Conquer Club

Nebuchadnezer wrote: I believe the train man to be the bus driver(mafia, possibly third party).

Nebuchadnezer wrote:

pmchugh wrote:Ok f*ck this, got to page 41 and I am falling asleep. Blame the football.

But anyway, as of page 41 the scum are:

Freezie, everywhere, jonty and skillful. Any questions?

Call me a sheep...UNVOTE VOTE Freezie. A fresh set of eyes on 41 pages is going to pick up something that those of use who have been stuck in the back forth can't. I'm all for a new direction...Let's start with Freezie.

jonty125 wrote:

Nebuchadnezer wrote: I believe the train man to be the bus driver(mafia, possibly third party).

Busdriver is most likely town. And mafia busdrivers are very rare as their quite powerful.

MoB Deadly wrote: Freezie, although not the most active, is seen as a veteran on these forums, I can see why someone would want to attack him first.

Leehar wrote: Skimming/Lost?
If the victim was busdrove and freezie died, then it's obvious someone else was attacked instead?

Leehar wrote:

jonty125 wrote:

Nebuchadnezer wrote: I believe the train man to be the bus driver(mafia, possibly third party).

Busdriver is most likely town. And mafia busdrivers are very rare as their quite powerful.

So should he come forward and tell us who he saved, or irrelevant for know. I think he should keep close to his chest for now who was actually targeted

MoB Deadly wrote: Freezie, although not the most active, is seen as a veteran on these forums, I can see why someone would want to attack him first.

Skimming/Lost?
If the victim was busdrove and freezie died, then it's obvious someone else was attacked instead?

Leehar wrote:

jonty125 wrote:

Nebuchadnezer wrote: I believe the train man to be the bus driver(mafia, possibly third party).

Busdriver is most likely town. And mafia busdrivers are very rare as their quite powerful.

So should he come forward and tell us who he saved, or irrelevant for know. I think he should keep close to his chest for now who was actually targeted

MoB Deadly wrote: Freezie, although not the most active, is seen as a veteran on these forums, I can see why someone would want to attack him first.

Skimming/Lost?
If the victim was busdrove and freezie died, then it's obvious someone else was attacked instead?

betiko wrote:

Leehar wrote:

jonty125 wrote:

Nebuchadnezer wrote: I believe the train man to be the bus driver(mafia, possibly third party).

Busdriver is most likely town. And mafia busdrivers are very rare as their quite powerful.

So should he come forward and tell us who he saved, or irrelevant for know. I think he should keep close to his chest for now who was actually targeted

MoB Deadly wrote: Freezie, although not the most active, is seen as a veteran on these forums, I can see why someone would want to attack him first.

Skimming/Lost?
If the victim was busdrove and freezie died, then it's obvious someone else was attacked instead?

I don't see why the busdriver would be mafia; i think town or third party and that it was kind of a lucky thing. now this busdriver might know how was originally targeted by mafia; if it's the case that is someone that can be more or less cleared by the busdriver.

And yes, i think that if we have these 2 night scenes, we probably have a serial killer. I think agent smith being a serial killer and then mafia being machines..

about the bus driver thing, i am really wondering if neb didn't drop a big tell. I think it's very possible that he is mafia and that he knew i was last night's target that got busdriven with freezie. after his VT claim I started trusting him and now I think I might have lowered my guard a bit too much.
This thing he said about me surviving the night is very scummy for a VT, and also his case on freezie at the very end of day 1.. come on, that was not serious!

vote neb

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thechuck51 wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:

jak111 wrote:Nope, hopefully someone got some info. A night action would be good for once v.v ~Is hated by all the mods~

Hmm, I wonder though, the first part of the scene says they got away, so either Doc saved him/her or killer was roleblocked.

Any ideas for a lead?

Could be a roleblock or a doc save. I can't really tell from the scene.

I think it was a doc save. If it was a role block I would think something would have happened to the attacker to stop the kill instead of something happening to the target to save him.

Also, somebody mentioned agent smith being a cult leader. The fact that the attacker was shooting at the target makes me believe that this was not an attempt to recruit somebody to the cult. If Smith is cult that means this attack was by a third group?

I think the second was a bus drive. Any ideas as to why somebody would bus drive freezie as opposed to anybody else?

skillfusniper33 wrote:
Why would you assume freezie was the person bus driven

Night 1 Scene wrote:The train curiously deposits another man on the platform. Indifferent, the man in the dark suit shoots this other man and walks away.

skillfusniper33 wrote:Along with the other posts of you trying to make a case very close to the deadline I think that deserves my vote for now.

jonty125 wrote:

skillfusniper33 wrote:
Why would you assume freezie was the person bus driven

Erm here is is the scene

Night 1 Scene wrote:The train curiously deposits another man on the platform. Indifferent, the man in the dark suit shoots this other man and walks away.

skillfusniper33 wrote:Along with the other posts of you trying to make a case very close to the deadline I think that deserves my vote for now.

That was Neb.

FOS skill for being completely wrong on two points in his "case" on chuck.

skillfusniper33 wrote:

jonty125 wrote:

skillfusniper33 wrote:
Why would you assume freezie was the person bus driven

Erm here is is the scene

Night 1 Scene wrote:The train curiously deposits another man on the platform. Indifferent, the man in the dark suit shoots this other man and walks away.

skillfusniper33 wrote:Along with the other posts of you trying to make a case very close to the deadline I think that deserves my vote for now.

That was Neb.

FOS skill for being completely wrong on two points in his "case" on chuck.

Wow getting people confused, guess I should just give up for a little while, and double check my posts especially after getting a phone call while trying to post.

unvote, for my idiotic posting.

MoB Deadly wrote:I think things are definitely snowballing for Neb.

1. As jonty said he attempted to start a new case at the end of the day with 5 claims already on the table
2. Possible scum slip
3. Hammered the lynch
4. I don't like how he put the focus on PMC after the lynch occurred. It seemed like he could have been trying to attract night actions to PMC.
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5. He is a safe lynch because he is a VT.

I dont want to jump the gun and put my vote on him just yet. I am sure not all the players even saw the scene from last night yet, I would like to see if a stronger case presents itself before I put a vote on neb.

thechuck51 wrote:

MoB Deadly wrote:I think things are definitely snowballing for Neb.

1. As jonty said he attempted to start a new case at the end of the day with 5 claims already on the table
2. Possible scum slip
3. Hammered the lynch
4. I don't like how he put the focus on PMC after the lynch occurred. It seemed like he could have been trying to attract night actions to PMC.
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5. He is a safe lynch because he is a VT.

I dont want to jump the gun and put my vote on him just yet. I am sure not all the players even saw the scene from last night yet, I would like to see if a stronger case presents itself before I put a vote on neb.

I think we should wait til we have had input from some other players before we get too worked up. The day is only 12 hours old or so, some people may not have had a chance to read/comment yet. So no vote from me yet but I will FOS neb for now based on the "anyways betiko lives" line.

MoB Deadly wrote:I think we should wait as well, we definitely do not want to rush into voting someone like Neb without having a full regular discussion. Especially if we are wrong, we do not want to give the mafia and SK the luxury of making another kill without a thorough Day 2 discussion

MoB Deadly wrote:

edocsil wrote:

pmchugh wrote:Who wears a white suit in the matrix?

The Seraph and the twins. This appears to reference the the Seraph.

Why do you think its Seraph? I googled images of him and I would not necessarily consider his attire to be a "suit". The twins on the other hand, definitely wear suits.

Djfireside wrote:The only white suits that I can remember are the twins and switch as well

Leehar wrote:
Btw, who was the 3rd VT yesterday? Hippo?

thehippo8 wrote:@ Leehar - yeah, at least two factions sounds right. I am very confused by neb's vt claim but tracker information. Maybe he's masoned with a tracker and has been passed information?

Day two is as hard as day 1. I agree that we are better off pressuring people and getting information at this stage. Frankly the idea of killing vt's for the sake of it is very scummie! In the end game vt's can prove valuable.

Anyway, for now I want to hear more from Neb. You see oddly silent in the face of votes and questions. If you carry on like that thenyou only end up attracting more attention to yourself so speak up or I will vote on you!

MoB Deadly wrote:

thechuck51 wrote:I think it was a doc save. If it was a role block I would think something would have happened to the attacker to stop the kill instead of something happening to the target to save him.

Also, somebody mentioned agent smith being a cult leader. The fact that the attacker was shooting at the target makes me believe that this was not an attempt to recruit somebody to the cult. If Smith is cult that means this attack was by a third group?

I think the second was a bus drive. Any ideas as to why somebody would bus drive freezie as opposed to anybody else?

I agree with chucks thoughts exactly. We are unsure of the bus drivers alignment though, mafia bus drivers would want to switch the people they want to kill, to have a better chance to kill their target. Freezie, although not the most active, is seen as a veteran on these forums, I can see why someone would want to attack him first.

I also want to comment that the Night 1 flavor really does seem to confirm that the characters that do NOT go into the matrix are likely to be Vanilla Townies. We still have to tread lightly, the mafia has obviously picked up on this and will be fakeclaiming someone from zion

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betiko wrote:And yes, i think that if we have these 2 night scenes, we probably have a serial killer. I think agent smith being a serial killer and then mafia being machines..

cowboyz wrote:

MoB Deadly wrote:

thechuck51 wrote:I think it was a doc save. If it was a role block I would think something would have happened to the attacker to stop the kill instead of something happening to the target to save him.

Also, somebody mentioned agent smith being a cult leader. The fact that the attacker was shooting at the target makes me believe that this was not an attempt to recruit somebody to the cult. If Smith is cult that means this attack was by a third group?

I think the second was a bus drive. Any ideas as to why somebody would bus drive freezie as opposed to anybody else?

I agree with chucks thoughts exactly. We are unsure of the bus drivers alignment though, mafia bus drivers would want to switch the people they want to kill, to have a better chance to kill their target. Freezie, although not the most active, is seen as a veteran on these forums, I can see why someone would want to attack him first.

I also want to comment that the Night 1 flavor really does seem to confirm that the characters that do NOT go into the matrix are likely to be Vanilla Townies. We still have to tread lightly, the mafia has obviously picked up on this and will be fakeclaiming someone from zion

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Agree

betiko wrote:And yes, i think that if we have these 2 night scenes, we probably have a serial killer. I think agent smith being a serial killer and then mafia being machines..

Semi agree. Maybe mafia are some characters in matrix like twins or such. who knows.
But I do think Smith as SK would make a lot of sense and then mafia faction.

Case on neb...yea he feels a bit strange but no different from yesterday to me.
I would like to hear from Doom, he is not clear but Jak and Doom are supposed mason's
And I agree with Jak atm, we have lot of inactives, would like to hear everyone's thoughts on N1.

edocsil wrote:[

Djfireside wrote:The only white suits that I can remember are the twins and switch as well

Switch was female.

cowboyz wrote:I would like to hear from Doom, he is not clear but Jak and Doom are supposed mason's