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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:26 am
by oaktown
Poll results:
Which title do you prefer? (see p1/44 for options)
A: 7, 23%
B: 8, 26%
C: 5, 16%
D: 1, 3%
E: 6, 20%
F: 1, 3%
G: 2, 6%
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:37 am
by MrBenn
edbeard wrote:so transcontinental is a really +5 total and does not include an override right?
ZeakCytho wrote:If you hold kgd and Russia you get +1. If you hold those two plus Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Turkey, you get another +3, for a total of +4, right?
edbeard is right on this...
The whole of Transcontinental is worth +5, but 1 of that is the motherland bonus...
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:02 am
by Ruben Cassar
Ben will you be using that Latin quote in the title since option B was selected?
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:52 am
by The Viking
How about a similar bonus for Denmark + Faroe Islands + Greenland?
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:56 am
by yeti_c
The Viking wrote:How about a similar bonus for Denmark + Faroe Islands + Greenland?
I suspect that we may be overegging the pudding if we add too many random bonuses in?!
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:59 am
by max is gr8
I believe the Pharaoh islands and Greenland are vassals of Denmark, I believe that is what he is referring to
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:59 am
by The Viking
Yeah you're probably right.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:03 am
by max is gr8
How am I probably right it's your idea. I'm either right or wrong
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:05 am
by yeti_c
max is gr8 wrote:How am I probably right it's your idea. I'm either right or wrong
I assume he was replying to me!!
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:07 am
by max is gr8
lol, maybe. But I think yeti is right anyway. Motherland works because it adds an extra border and you have to go through a few territories to get to it.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:23 pm
by MrBenn
Ruben Cassar wrote:Ben will you be using that Latin quote in the title since option B was selected?
I'm going to work on something for the title... I thought the voting was too close to warrant just plumping with B - especially as there were several favourable commnets about the latin phrase. Expect something to pop up during the week.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:28 pm
by MrBenn
The Viking wrote:How about a similar bonus for Denmark + Faroe Islands + Greenland?
I totally understand the motive for suggesting this, but am going to pass on it.
The 'Motherland' bonus is there to accomodate the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, and to make it a vaguely attractive target at the beginning of the game. Scandinavia doesn't need this, as it is a contiguos (sp?) region.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:14 pm
by edbeard
Ruben Cassar wrote:Ben will you be using that Latin quote in the title since option B was selected?
I hope he doesn't blindly use B on a vote where it had 8 votes and other options had 7, 6, and 5 votes.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:28 pm
by yeti_c
MrBenn wrote:contiguos (sp?)
Contiguous.
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:28 pm
by yeti_c
edbeard wrote:Ruben Cassar wrote:Ben will you be using that Latin quote in the title since option B was selected?
I hope he doesn't blindly use B on a vote where it had 8 votes and other options had 7, 6, and votes.
Completely agree on this point.
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:09 pm
by MarVal
Question:yeti_c wrote:edbeard wrote:Ruben Cassar wrote:Ben will you be using that Latin quote in the title since option B was selected?
I hope he doesn't blindly use B on a vote where it had 8 votes and other options had 7, 6, and votes.
Completely agree on this point.
C.
Answer:MrBenn wrote:I'm going to work on something for the title... I thought the voting was too close to warrant just plumping with B - especially as there were several favourable commnets about the latin phrase. Expect something to pop up during the week.
Grtz
MarVal
europe map
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:10 am
by $t0kA
i think it is very well done i would love to play it and it is just so realistic as it has about every country in there.the colours are well done and it is very clear...dont listen to these guys...
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I] >UPDATE & TITLE POLL p1/44<
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:03 pm
by MrBenn
MrBenn wrote:Update!- I've removed the +1 from the minimap (for the motherland bonus) which helps avoid confusion. I experimneted with putting an asterisk/other symbol there, but this didn't help clarity.
- I've also made the 'motherland' text less fuzzy.
- The territory labels for San Marino (sm) and Vatican City (vc) have been shifted so that they don't look like smo/vco
- The title is temporarily absent - I've asked that the poll be removed, and I'll have a look at trying something based upon the outcome of that!

I'm still working on the title...
....anything else anybody wants to pick up??
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:40 pm
by Ogrecrusher
I think the rivers should look like rivers not fjords, if you see what I mean.
Right now they just look like long narrow inlets.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:21 am
by iancanton
does the sea look a bit darker near scandinavia and lighter in the south? can u make it lighter near scandinavia to contrast with the blue of the latter?
the army shadows are suitably subtle. even on the small version, they do not take over the map. are blue armies clearly distinguishable from scandinavian blue?
can u use internationally-recognised abbreviations for country names instead of made-up ones? below are links to both 2-letter and 3-letter iso codes. the 2-letter codes are in wider everyday use because of the internet, although the united nations uses the 3-letter codes.
http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes/is ... ements.htmhttp://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/en ... eoname.pdfthe one that most needs to change is liechtenstein, since
lt is the official 2-letter iso code for lithuania, which is also on the map (
lt is, for example, used as the lithuanian internet top-level domain code, while
li is liechtenstein's equivalent).
http://www.liechtenstein.li/en/fl-staat-gemeinden-vaduzfive other abbreviations on our map are used by different territories as their official iso codes and these are given below.
bh: bahrain
mo: macao
sl: sierra leone
vc: saint vincent & the grenadines
mac: macao
connect the peloponnese peninsula to mainland greece by drawing in the isthmus of corinth on the eastern side, to the right of the army count. at the moment, the peloponnese looks too much like a med island.
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/europe/greece/qwert wrote:I think that Malta,Crete and ciprus must be a part of mediteranean,and Grecce part of Balkan.
if we renamed the balkan states continent as north balkans, then do u think everyone would be satisfied?
transcontinental has 6 territories, of which 3 are border territories. i think +5 (+4 and +1 motherland) is too high: classic africa also has 6 territories, of which 3 are border territories, and is only +3, without the benefit of a sub-bonus as a stepping-stone.
ian.

Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:38 am
by JNutZ
erm...just for your information Slovenia isn't balkan state it belongs to Central Europe...that's what they thaught us in school

Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:16 pm
by Ruben Cassar
JNutZ wrote:erm...just for your information Slovenia isn't balkan state it belongs to Central Europe...that's what they thaught us in school

Bloody hell...the brainwashing begins at an early age in Slovenia apparently!

Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:50 pm
by MrBenn
Thanks for reminding me about that Ian - I know you've mentioned it before
I've got a couple of new titles, but can't get online at home to upload them

Hopefully t'internet will be up again soon

Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:11 am
by MrBenn
Otto von Bismark wrote:If there is ever another war in Europe, it will come out of some damned silly thing in the Balkans.
iancanton wrote:qwert wrote:I think that Malta,Crete and ciprus must be a part of mediteranean,and Grecce part of Balkan.
if we renamed the balkan states continent as north balkans, then do u think everyone would be satisfied?
Ruben Cassar wrote:JNutZ wrote:erm...just for your information Slovenia isn't balkan state it belongs to Central Europe...that's what they thaught us in school

Bloody hell...the brainwashing begins at an early age in Slovenia apparently!

Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:29 am
by ZeakCytho
MrBenn wrote:Otto von Bismark wrote:If there is ever another war in Europe, it will come out of some damned silly thing in the Balkans.
iancanton wrote:qwert wrote:I think that Malta,Crete and ciprus must be a part of mediteranean,and Grecce part of Balkan.
if we renamed the balkan states continent as north balkans, then do u think everyone would be satisfied?
Ruben Cassar wrote:JNutZ wrote:erm...just for your information Slovenia isn't balkan state it belongs to Central Europe...that's what they thaught us in school

Bloody hell...the brainwashing begins at an early age in Slovenia apparently!

Though Bismark was proved correct with the onset of WWI, the quote is quite applicable

I'm all in favor of keeping the continents as they are now and not screwing with it any more. Because there's no way to get it 100% accurate or please everybody. So can we stop talking about the continent layout (that's probably been the focus of 60% of this thread so far) and move on to something like graphics?
That being said, I have no new suggestions...
