Double Fanucci Mafia (4/14) Endgame

[StorrZerg]

So we lynch someone who lurked on the lynching, and avoided being on the hotshot flip...

Hello aog

[StorrZerg]

If that's the case, sk would really need wing to die yesterday on the lynch rather than hotshot

[Army of GOD]

I like your theory. "You're scum if you're the hammer on a townie and you're scum if you aren't the hammer"

[StorrZerg]

I like your theory. "You're scum if you're the hammer on a townie and you're scum if you aren't the hammer"

Feel free to come up with some theory then.

you have yet to make a read on anyone today. Or comment on night kills.

[virus90]

dont have the time to do a decent post all of that time got taken by the HP game.
anyway.
i will prioritize this game tomorrow, do a decent reread and come with more then i have now.

what i have now; Army of god, didnt exactly stood out yesterday doesnt offer much today either. so i agree with storr on that.
also i dont really trust mtam at this point, dont have solid reasons will have to reread to explain that feeling, partially based on the storr mtam duo that indeed was keen on yesterdays lynch. which turned out wrong. then again, so far we dont know that anyone was right yesterday.

as for NOS saving me, i think i wasnt targeted but to be honest i was afraid of it, since so many people said Virus = town day 1 i was very afraid that i was a prime target, so saving me would make sense in my opinion. although apparently he made a mistake in his reasoning.

[Iron Butterfly]

I like your theory. "You're scum if you're the hammer on a townie and you're scum if you aren't the hammer"

Feel free to come up with some theory then.

you have yet to make a read on anyone today. Or comment on night kills.

We do not need "theories" we need to hang scum.

I have no "proof" but firmly believe mafia was on the HS lynch. I am curious why Mtam chooses to focus on Wing's voters like it was some sort of light bulb that went off in his head rather then the dwindling pool on HS?

[StorrZerg]

based on the timing of the votes, i think its clear mafia stayed close to the early section of the vote, and didnt want to move latter.... They didnt care which vote took off between wing/hotshot

Really think you should look into aog. from the wing wagon.

[strike wolf]

Still rereading. Went through all of Mtam's posts...Seems heavy on the third party issue even before bringing up his SK theory...Seems like knowledge he gained from his role PM.

IB-slightly scummy read just from posts but at the moment, I am willing to accept his Vig claim.

Going to try to get through AoG, NoS and Rishaed by this time tomorrow. Tentative reads at the moment. AoG-Scummy vibe but nothing particularly solid that i have it backed on which is why I want to reread him. NoS-Scummy play though the Win con argument probably should be thrown out as Wing's was anomalous to my own and hotshot. With the claim of Doc and no counter claim, I am hesitant at best to pursue him in a game with multiple kills. Rishaed-Town read early. Still leaning that way but want to revisit it with fresh eyes now that he has stated that he doesn't have a pr.

[mtamburini]

I like your theory. "You're scum if you're the hammer on a townie and you're scum if you aren't the hammer"

Feel free to come up with some theory then.

you have yet to make a read on anyone today. Or comment on night kills.

We do not need "theories" we need to hang scum.

I have no "proof" but firmly believe mafia was on the HS lynch. I am curious why Mtam chooses to focus on Wing's voters like it was some sort of light bulb that went off in his head rather then the dwindling pool on HS?

It was more directed at rishead why he wasnt looking into that vote as well and just one vote.

[mtamburini]

If streaker was recruiting last night he would die to the person he tried to recruit if they were not town right?

[mtamburini]

thikning about the possible potential set up we could be in I think town has already lost, so i will talk directly to the SK. You need to kill mafia tonight or lynch mafia today if you want to stand a chance of winning, i think we are possibly in a situation where there are only 5 towns alive and then a 3 mafia team and 2 third parties. BEST CASE were at 6 towns 3 mafia 1 third party, in which stor will eventually have to be lynched as he is spoken that he is not town but not until some mafia are dead.

[rishaed]

I like your theory. "You're scum if you're the hammer on a townie and you're scum if you aren't the hammer"

Feel free to come up with some theory then.

you have yet to make a read on anyone today. Or comment on night kills.

We do not need "theories" we need to hang scum.

I have no "proof" but firmly believe mafia was on the HS lynch. I am curious why Mtam chooses to focus on Wing's voters like it was some sort of light bulb that went off in his head rather then the dwindling pool on HS?

It was more directed at rishead why he wasnt looking into that vote as well and just one vote.

Because our chances are better. Also we do not have to lynch storr today. I have finals this week so until saturday i won't be able to give much input.

[StorrZerg]

If streaker was recruiting last night he would die to the person he tried to recruit if they were not town right?

He was shot by ib.


Possible a bus was used, but that's crazy talk.

[StorrZerg]

can people place some votes, so we get an idea? All this talk, but nothing to back it up.

[Army of GOD]

I'm gonna go ahead and vote rishaed


I assumed (like most) that he had some sort of PR day 1 but now he seems to be posting fine. He also (as he admitted) forced two townies to claim D1, acting like he's some scum hunter supreme, knowing that scum hunters are more likely to be seen as town. It just seems like a veteran scum play, instead of scumarining he's trying to gain attention to not seem as scummy.


it's weird, but that's what I think. I've liked strike's posts recently so I see him more as town.

Along with rish, I have virus as scum. He's been laying very low this game.

everyone else is either town or neutral or Storr.

[Iron Butterfly]

thikning about the possible potential set up we could be in I think town has already lost, so i will talk directly to the SK. You need to kill mafia tonight or lynch mafia today if you want to stand a chance of winning, i think we are possibly in a situation where there are only 5 towns alive and then a 3 mafia team and 2 third parties. BEST CASE were at 6 towns 3 mafia 1 third party, in which stor will eventually have to be lynched as he is spoken that he is not town but not until some mafia are dead.

I have already told you I am Town vig and I killed Streaker. You either believe me or you do not. You keep throwing these what if scenarios around as if they mean something while all they do is muddy the situation. There would not be three kills and a recruiter. That would be just stupid.

If there is a SK you think he does not know what is what? You keep acting like you are helping Town when you are playing like Capt Obvious.

SK does not have xray vision. He would be blind to Town and mafia so your plea is meaningless drivel.

vote mtam

[mtamburini]

I like your theory. "You're scum if you're the hammer on a townie and you're scum if you aren't the hammer"

Feel free to come up with some theory then.

you have yet to make a read on anyone today. Or comment on night kills.

We do not need "theories" we need to hang scum.

I have no "proof" but firmly believe mafia was on the HS lynch. I am curious why Mtam chooses to focus on Wing's voters like it was some sort of light bulb that went off in his head rather then the dwindling pool on HS?

It was more directed at rishead why he wasnt looking into that vote as well and just one vote.

Because our chances are better. Also we do not have to lynch storr today. I have finals this week so until saturday i won't be able to give much input.

why are the chances better

[mtamburini]

thikning about the possible potential set up we could be in I think town has already lost, so i will talk directly to the SK. You need to kill mafia tonight or lynch mafia today if you want to stand a chance of winning, i think we are possibly in a situation where there are only 5 towns alive and then a 3 mafia team and 2 third parties. BEST CASE were at 6 towns 3 mafia 1 third party, in which stor will eventually have to be lynched as he is spoken that he is not town but not until some mafia are dead.

I have already told you I am Town vig and I killed Streaker. You either believe me or you do not. You keep throwing these what if scenarios around as if they mean something while all they do is muddy the situation. There would not be three kills and a recruiter. That would be just stupid.

If there is a SK you think he does not know what is what? You keep acting like you are helping Town when you are playing like Capt Obvious.

SK does not have xray vision. He would be blind to Town and mafia so your plea is meaningless drivel.

vote mtam

When did I say you were not a vig?

We're controlling your shot tongiht just to be safe

[virus90]

what is with hotshot claiming 2 colors in his role and in the scene there is a double blue? mod mistake? ... we only saw blue blue, red red so far, rishaed you have blue red? do people care to share there code names? maybe we can make something of that? not sure, but have some theories i would like to put to the test based on the claims seen so far.
as for good will: i am the 7 of Zurfs. blue blue for the people interested in that part to...

My role involves me having a duo action in which hotshot claimed to have, therefore I am inclined to believe that there are 2 factions of 2 most likely or a bunch of sks, someone mentioned something about one sk having to kill another or something like that which has intrigued my interest because that would make IB prime suspect as his reasoning for kill streaker lines up with him trying to find the person who he must kill to achieve his win con.

@IB are you a one shot vig or can u shoot again?

Why would you believe there are 2 factions of 2, and is there another faction that is town? how do you see this game like that ? is it just plain badluck that both factions targeted town if we have 2 factions?
i might kind of hope for 2 factions as that would leave the possibility of them killing eachother....
@ mtam and this post what exactlu did you mean with the first sentence hotshots claim and you, i didnt get that. you got the same role ?
@ mtam on streaker dying if recruiting anti-town, interesting thought, but there is one flaw in the reasoning. IB claimed that he killed him....

@aog... im not a big poster indeed, i only get around once a day usually and that doesnt work everyday. Especially since it always takes me ages to catch up and write posts. i am not a big spam poster i tend to post only a few times but i try to give reads and opinions in these posts as to participate in the game. for me its impossible to post more often since im basicly either asleep or at work the rest of the time and it easily takes me an hour to fully read and write a post.

i would like pressure on AoG, Mtam and DD today since these are my main anti-town reads.
ill vote mtam for the flaw mentioned above.
besides mtam come with some reads... we can all tak about the 1000 different possible setups but that doenst help much in reading who is what.

fped by mtam... well see the flawed conclusion i am referring that is basicly you saying ib is not a vig, or did you forget at that moment?

[strike wolf]

Unless I see a dead mafia busdriver, I would never suggest controlling the vig kill. especially if we mislynch today, a bad vig kill and two other anti-town kills could be end game.

[Metsfanmax]

I'm gonna go ahead and vote rishaed


I assumed (like most) that he had some sort of PR day 1 but now he seems to be posting fine. He also (as he admitted) forced two townies to claim D1, acting like he's some scum hunter supreme, knowing that scum hunters are more likely to be seen as town. It just seems like a veteran scum play, instead of scumarining he's trying to gain attention to not seem as scummy.


it's weird, but that's what I think. I've liked strike's posts recently so I see him more as town.

Along with rish, I have virus as scum. He's been laying very low this game.

everyone else is either town or neutral or Storr.

virus is telling the truth that in general he's not a super active poster, but usually does contribute when he has the time. I don't think this is particularly out of character for him.

[rishaed]

I'm gonna go ahead and vote rishaed


I assumed (like most) that he had some sort of PR day 1 but now he seems to be posting fine. He also (as he admitted) forced two townies to claim D1, acting like he's some scum hunter supreme, knowing that scum hunters are more likely to be seen as town. It just seems like a veteran scum play, instead of scumarining he's trying to gain attention to not seem as scummy.


it's weird, but that's what I think. I've liked strike's posts recently so I see him more as town.

Along with rish, I have virus as scum. He's been laying very low this game.

everyone else is either town or neutral or Storr.

I get back from a final to find this
I may not be happy with the roles that were claimed, but I will not regret causing the people i found scummy to claim. Also, I did it with a self imposed post restriction that i was doing to enjoy day one. In comparison please tell me what cases you built. The only reason you would have to not want any information D1 and just a lynch is questionable.
Mtamb, did you read any of my earlier posts explaining my reasoning. Those are intrinsically the reasons why we should get claims from the hotshot lynch today.
Also Virus my colors are not red/blue or blue/blue, but i have 2 colors. one of which is blue.

[DoomYoshi]

what is with hotshot claiming 2 colors in his role and in the scene there is a double blue? mod mistake?

[mtamburini]

I'm gonna go ahead and vote rishaed


I assumed (like most) that he had some sort of PR day 1 but now he seems to be posting fine. He also (as he admitted) forced two townies to claim D1, acting like he's some scum hunter supreme, knowing that scum hunters are more likely to be seen as town. It just seems like a veteran scum play, instead of scumarining he's trying to gain attention to not seem as scummy.


it's weird, but that's what I think. I've liked strike's posts recently so I see him more as town.

Along with rish, I have virus as scum. He's been laying very low this game.

everyone else is either town or neutral or Storr.

I get back from a final to find this
I may not be happy with the roles that were claimed, but I will not regret causing the people i found scummy to claim. Also, I did it with a self imposed post restriction that i was doing to enjoy day one. In comparison please tell me what cases you built. The only reason you would have to not want any information D1 and just a lynch is questionable.
Mtamb, did you read any of my earlier posts explaining my reasoning. Those are intrinsically the reasons why we should get claims from the hotshot lynch today.
Also Virus my colors are not red/blue or blue/blue, but i have 2 colors. one of which is blue.

Maybe I am not understanding, but what difference does it make both are now confirmed town so just because hotshot got lynched means all the scum voted on him and all the town voted wing?

Scum probably voted on both.

I await to hear your response

[NoSurvivors]

I am so confused as to why it's more likely that scum voted on one than the other... it just doesn't make any sense to me. I think scum probably voted on both; scummy behaviour might be the best lynch today. I want to go back and read some stuff that HS said about IB, because he seemed fairly convinced that IB was scum. I did not expect both HS and wing to flip town honestly, but they did. I think many of our D1 conclusions may have been wrong.

For rishead, I almost want to AGREE with AoG with his thoughts on "hiding in plain sight" thing, because what better way to hide from pressure than by making stupid posts D1 so no one has anything to go off of, and then having something to hide behind if called out on another day "you are going to lynch me because I had some fun?" I don't like that he go to dilly around D1 and stay away from pressure because of it. And since I don't follow the whole day right now (nothing you guys say makes much sense to me, honestly... it is too confusing), I will put my vote on rishead. vote rishead.

I will go back and look at IB's posts eventually and get back to you. Might flip my vote to IB if I find anything worthy of questioning, but my vote is on rishead. Could be my lack of experience, but I think that it might be just so obvious that the rest of you pass it off as "rishead isnt that obvious".