night. Problem is that he targetted a mafia night 1, so this only works if there are indeed 2 mafias. Not overly scummy though, so I am more bringing this up to prove that hippo is not cleared; not that he is scum
5. Victor Sullivan - a parrot (shakes fist at soundman)

7. TeeGee - gave isaiah a gun on night 2 , when there was no proof that isaiah was town. Either teegee is scumbuddy covering for isaiah or he was just misguided. As of day 2, there was no evidence which cleared isaiah.
8. new guy1 - targeted victor. Fairly quiet, probably good idea to keep an eye on
14. jak111 - fairly vociferous, hammered a townie yesterday but then complained about it... even though his main target was our cop. Highly suspicious

Yea, I hammered him because it was obvious it was going to happen, I told people he was town but no one listened, so I helped them with the vote to prove them all... excuse my term here... idiots. Yes, my main target was Neb, I had valid reasons even though he showed up town, don't tell me you've never made cases on a townie strongly before. Although where am I suspicious at? I am confirmed to be Mason with CMS. No one has counter claimed me, not a single one of you.

Still funny to find that even without a night action I am giving the town as much info as I can. If you don't like my contributions Doom, the plank is still up.

Without further ado, I am going to update my previous list...

SPARTACUS1974 (Claims Jailkeeper)
isaiah40 - Tracked Sully, says Sully didn't go anywhere. Received a gun from TeeGee
thehippo8 - Claims Captain (Vig with 2 shots, both which are gone now).
Victor Sullivan - Was visited by 3 people, still alive.
TeeGee - Gave Isaiah a gun
new guy1 - Visited Sully, Sully is still alive.
DoomYoshi - Was blocked by CLEVER
jak111 - (Since I'm a mason I can't do anything and no one did anything to me last night... I hope <.< >.>)

So while most of this is just copy and paste I updated it a tiny bit and took away people who are now dead.

With the info I have now and roles revealed, there are a few things I want to get out.
What is New Guy? He visited Sully (CONFIRMED BY GHOSTLY BEFORE HE DIED!) He isn't the cop, he isn't a tracker or a watcher.... He isn't a vig or Sully would be dead. Hmm, whatever he is I am interested now. Busdriver perhaps? If so, then his info might change my list completely.
Another question I have, is how was Isiah blocked if Spatacus put Teegee in jail? Hmm? Either we're dealing with a mafia roleblocker (highly likely) or Isaiah is mafia. I don't think Sparta is mafia but he does sound over powered. (Or a busdriver)
If the busdriver is town we need him to step forward, because right now his night actions have a HUGE impact on who is cleared and who's not. If he switched Teegee with Isaiah it is possible that Isaiah is mafia.

Though another thing I want people's opinion on... If we are to believe Hippo's two shots (Which he did N1 and N2) and there was an SK until end of N2... We might be dealing with just a single kill a night, if so we are just dealing with the mafia faction. Which, do not take my list for 100% but here's who I have.

Hippo - Claims Captain with 2 shots (Limited Vig)
TeeGee - Didn't claim but gave Isaiah a gun???
Isaiah - Claims Tracker, although he received a gun and shot Neb when he was believing Sparta was mafia???
Sully - Claims Parrot, unknown role.
Spartacus - Claims jailkeeper, put Teegee in jail twice.

If we have a busdriver, it's either Sully or Teegee <.< Though a busdriving parrot, and a busdriver that can give people guns??? Doesn't add up, so perhaps this is no busdriver.
Out of these 5 TWO are mafia. (A game of 16 would be unfair for mafia if they only had 3 players) So the following is just a fer scenarios for people to consider.

Isaiah is claiming tracker and claiming to follow Sully, and says Sully hasn't went anywhere. Which is the only target he seems to be able to get since both other nights he was blocked? (Once by Everywhere, the 2nd from an unknown source) So he could be trying to clear the both of them.

Teegee is claiming to give his partner Isaiah a gun so they both can get away with a kill in daylight while Isaiah is saying he believed Sparta was mafia, while turning around and shooting Neb.

Those are the two main examples I have. But like I said, 2 of 5 of these guys are mafia. Isaiah sounds most likely to get some sort of result (Which if he turns up tracker it clears Sully) But before I go into it too far, I want to see either Sully or Teegee fully claim.

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:41 pm**

EBWOP... Actually I just remembered after I posted that last part, we MIGHT have a busdriver, either Doom or New Guy. So again, I am interested, because this is important at this point.

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:10 pm**

I am not a busdriver.

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:29 pm**

Then if New Guy is a busdriver we need to know. If he is... then that visit on Sully could've been to switch him with someone else which would mean Ghost and Isaiah (if Isaiah is tracker) Never did anything to Sully but whoever New Guy drove him with. If he is the driver.

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:55 pm**

jak111 wrote:Those are the two main examples I have. But like I said, 2 of 5 of these guys are mafia. Isaiah sounds most likely to get some sort of result (Which if he turns up tracker it clears Sully) But before I go into it too far, I want to see either Sully or Teegee fully claim.

You are the ship’s Master Gunner (Gunsmith). As the one in charge of the ship’s arms you may pass out a gun two times to another player who may use it during the day. If they use it then there is a 50% chance that THEY will be revealed as the shooter. Once given to someone they may use it on any day following the give. Be careful who you pass a gun to as you may give guns to someone who is not town aligned.

Looking back I am still not 100% sure why I was convinced isaiah was town, but my only defence is I was reading the forums off my phone as we had limited internet access at the time, and reading the forum again up to the stage I passed the gun, I probably wouldn't have done so.

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:57 pm**

TeeGee wrote:
jak111 wrote:Those are the two main examples I have. But like I said, 2 of 5 of these guys are mafia. Isaiah sounds most likely to get some sort of result (Which if he turns up tracker it clears Sully) But before I go into it too far, I want to see either Sully or Teegee fully claim.

You are the ship’s Master Gunner (Gunsmith). As the one in charge of the ship’s arms you may pass out a gun two times to another player who may use it during the day. If they use it then there is a 50% chance that THEY will be revealed as the shooter. Once given to someone they may use it on any day following the give. Be careful who you pass a gun to as you may give guns to someone who is not town aligned.

Looking back I am still not 100% sure why I was convinced isaiah was town, but my only defence is I was reading the forums off my phone as we had limited internet access at the time, and reading the forum again up to the stage I passed the gun, I probably wouldn't have done so.

Oh God you didnt just quote that directly did you???

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:24 pm**

yeah, totally stuffed up.. not enough sleep and way too much going on away from the interwebs... i thought i just pasted it there and was going to write underneath and then delete

but must've swiped the submit on my laptop..

think i better just dissappear... sorry everyone

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:16 pm**

Bad screw-up TeeGee - mod killed is such a bad way to go!

Now, something I think I need to comment on. A parrot talks to the captain. They are the captain's pet. Sully knows I am the captain but I'm not hearing anything. Maybe the parrot will only reply if spoken to ... so let's try that. Sully, tell me what you learned each night please.

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:23 am**

So, there will be a modkill. Will the day end now or do we still get a lynch?

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:44 am**

DoomYoshi wrote:So, there will be a modkill. Will the day end now or do we still get a lynch?

Usually we still get to lynch, he'll be like Nebuch, killed in the middle of the day.

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:51 am**

So my list, now that Isaiah is actually cleared of being given the gun (Still used it wrongly!) is down to 3 main guys, 2 of which are mafia.

Spartacus
Sully
Hippo

I am starting to enjoy the odds, I just wish Teegee didn't quote his pm...

If you truly are the jail keeper Spartacus we'll lynch Sully or Hippo and you shall block the other tonight. If you are not... it's only a matter of time before you're dead with your mafia buddies.

As for Sully, we still need a claim from him.

Hippo, I sort of believe you are the captain since no one counterclaimed that main role at least, but perhaps you're a undercover captain to kill off pirates.

New Guy, if you can clear any of these 3 right now is the time to do so.

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:26 am**

im up for this and why dont we get isaiah to watch me tonight to prove who i am or will he get blocked again ?
so who do you want to go for? and i will place the other 1 in jail

Posted: **Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:32 am**

SPARTACUS1974 wrote:im up for this and why dont we get isaiah to watch me tonight to prove who i am or will he get blocked again ?
so who do you want to go for? and i will place the other 1 in jail

Well. Personally I prefer to vote for Sully, but I still want New Guy's information before I finalize my vote.

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