Iron Butterfly wrote:gregwolf121 wrote:well i willunvote, and vote no lynch for those of you who will question this decision its for the reasons i provided in my last post, mainly that we are basically just sitting here waiting for someone to do something, which is pointless, and if this limited activity goes on for too long people will lose interest and the game will die. so since were are just sitting here, and i for one haven't spotted any scum tells that i wish to pursue, meaning that i have a few gut feelings but no case. i say we end the day and hopefully we have some town power roles that will get some info for us tonight.
Vote gregwold
And your last case completely overlooked the case against a no lynch.
With out knowing the format you play right into the hands of mafia. If this is a 2 goon 5 VT game there will be no night actions and we will be right where we left off. These types of games are short and sweet. Mafia is not going tobe waving any big flags that say "look at me"
Town can only win if they lynch.
Town can only know what format we are in when someone dies and they flip Town or Mafia.
Even if we are in a format where Town has a role blocker or doc the doc will only help if they can guess who is being killed. The role blocker not only has to guess who is mafia they have to guess which will make a kill, so the role will be blind luck.
You are no noob to mafia Greg and in a game this small a no lynch benifits mafia because they wont get targeted and a lynch will benifit Town because we may hit mafia.
you know this is basically the argument that i thought you would raise, so there are five possible set ups, the worse one is that it is 2 goons and 5 vts, so we have a 20% chance of this being the format,
no i don't know what the format is but there is a 80% chance that there is a town power that can work at night,
they problem i have with lynching right now is that we have no suspects, yeah there are some that aren't posting but thats always been a weak case, i think thats the only kind of case that could reasonably be acted on, yes i know you have your vote on my because i dared to suggest a no lynch to move the day along rather than sit and do nothing,
generally i would agree with you that lynching is good, but in this case where we have nothing it would help mafia more than town, why, because it is highly doubtful that the person we lynch will flip mafia so all we would have done is lynch a townie, and with the mafia's night kill thats two dead townies, and assuming that their are two goons the town would then be one miss lynch away from mafia winning, i'll do the math so all can follow my line of thinking
we lynch day 1-if they flip town, (there is a highly probability that this will happen)
then it would be 6/7 the mafia has there night kill and we start day two
5/7, assuming there are two goons that would leave 3 town members and 2 goons, a no lynch here would mean town loses, and if we lynch the wrong person again town loses
in other words if we can't afford to lynch a townie on day one and i'll say again we have no leads on mafia at this moment, so unless someone has a good solid case they would like to share with the rest of us ill stick with no lynch, because in fact it does help the town more than a mislynch would
the difference were having right now is that you would rather put your trust in the off-chance that we would be lucky enough to lynch mafia today, and i'm putting my trust in that we have town power roles to help us out.
Wish some people (not all necessarily, and definitely none in this game) in my first gave would have forgiven me more! 
