Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:08 am
In response to LetGodSortThem:
1. GAME 175171:
I guess you weren't reading the posts from the now locked thread well enough because I've already responded to an accusation by austex about one of the games you referenced. That game is 175171. So, I won't bother typing it again, but rather provide you with the link: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... c&start=45
2. GAME 175173:
I also find it interesting that NO ONE attacked b.k. barunt after round 3 until I decided to do so in round 9. I suppose every player in that game is guilty of showing "favoritism" towards b.k., which would mean that every player was cheating with b.k. Or maybe, it was because he was progressing so slowly through the Rim Islands that he was mostly "under the radar" for those rounds not seeming to pose a threat to anyone while everyone else were at each other's throats. That seems like a much more logical explanation, especially after having viewed the game log.
As for me, I didn't have time to worry about him until the end because I was constantly being challenged for control of Ankh & Morkpork as the game log will clearly show. But, because I was persistent and because Dariune had decided to shifted all his focus his focus to the Aurient, I was eventually able to secure Ankh & Morkpork and expand outwards.
While I was securing my hold on Ankh & Morkpork and building my strength so I could expand, Dariune and b.k. were battling for northern supremacy and control of the Rim Islands. I was no threat to them at the time and vice-versa. It also would have been foolish for any of us to devote our resources to fighting players that were occupied elsewhere on the map when we it made more sense to fight the player(s) that more of a direct threat. By the time I had take over the south and secured a high flow on reinforcements, b.k. had been weakened enough for me to take him out, which I did, and then proceed towards Dariune who couldn't stop me at that point because he had weakened himself just enough to where he couldn't stop me from winning.
3. GAME 136471:
In the beginning of this game, b.k. and I were clearly campaigning in two separate regions. I was fighting for Summerset Isle and he was fighting for Skyrim. That should easily explain why didn't go after each other at the start of game.
I eventually took hold of Summerset Isle and began to expand outwards. I took advantage of the fact that b.k. and Ruben were going at it for control of Skyrim by expanding north into Hammerfell. Then as I grew in strength, I decided to cast my lot into the fight for Skyrim and Hammerfell since I also had cards to cash in. b.k. was quite weak at this time and was looking for a new place on the map to start campaigning. He ran into pink and was soon eliminated by pink who had already established his power to a reasonable point. I triumphed over red and began to move eastwards against green who moved away from me to go after pink. Pink eventually missed a turn making it easier to eliminate him, which I did. I then finished it up by taking green out.
So, it is quite clear that there was no reason for me to attack b.k. because he was already tangling with red, and pink with light blue. This left me take Summerset Isle and green to take Morrowind. It's no coincidence that green and I were the last two left at the end of the game. It took green longer to establish his power because Morrowind is bigger and it requires more armies and turns to do so there, whereas I was able to take Summerset Isle quickly because of my fortunate opening layout on the map at the start of the game and because it has fewer territories to conquer and requires fewer armies and turns. I was able to establish my power on the map before anyone else and I was clever enough to keep myself in the lead by waiting for the right times to attack and by keeping my borders well fortified against potential invaders. Here, once again, is a perfectly logical explanation for my win in this game, which is available in the game log.
4. GAME 71339:
This one is easy. I knew where I wanted to campaign at the start of the game and could easily see that hookshotwillaby would not pose a threat to me until later in the game if he could survive long enough and if he did not decide to move towards the area I wanted to campaign in. Hookshot's opening layout had the majority of his forces in Germany, which is practically impossible to hold so early in the game. Knowing all this, I passed him what seemed to be a helpful tip thinking it would distract him away from the region I was focused on taking long enough for me to actually take it. That explains the quote you highlighted in red "Better watch your northern front, hookshot." You're trying to make it out to be more complex than it is because you are so incredibly desperate right now in your quest to pin any of us. As far as the rules go, there is nothing illegal about sending a false hint in order to distract an opponent's attention away from you in the public game chat. Tell me where I went wrong on that one. In fact, don't bother because you can't.
Can you explain why you highlighted the part where hookshot proposes his alliance to me in the game chat? As far as the rules of the site go, alliances are completely legal if they are made in the game chat where all can see, which is exactly what we did. So, why did you even decide to highlight quote from the game chat that does not bear even the slightest hint of cheating on it? I think you've got some explaining to do pal.
You also highlighted a portion of the feedback hookshot left me where it says "and he carried me to the end of the game". However, you left out the first half of that sentence which reads "I allied with him when things turned grim". You are trying to suggest that I was "carrying" hookshot before our alliance was made by only highlighting the second half of that sentence. How much of an idiot are you? Do you really think no one will read the first half and notice that any assistance that we provided to each other occurred "after" our legal alliance was made?
I also have absolutely no idea why you highlighted the part in the feedback where he says "would love to play with Paulus more in the future especially in a doubles game". What the hell are you trying to get at with this one?? Please tell me what is so wrong him saying that? God! You're an idiot!
*Why do you leave out essential information and only state the basic info, which is entirely too vague to prove anything at all? Why do you never get into the details of the game log? It seems you've become rather spiteful and have decided to go scrounging around my game history to see what information you can cut and paste in your feeble attempt to assemble a claim against me and my uncle. You completely disregard the strategies and positioning tactics used, which are vital to a player's outcome in a game. You are going to need a lot more than game numbers, how many times we attacked each other, and who won in order to prove anything. Do you think that the moderators who investigate cheating accusations only look at those basic facts? No, of course not! They don't because that basic info is too little and too vague to use alone, which is why one must go deeper than the surface by delving into the depths of the game log. And because you did not, I decided to do it for you since you refuse to because you know it'll ruin your case against us.
Nice try fruitball.
1. GAME 175171:
I guess you weren't reading the posts from the now locked thread well enough because I've already responded to an accusation by austex about one of the games you referenced. That game is 175171. So, I won't bother typing it again, but rather provide you with the link: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... c&start=45
2. GAME 175173:
I also find it interesting that NO ONE attacked b.k. barunt after round 3 until I decided to do so in round 9. I suppose every player in that game is guilty of showing "favoritism" towards b.k., which would mean that every player was cheating with b.k. Or maybe, it was because he was progressing so slowly through the Rim Islands that he was mostly "under the radar" for those rounds not seeming to pose a threat to anyone while everyone else were at each other's throats. That seems like a much more logical explanation, especially after having viewed the game log.
As for me, I didn't have time to worry about him until the end because I was constantly being challenged for control of Ankh & Morkpork as the game log will clearly show. But, because I was persistent and because Dariune had decided to shifted all his focus his focus to the Aurient, I was eventually able to secure Ankh & Morkpork and expand outwards.
While I was securing my hold on Ankh & Morkpork and building my strength so I could expand, Dariune and b.k. were battling for northern supremacy and control of the Rim Islands. I was no threat to them at the time and vice-versa. It also would have been foolish for any of us to devote our resources to fighting players that were occupied elsewhere on the map when we it made more sense to fight the player(s) that more of a direct threat. By the time I had take over the south and secured a high flow on reinforcements, b.k. had been weakened enough for me to take him out, which I did, and then proceed towards Dariune who couldn't stop me at that point because he had weakened himself just enough to where he couldn't stop me from winning.
3. GAME 136471:
In the beginning of this game, b.k. and I were clearly campaigning in two separate regions. I was fighting for Summerset Isle and he was fighting for Skyrim. That should easily explain why didn't go after each other at the start of game.
I eventually took hold of Summerset Isle and began to expand outwards. I took advantage of the fact that b.k. and Ruben were going at it for control of Skyrim by expanding north into Hammerfell. Then as I grew in strength, I decided to cast my lot into the fight for Skyrim and Hammerfell since I also had cards to cash in. b.k. was quite weak at this time and was looking for a new place on the map to start campaigning. He ran into pink and was soon eliminated by pink who had already established his power to a reasonable point. I triumphed over red and began to move eastwards against green who moved away from me to go after pink. Pink eventually missed a turn making it easier to eliminate him, which I did. I then finished it up by taking green out.
So, it is quite clear that there was no reason for me to attack b.k. because he was already tangling with red, and pink with light blue. This left me take Summerset Isle and green to take Morrowind. It's no coincidence that green and I were the last two left at the end of the game. It took green longer to establish his power because Morrowind is bigger and it requires more armies and turns to do so there, whereas I was able to take Summerset Isle quickly because of my fortunate opening layout on the map at the start of the game and because it has fewer territories to conquer and requires fewer armies and turns. I was able to establish my power on the map before anyone else and I was clever enough to keep myself in the lead by waiting for the right times to attack and by keeping my borders well fortified against potential invaders. Here, once again, is a perfectly logical explanation for my win in this game, which is available in the game log.
4. GAME 71339:
This one is easy. I knew where I wanted to campaign at the start of the game and could easily see that hookshotwillaby would not pose a threat to me until later in the game if he could survive long enough and if he did not decide to move towards the area I wanted to campaign in. Hookshot's opening layout had the majority of his forces in Germany, which is practically impossible to hold so early in the game. Knowing all this, I passed him what seemed to be a helpful tip thinking it would distract him away from the region I was focused on taking long enough for me to actually take it. That explains the quote you highlighted in red "Better watch your northern front, hookshot." You're trying to make it out to be more complex than it is because you are so incredibly desperate right now in your quest to pin any of us. As far as the rules go, there is nothing illegal about sending a false hint in order to distract an opponent's attention away from you in the public game chat. Tell me where I went wrong on that one. In fact, don't bother because you can't.
Can you explain why you highlighted the part where hookshot proposes his alliance to me in the game chat? As far as the rules of the site go, alliances are completely legal if they are made in the game chat where all can see, which is exactly what we did. So, why did you even decide to highlight quote from the game chat that does not bear even the slightest hint of cheating on it? I think you've got some explaining to do pal.
You also highlighted a portion of the feedback hookshot left me where it says "and he carried me to the end of the game". However, you left out the first half of that sentence which reads "I allied with him when things turned grim". You are trying to suggest that I was "carrying" hookshot before our alliance was made by only highlighting the second half of that sentence. How much of an idiot are you? Do you really think no one will read the first half and notice that any assistance that we provided to each other occurred "after" our legal alliance was made?
I also have absolutely no idea why you highlighted the part in the feedback where he says "would love to play with Paulus more in the future especially in a doubles game". What the hell are you trying to get at with this one?? Please tell me what is so wrong him saying that? God! You're an idiot!
*Why do you leave out essential information and only state the basic info, which is entirely too vague to prove anything at all? Why do you never get into the details of the game log? It seems you've become rather spiteful and have decided to go scrounging around my game history to see what information you can cut and paste in your feeble attempt to assemble a claim against me and my uncle. You completely disregard the strategies and positioning tactics used, which are vital to a player's outcome in a game. You are going to need a lot more than game numbers, how many times we attacked each other, and who won in order to prove anything. Do you think that the moderators who investigate cheating accusations only look at those basic facts? No, of course not! They don't because that basic info is too little and too vague to use alone, which is why one must go deeper than the surface by delving into the depths of the game log. And because you did not, I decided to do it for you since you refuse to because you know it'll ruin your case against us.
Nice try fruitball.