Conquer Club

lancehoch wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:I dont give a crap what he said. They are Us military, just miss-matched.

Well, he kinda runs the site, so what he says is just a tad bit important.

He is not god you brown noser.

keiths31 wrote:The symbols used are used by many Forces around the world other than the USA. They are not USA exclusive.

I wouldn't get too upset or worried about the ranks and names. If we did I could say the Crown used shouldn't be used for a Colonel but for a Warrant Officer...the Cadet bar is actually for a 2nd Lieutenant...and the Sword should be accompanied by a Crown for a Brigadier-General, instead of Major and Colonel respectivly.

The system used on CC is arbitrary...nothing to get worked up about. CC is based "loosely" on war and military...and the ranks are also based "loosely" on military ranks.

I think it more likely that they did not know squat about the subject. I know that they didnt know squat about risk.

porkenbeans wrote:I know that they didnt know squat about risk.

Really?

BaldAdonis wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:I know that they didnt know squat about risk.

Really?

Yeah, REALLY.

keiths31 wrote:The symbols used are used by many Forces around the world other than the USA. They are not USA exclusive.

I wouldn't get too upset or worried about the ranks and names. If we did I could say the Crown used shouldn't be used for a Colonel but for a Warrant Officer...the Cadet bar is actually for a 2nd Lieutenant...and the Sword should be accompanied by a Crown for a Brigadier-General, instead of Major and Colonel respectivly.

The system used on CC is arbitrary...nothing to get worked up about. CC is based "loosely" on war and military...and the ranks are also based "loosely" on military ranks.

CC is based solely on Hasbro "RISK". You are right about the ranks and ensignas being used by several countries military. And all are a little different, but, all share the same common roots. But to confuse capt. with corp. and maj. with coln. is just plain ignorance.

porkenbeans wrote:

BaldAdonis wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:I know that they didnt know squat about risk.

Really?

Yeah, REALLY.

Care to explain? Or just trolling again, as usual?

BaldAdonis wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:

BaldAdonis wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:I know that they didnt know squat about risk.

Really?

Yeah, REALLY.

Care to explain? Or just trolling again, as usual?

What is trolling ?

porkenbeans wrote:What is trolling ?

This

porkenbeans wrote:Yeah, REALLY.

Is Trolling

porkenbeans wrote:

lancehoch wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:I dont give a crap what he said. They are Us military, just miss-matched.

Well, he kinda runs the site, so what he says is just a tad bit important.

He is not god you brown noser.

He is pretty much "god" on this site, since he is the owner. It seems like you don't have any respect for the person who could remove your account just because he wanted to without any remorse...So it's not brown-nosing, it's just telling the truth. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to stay

I see your point, but I think if they did that ConquerClub could be in trouble of getting suid by some army somewhere because they 'directly copied' their ideas. I think its nice that our ranks are similar to real military ranks, but have a slight twist

Hm... I don't know.

The best icon for me is what a Colonel has now
And I find the icon for a Lieutenant is better than for a Captain. Maybe this was the reason I couldn't be a Captain. My best points were 1794, but then I lost 5 from my last 6 games

porkenbeans wrote:They are in fact miss-matched US military ensignas and ranks.

The oak leaf (lieut) and eagle (brig) are the only insignia that are distinctly American. The crown (colonel) and crossed swords/baton (major) are much more British. The rest of the insignia are fairly generic.

I would still like to see all symbols abolished, in their place the rank on the scoreboard should be displayed.

Although I must confess I rather like the gay hat of the Colonels, that's one thing that has remained the same almost since the site was started. I think there was only a short period after the big revamp of the ranks when the gay hat was assigned to a different rank, but it was changed again within a week or two when a new rank was added.
That's a lot of ranks in one post...

MrBenn wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:They are in fact miss-matched US military ensignas and ranks.

The oak leaf (lieut) and eagle (brig) are the only insignia that are distinctly American. The crown (colonel) and crossed swords/baton (major) are much more British. The rest of the insignia are fairly generic.

And we have a winner!

Could this maybe have something to do with where our military originated?

Military ranks were used by the ancient Persians, Greeks, and Mongols. Interestingly, it was only the Mongols who used a decimal system, something that continues to elude most world powers to this day.

The formalized system of ranks was instituted by the Roman Empire.

The ranks we (as near sighted Americans) know, and the ranks the rest of the world generally uses, are British in origin, as stated previously. They came about at the close of the middle ages. They were used in part to separate the aristocracy from the regular people.

In light of this, I propose that all Fremiums are known as NCOs and all Premiums are "Commissioned Officers." This system has been in place for over 1,000 years, and is currently confusing to people from that time who use this site. Those who financially support the site are confused, as the gold designations do not necessarily mean 'higher monetary value' than the silver ones.

Of course, the higher ranks are all very new. They are derived from Latin, Italian(?), French, and Swedish(!) sources. I propose that only players with the Swedish flag (that's the blue one with the gold cross) be allowed rank of Brigadier. I am confused when I see a Brigadier from another country, what are they, a thief? Also, that word is confusingly spelled.

Honestly, we are very lucky we don't use the Canadian system on this site, they use designations like 'Commodore'.

Also, I think we should change the rank of Cook, as Cooks in the army do not wear those silly Chef hats.

I hope that my proposals will be taken with utmost seriousness by the powers that be! I hope that this suggestion is given Priority 1. Classic map be damned, let's get us some ranks that aren't so confusingly explained as on this page http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=instructions4 !

The Neon Peon wrote:Once again, THIS IS NOT necessarily THE US MILITARY.... cupcake

Edit and corrections in red

SuicidalSnowman wrote:

flyboy wrote:first of all don't assume I'm enlisted.

flyboy wrote:I'm an officer in the US military, of course I know that.

I'm assuming "enlisted" means a non officer...

C.

yeti_c wrote:

SuicidalSnowman wrote:

flyboy wrote:first of all don't assume I'm enlisted.

flyboy wrote:I'm an officer in the US military, of course I know that.

I'm assuming "enlisted" means a non officer...

C.

Some of us have been conscripted to the CC cause...

yeti_c wrote:

SuicidalSnowman wrote:

flyboy wrote:first of all don't assume I'm enlisted.

flyboy wrote:I'm an officer in the US military, of course I know that.

I'm assuming "enlisted" means a non officer...

C.

Cheers!

i think we should scrap the current system and start from scratch and re design our own ranks. but thats just me.

I know this may be elsewhere, but did a quick search and did not find it quickly so started a new topic
I may be a purist, and being a retired air force veteran, the rank symbols with corresponding ranks should be reflect accurate ranks.
Most are ok but the following is what I suggest be changed. It drives me crazy to see a Brigadier with a Colonels rank!!!

Lieutenant symbol should be a single BAR
Captain symbol should be a either 2 bars (US ranks) or Crown ( European)
Major should be OAK leaf (US) or the crown used for Colonel currently (European)
Colonel should be a EAGLE
Brigadier should be a STAR
General should be the Field Marshall rank symbol currently
Field Marshall should be a circle of 5 Stars.

Sorry for being picky about symbols, but can't help it!

jp007
Lt Col USAF (Retired)

The ranks are purposefully designed to not match any real-world military system.

Yeah this has been suggested before, if I can find the topic I will edit a link in.

Basically, the main argument is that this is an highly international site, and if I understand correctly, actually based out of Canada (but I could be mistaken about that). Therefore, US specific ranks are a little out of place, why not use Canadian, or Great Britain's, or we have a lot of Australians, so why not theirs, etc...?

Duplicate threads merged:

CHANGE Rank Designators - posts from 2 to 7 May 2008 - first post here
The rank structure is very confusing - posts from 3 to 5 December 2008 - first post here
Suggestion for Rank Symbols - posts 30 January 2009 - first post here

Cicero

It matters little as do most of you peasants of the lower ranks, so why worry about it.

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--Andy

I have to agree, as much as I love sudo-military stuff the ranks have a fine system and I think it would be a waste of a mods time to change them...