Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Fox Admits Ron Paul Wins 5 Stat
Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:16 pm
by Timminz
Phatscotty wrote:Just to be clear, you were talking about cuts in states...from 12-5 right?
Have you taken a blow to the head, this weekend? You seem even slower on the uptake than usual.
Oh well, at least you finally caught up with the rest of the class.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Fox Admits Ron Paul Wins 5 Stat
Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:06 pm
by Phatscotty
Timminz wrote:12 turned into 5 pretty fast. You must be very proud of his (now proven) ability to make such drastic cuts.
Timminz wrote:So, you're saying he ISN'T any good at actually making cuts?
I thought that was the whole platform.
Timminz wrote:Have you taken a blow to the head, this weekend? You seem even slower on the uptake than usual.
Oh well, at least you finally caught up with the rest of the class.
Troll hard Timminz.
Ron Paul wins big in Maine and Nevada
Ron Paul’s presidential strategy is working – at least it did in Maine and Nevada Sunday, where he won the most number of delegates at state party conventions.
If most Republicans and pundits consider Mitt Romney the all-but-nominated champion to take on Barack Obama in this year’s presidential election, Rep. Paul’s army of enthusiastic and determined backers beg to differ.
In fact, they’re not begging at all but pounding at the gates of conventional political thinking…
Over the weekend, his supporters took control of the Maine Republican Convention, electing a majority slate of delegates.
In Nevada Paul forces did likewise, winning their man 22 delegates, compared to three for Romney…
Paul backers say delegates will abide by those rules in the first round of balloting at the national convention in Tampa, the AP reported Sunday. But all bets are off if there is more than one round of balloting, and it remains to be seen whether the Romney campaign or Republican National Committee will challenge Nevada’s delegate results…
In any case, Paul’s Nevada chairman Carl Bunce told the Las Vegas Sun, “We are sending a strong delegation to Tampa in August.”
(Romney) can’t risk alienating Paul supporters between now and the Republican convention by trying to force them or their determined libertarian leader into silence.
“I think he’s being very careful because he knows how important the Ron Paul voters are – they obviously represent a very different dynamic,” Mike Dennehy, a former top aide to Republican John McCain’s 2008 campaign, told the AP. “They are the most passionate and the most frustrated of any voters heading to the polls. And many of them are independents.”
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Fox Admits Ron Paul Wins 5 Stat
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:59 am
by Phatscotty
Ron Paul Officially wins 8 states. click the R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution tab on my signature for a special secret message.
What are your bookies saying now?
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Fox Admits Ron Paul Wins 5 Stat
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 1:26 am
by saxitoxin
Phatscotty wrote:Ron Paul Officially wins 8 states. click the R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution tab on my signature for a special secret message.
What are your bookies saying now?
Did Rachel Maddow's balls finally drop? She looks the same but her voice is lower. Not much lower but a bit. Maybe it's just me.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Fox Admits Ron Paul Wins 5 Stat
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 1:34 am
by Phatscotty
saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Ron Paul Officially wins 8 states. click the R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution tab on my signature for a special secret message.
What are your bookies saying now?
Did Rachel Maddow's balls finally drop? She looks the same but her voice is lower. Not much lower but a bit. Maybe it's just me.
It's MSNBC. They are lucky if their hosts show up 5 days a week. I have never seen so much absenteeism and substitutes. Someone always has the day off.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; Makes Statement
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 3:18 am
by vodean
despite Ron Paul being clearly the best candidate, im afraid many people wont vote for him because he's so old. people hate gerontocracy.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; Makes Statement
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 7:03 am
by pmchugh
The odds are shortening! One bookmaker has him as low as 20/1!!!
he's got no chance
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; Makes Statement
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 9:54 am
by Phatscotty
“In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.” - Mark Twain
Get up, get out and vote for Ron Paul!
Next Primaries: May 15, 2012 Nebraska and Oregon May 22, 2012 Arkansas and Kentucky May 29, 2012 Texas
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; Makes Statement
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:52 am
by Crazyirishman
Phatscotty wrote:
I'm a bit confused. How did Paul win the Colorado delegates when he only had 12% of the vote in the primary back in Feb? Does it matter or is it all a mumbo jumbo "we can do whatever the f*ck we want primaries don't matter" type process where the delegates can change whatever they want?
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 4:48 pm
by Phatscotty
Because, the process does not just include a vote. Winning the popular vote in a state is meaningless if you can not get anyone to pledge as a delegate to support you at the convention. Buying radio time and tv commercials can only get you so far. You need people to show up and support you in the future and the conventions as well.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 6:25 pm
by pmchugh
I don't understand this weird system of nominating.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 6:47 pm
by /
Sooo, they aren't even pretending anyone's opinions and votes count anymore WTF. I think he has a good chance for winning the big states, California and Texas are coming up, they should respect a candidate that is guaranteed to veto legislation that could rape their privacy, see CISPA. Just four and a half more weeks until the primary comes here too, I hope my vote counts.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 9:34 pm
by Phatscotty
pmchugh wrote:I don't understand this weird system of nominating.
Let's look to history, the election of 1920. Warren G Harding
Harding's supporters thought of him as the next McKinley. By the time the convention began, a Senate sub-committee had tallied the monies spent by the various candidates, with totals as follows: Wood — $1.8 million; Lowden — $414,000; Johnson — $194,000; and Harding — $114,000; the committed delegate count at the opening gavel was: Wood — 124; Johnson — 112; Lowden — 72; Harding — 39.[68] Still, at the opening, less than one-half of the delegates were committed.[69
Harding went into the brokered 1920 convention with only 6% of the delegates, but emerged as the party’s nominee. Harding won the general election in a landslide and took a very non-interventionist approach to the Depression of 1921."
Free market economists cite Harding’s refusal to intervene in that crisis for the quick recovery that followed.
So, there is no reason not to take Ron Paul at his word when he says that he is still in the contest to win the nomination. Still, speculation persists that he has made a deal with Romney for an eventual endorsement.
In return, Paul would get a speaking slot at the convention, consideration for his son Rand, or concessions in the party platform.
Both Paul and Romney have repeatedly denied this. Paul acknowledges that he is open to talk to the other candidates and that Romney, a personal friend, is easier to talk to. However, anyone who believes Ron Paul will simply endorse the nominee in exchange for political favors doesn’t understand Ron Paul or his Revolution.
Whether you agree with him or not, there is one thing that you must grant to Ron Paul. He has refused to compromise his political principles, regardless of the political consequences. He endorsed Ronald Reagan when Reagan was a “fringe candidate” back in 1976. However, after federal spending doubled and the national debt exploded during Reagan’s presidency, Paul wrote a letter blasting the by that time hugely popular Reagan and announcing his withdrawal from the Republican Party.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:02 am
by saxitoxin
Arizona Ron Paul supporters boo Romney's son off stage
Supporters of Ron Paul booed the son of presidential hopeful Mitt Romney off the stage Saturday at the Arizona Republican Party convention as he sought to solidify support for his father's nomination. http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/ ... z1urA6UDkD
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:34 pm
by saxitoxin
Cain interrupted by Paul supporters
Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain made a surprise visit to Republicans' 2nd Congressional District convention on Saturday, but may have been surprised himself by Ron Paul supporters.
Cain tried to get the audience to get behind presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney. "Here's how we win," Cain said, stopping briefly to pause. At that moment a man from the audience interjected, "Ron Paul!" to ensuing thunderous applause from the audience.
Ron Paul supporter and Newport News resident Cary Nunnally estimated afterward that 70 percent of those in attendance supported Paul in Virginia's presidential preference primary earlier this year where Romney defeated Paul 60 to 40 percent.
Well shit, I guess it's back to contemplating if I prefer four more years with Obama, Romney, or wasting my vote on Gary Johnson...
I hope Ron Paul gets more delegates anyhow.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:45 pm
by Phatscotty
There is nothing to that rumor. That is just the media doin what the media does. Ron Paul has never put much into primary states. He is just smart with his money like that.
“As I reflect on our 2012 Presidential campaign, I am humbled by the supporters who have worked so hard and sacrificed so much. And I am so proud of what we have accomplished. We will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.
“This campaign fought hard and won electoral success that the talking heads and pundits never thought possible. But, this campaign is also about more than just the 2012 election. It has been part of a quest I began 40 years ago and that so many have joined. It is about the campaign for Liberty, which has taken a tremendous leap forward in this election and will continue to grow stronger in the future until we finally win.
“Our campaign will continue to work in the state convention process. We will continue to take leadership positions, win delegates, and carry a strong message to the Republican National Convention that Liberty is the way of the future.
“Moving forward, however, we will no longer spend resources campaigning in primaries in states that have not yet voted. Doing so with any hope of success would take many tens of millions of dollars we simply do not have. I encourage all supporters of Liberty to make sure you get to the polls and make your voices heard, particularly in the local, state, and Congressional elections, where so many defenders of Freedom are fighting and need your support.
“I hope all supporters of Liberty will remain deeply involved – become delegates, win office, and take leadership positions. I will be right there with you. In the coming days, my campaign leadership will lay out to you our delegate strategy and what you can do to help, so please stay tuned.
For Liberty,
Ron Paul.”
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:01 pm
by The Voice
I voted for Nader last election. I'm not afraid to say it. Some would call it wasting a vote. I'd like to believe our collective demand to fix this broken two-party system has resulted in Paul's success. The fact that Ron Paul endorsed Nader last election tells me a lot about how much integrity he has. We Ohioans have already made our bed with Romney, but should Paul win the primary, he has my vote in the general election.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:24 pm
by saxitoxin
The Voice wrote:I voted for Nader last election. I'm not afraid to say it. Some would call it wasting a vote.
"It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it." Eugene V. Debs
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:48 pm
by Phatscotty
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:48 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:There is nothing to that rumor. That is just the media doin what the media does. Ron Paul has never put much into primary states. He is just smart with his money like that.
"The media" isn't a thing. You were told it was a thing by a group pf people you're about to identify as "the media". or you're going to run away.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:40 pm
by vodean
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:There is nothing to that rumor. That is just the media doin what the media does. Ron Paul has never put much into primary states. He is just smart with his money like that.
"The media" isn't a thing. You were told it was a thing by a group pf people you're about to identify as "the media". or you're going to run away.
the media is a thing. its actually two. its fox, or just about everything else
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:13 pm
by saxitoxin
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:There is nothing to that rumor. That is just the media doin what the media does. Ron Paul has never put much into primary states. He is just smart with his money like that.
"The media" isn't a thing. You were told it was a thing by a group pf people you're about to identify as "the media". or you're going to run away.
This is Symm's schtick for this week it appears - a hysterical crusade to stamp out colloquial speech. He's been galumphing after Scott from thread to thread repeating this line.
Scott is correctly, in this instance, using the term "the media" to refer to practitioners of a profession with common conventions of practice. The presence of a controlling mind is not necessary.
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:59 pm
by Symmetry
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:There is nothing to that rumor. That is just the media doin what the media does. Ron Paul has never put much into primary states. He is just smart with his money like that.
"The media" isn't a thing. You were told it was a thing by a group pf people you're about to identify as "the media". or you're going to run away.
This is Symm's schtick for this week it appears - a hysterical crusade to stamp out colloquial speech. He's been galumphing after Scott from thread to thread repeating this line.
Scott is correctly, in this instance, using the term "the media" to refer to practitioners of a profession with common conventions of practice. The presence of a controlling mind is not necessary.
What profession is he referring to?
Re: R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Romney Scared; New Delegate Map
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:32 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:There is nothing to that rumor. That is just the media doin what the media does. Ron Paul has never put much into primary states. He is just smart with his money like that.
"The media" isn't a thing. You were told it was a thing by a group pf people you're about to identify as "the media". or you're going to run away.
This is Symm's schtick for this week it appears - a hysterical crusade to stamp out colloquial speech. He's been galumphing after Scott from thread to thread repeating this line.
Scott is correctly, in this instance, using the term "the media" to refer to practitioners of a profession with common conventions of practice. The presence of a controlling mind is not necessary.