Conquer Club

jonesthecurl wrote:

In 2019, an estimated 38,800 people lost their lives to car crashes – a 2% decline from 2018 (39,404 deaths) and a 4% decline from 2017 (40,231 deaths)

That's a little over half the covid deaths so far.

and car crashes aren't infectious.

But alot of car crashes are also the fault of the Chinese (sorry Mrs, but you know it's true)

"A few more" is a relative term. I would think that those who have kept up with the details of this disease understand that concept, such as # of deaths per million people is a state or country. Realize that there are some 330 plus Million people in the USA, so 70,000 of 330 million is "relatively FEW".

As I said, this COVID-19 is like a bad FLU; here is my supporting data:

69,128 deaths in USA due to COVID-19, as of 5/4/20

Per CDC, the # of deaths due to influenza (flu) is between 12,000 and 61, 000 in the USA (2011-12 season up to 2018-19 season)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Now I am not saying each life lost is NOT important, but we need to understand the MAGNITUDE of this disease.

jonesthecurl wrote:"A few more"?
This thing has already killed more US people than the Vietnam war, twice as many as the Korean war, over a dozen times as many as 9/11. How many deaths would justify restrictions?
Be the first one on your block to have your gran brought home in a box buried in a mass grave

jusplay4fun wrote:"A few more" is a relative term. I would think that those who have kept up with the details of this disease understand that concept, such as # of deaths per million people is a state or country. Realize that there are some 330 plus Million people in the USA, so 70,000 of 330 million is "relatively FEW".

As I said, this COVID-19 is like a bad FLU; here is my supporting data:

69,128 deaths in USA due to COVID-19, as of 5/4/20

Per CDC, the # of deaths due to influenza (flu) is between 12,000 and 61, 000 in the USA (2011-12 season up to 2018-19 season)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Now I am not saying each life lost is NOT important, but we need to understand the MAGNITUDE of this disease.

Actually, I read a really interesting article today about this Covid vs. Influenza debate.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... o-oranges/

I think you should read the whole article, but if you don't have time, I'll quote the most significant passage:

The 25,000 to 69,000 numbers that Trump cited do not represent counted flu deaths per year; they are estimates that the CDC produces by multiplying the number of flu death counts reported by various coefficients produced through complicated algorithms. These coefficients are based on assumptions of how many cases, hospitalizations, and deaths they believe went unreported. In the last six flu seasons, the CDC’s reported number of actual confirmed flu deaths—that is, counting flu deaths the way we are currently counting deaths from the coronavirus—has ranged from 3,448 to 15,620, which far lower than the numbers commonly repeated by public officials and even public health experts.

There is some logic behind the CDC’s methods. There are, of course, some flu deaths that are missed, because not everyone who contracts the flu gets a flu test. But there are little data to support the CDC’s assumption that the number of people who die of flu each year is on average six times greater than the number of flu deaths that are actually confirmed. In fact, in the fine print, the CDC’s flu numbers also include pneumonia deaths.

The 69,000 deaths (well, getting close to 70,000 and probably will be by morning) by Covid in the U.S. are actual, verified cases. The "25,000 to 69,000" flu deaths are an estimate, based on various assumptions (such as assuming that most flu cases are not recorded as such; that many cases, being among very old people, are just recorded as "natural causes") The actual tested and verified number of flu deaths in the U.S. is between 3500 and 16,000, a vastly lower number.

I think you will agree that comparing tested and verified cases for one disease versus estimates for the other is not the logical way to compare these. One should always compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges, at least whenever possible. If you compare the 70,000 tested and verified Covid deaths to the 3,448 to 15,620 tested and verified Influenza deaths, a very different picture emerges. By that measure, Covid has already killed between 5 times and 20 times the number of people as Influenza usually does. And, needless to say, it's not done yet.

I don't necessarily disagree with your main thesis. I think the lockdowns are blunt instruments and there are far more focused ways to fight the disease. But I do think it's important to know what we're talking about. An apples to apples comparison shows Covid as being far, far worse than Influenza.

https://www.economist.com/science-and-t ... h-covid-19

Vindication for the smokers of the world who have been paying the most regressive taxes every created for the last 30+ years.

( I know duk, it has a stupid paywall )

mookiemcgee wrote:https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2020/05/02/smokers-seem-less-likely-than-non-smokers-to-fall-ill-with-covid-19

Vindication for the smokers of the world who have been paying the most regressive taxes every created for the last 30+ years.

( I know duk, it has a stupid paywall )

One World Government hates smoking because it counteracts their synthetic COVID-19 and disperses the chemtrails!

mrswdk wrote:

mookiemcgee wrote:https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2020/05/02/smokers-seem-less-likely-than-non-smokers-to-fall-ill-with-covid-19

Vindication for the smokers of the world who have been paying the most regressive taxes every created for the last 30+ years.

( I know duk, it has a stupid paywall )

One World Government hates smoking because it counteracts their synthetic COVID-19 and disperses the chemtrails!

I'm not kidding, this stuff is legit. They are going to start testing nicoteen patches on Covid patients in France

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... oronavirus

The renowned French neurobiologist Jean-Pierre Changeux, who reviewed the study, suggested the nicotine might stop the virus from reaching cells in the body preventing its spread. Nicotine may also lessen the overreaction of the body’s immune system that has been found in the most severe cases of Covid-19 infection.

Here's some hard data:
https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 2/fulltext

Fun little ditty:

Trumps safe from covid-19, at least according to saxi. He believes Trump has intense internalized UV light. Saxi thinks the sun shines out of Trump's arse.

jonesthecurl wrote:Trumps safe from covid-19, at least according to saxi. He believes Trump has intense internalized UV light. Saxi thinks the sun shines out of Trump's arse.

And of course his face is orange because he keeps sticking his head in his arse and getting sunburn.

Well, it turns out one of the president's valets has been diagnosed with COVID-19 and yet Trump is still free. So if Donald Trump doesn't even contract COVID-19 when the person responsible for dressing him is infected for days seems to indicate it's prophecy he lead America.

saxitoxin wrote:Well, it turns out one of the president's valets has been diagnosed with COVID-19 and yet Trump is still free. So if Donald Trump doesn't even contract COVID-19 when the person responsible for dressing him is infected for days seems to indicate it's prophecy he lead America.

Maybe we should start calling him Kim Jung Trump, it sounds like the type of leader you want to mold him into.

Kim OLD Trump...

Nice video:

and ivanka's personal assistant got it too

betiko wrote:and ivanka's personal assistant got it too

Time to open up.

keep the tanning beds open

The Rats are now styling themselves as reverse Robin Hoods, stealing from the poor to give to the rich ... new Rat legislation proposes direct handouts to the (almost) Top 1%.

The Student Loan Forgiveness for Frontline Health Workers Act, which Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., introduced Tuesday, goes even further.

If passed, the bill would forgive all federal and private student loans for medial professionals who are directly interacting with COVID-19 patients, including front-line doctors

https://abcnews.go.com/US/bill-forgive- ... d=70509644

The mean salary of a doctor in the United States is $294,000/year according to a Medscape Report.

https://medium.com/nomad-health/complet ... bbbc0a6186

The United States threshold for a top 1% individual earner was $328,551.00 in 2019.

https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/

you guys remember when in early april trump said that if the US has less than a 100k death it will be a huge success for his administration? like he thought he gave a safe number not to look again like an idiot... like when in february he said that there could be 1, 2 or 5 cases but tomorrow there will be 1 or zero?

also wtf with russia.. they are getting 10k+ cases everyday now... and the death toll according to them isn't really climbing much

betiko wrote:you guys remember when in early april trump said that if the US has less than a 100k death it will be a huge success for his administration? like he thought he gave a safe number not to look again like an idiot... like when in february he said that there could be 1, 2 or 5 cases but tomorrow there will be 1 or zero?

also wtf with russia.. they are getting 10k+ cases everyday now... and the death toll according to them isn't really climbing much

The Russian stats don't work.

In other news, this is one of my favorite paper graphics.



You might think it's a joke. It's not:
https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fu ... 20)30238-2

American ingenuity wins again!

American scientists working in America have developed an autonomous robot to patrol American grocery stores and engage/kill coronavirus with ultraviolet radiation (Whole Foods - so communist American grocery stores, but American nonetheless).



Plus, because the robots are only armed with UV emitters, they could be easily defeated if they were to turn their weapons against humans.

America Priority #1 for Vaccine!

Sanofi has confirmed Americans will get the C19 vaccine first since President Trump has devoted more resources to finding a cure than the bumbling, Beta Bitch European rulers with their sky-high mortality rates.

French pharmaceutical giant Sanofi CEO Paul Hudson has said that the US will likely have first access to its Covid-19 vaccine if it succeeds.

In an interview with Bloomberg News, Hudson noted that the US was the first to fund Sanofi’s vaccine research and hence has the right to the largest pre-order.

Hudson was quoted as saying: “The US government has the right to the largest pre-order because it’s invested in taking the risk,” and the US expects that “if we’ve helped you manufacture the doses at risk, we expect to get the doses first.”

https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.c ... us-access/

This is what it's like to be an Alpha Dog. The Beta Bitch countries give you their medicine even before themselves.

Thank you, President Trump!

nice, like that you guys will be the BETA testers, given that you are the ALPHA in terms of death and cases.

THE CURE IS A NICOTINE PATCH!