Conquer Club

CM5 says that the post that saying jak is guilty has "something amiss", if his ability had just been one-shot, no other powers. I would have lynched jak, because I wouldn't believe the claim. I say, that cop re-investigates jak, and that the BD does not mess things up that should give us a reliable result.

jonty125 wrote:CM5 says that the post that saying jak is guilty has "something amiss", if his ability had just been one-shot, no other powers. I would have lynched jak, because I wouldn't believe the claim. I say, that cop re-investigates jak, and that the BD does not mess things up that should give us a reliable result.

Then again, I'm assuming cop doesn't get killed/roleblocked and other variables. unvote vote jak, I can't conceive a plan to test his alignment tonight so let's FTC.

dazza2008 wrote:Jak I did not say you were both definately scum. I said you could be. I said I do not trust your claim and that I think we should lynch you. Nothing you have said has made me change my mind on that. I said if you do flip scum the Crazy might well be too.

I did say Crazy might as well full claim. Your answer that I should claim is just stupid. He has already claimed so he should be specific so we can see if it fits flavour wise.

You are also saying that it makes him a target. How does it? He claimed a 1-shot ability and already used it. Why would full claiming make him a target?

You also say that the cop is going to die tonight but I don't see how since we are still likely to have powers to keep him alive or a watcher or something to catch the killer in the act.

You coming up as guilty is enough for me to think you should be lynched and your other actions are making me more sure it will be a good lynch for town.

I see he has already claimed, but some roles need certain players alive, some Im guessing must want them dead, otherwise there would be no conflicting WC's and there would be no point to the game. Now that he's claimed Im sure you see why his name would be important...

So the cop is going to die, but at least we can catch the killer! Why would you want the cop dead in the first place? Sure it means we get another mafia/SK/Cult/Something???, but we lose our cop which I at least find as an important role

Overall, I FOS everyone who wanted a claim and I still dont support a lynch on Jak as I dont know if they are mason partners and can talk or not, but it would make since as to why Crazy would investigate the post he did, to clear Jak that is.

crazymilkshake5 wrote:I am Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs.

Town Roleblocker.

and the ability i used was my "gut" which, if you watch NCIS you know Jethro's gut is always right.

Theres your claim, now mafia have 3 targets they could take out.

for the love of God, nobody else claim.

I'm going to have to agree with Edoc on this one, I said for you to not claim because I KNEW WHO YOU WERE.. ffs... Now I'm all for lynching either Strike, Dazza, or Jonty. All three wished to out CMS's role.

Jonty further tries to direct the town cop again. I have given that I am 3rd party, why waste his NA on me when he knows the result?

As for New Guy, no, we're not mason partners, only I knew who CMS was, he doesn't know who I am. So any tests on the above 3 I'd support in either getting information out of them or lynching them. I hoped CMS picked up on my soft telling that I knew who he was, but with the 3 of you he didn't.

Call is MY 'gut' feeling, but 2 out of 3 people who wanted CMS to claim are also voting me because they "don't believe" me like they didn't believe CMS. So with this part I'm more keen to lynch Jonty or Dazza out of the 3 because they are the two playing the "I didn't believe you" card, and will pull it once I'm lynched and I come up exactly as I told you I would.

So now that the person who I need alive is out in the open I guess I'm going to have to fight you guys back to the wall to protect him during the day time. Without a NA I can't help him, so hopefully town helps him out.

If I could do it again I would do it again. I'm not gonna sit back and say oh well he said this I guess I'll believe him. his claim was vague and even his choice of who to look at was odd. seems like it would have made more sense to investigate the claim of the person with the guilty result. so I stand by he should have name claimed

new guy1 wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:Jak I did not say you were both definately scum. I said you could be. I said I do not trust your claim and that I think we should lynch you. Nothing you have said has made me change my mind on that. I said if you do flip scum the Crazy might well be too.

I did say Crazy might as well full claim. Your answer that I should claim is just stupid. He has already claimed so he should be specific so we can see if it fits flavour wise.

You are also saying that it makes him a target. How does it? He claimed a 1-shot ability and already used it. Why would full claiming make him a target?

You also say that the cop is going to die tonight but I don't see how since we are still likely to have powers to keep him alive or a watcher or something to catch the killer in the act.

You coming up as guilty is enough for me to think you should be lynched and your other actions are making me more sure it will be a good lynch for town.

I see he has already claimed, but some roles need certain players alive, some Im guessing must want them dead, otherwise there would be no conflicting WC's and there would be no point to the game. Now that he's claimed Im sure you see why his name would be important...

So the cop is going to die, but at least we can catch the killer! Why would you want the cop dead in the first place? Sure it means we get another mafia/SK/Cult/Something???, but we lose our cop which I at least find as an important role

Overall, I FOS everyone who wanted a claim and I still dont support a lynch on Jak as I dont know if they are mason partners and can talk or not, but it would make since as to why Crazy would investigate the post he did, to clear Jak that is.

Could you twist what I said any more???

The blue part is bollocks mate. I said we probably have something to protect him but in the worst case we probably have a watcher or something so the killer will be caught. Scum know this so the cop is unlikely to even be targetted tonight.

jak111 wrote:

crazymilkshake5 wrote:I am Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs.

Town Roleblocker.

and the ability i used was my "gut" which, if you watch NCIS you know Jethro's gut is always right.

Theres your claim, now mafia have 3 targets they could take out.

for the love of God, nobody else claim.

I'm going to have to agree with Edoc on this one, I said for you to not claim because I KNEW WHO YOU WERE.. ffs... Now I'm all for lynching either Strike, Dazza, or Jonty. All three wished to out CMS's role.

Jonty further tries to direct the town cop again. I have given that I am 3rd party, why waste his NA on me when he knows the result?

As for New Guy, no, we're not mason partners, only I knew who CMS was, he doesn't know who I am. So any tests on the above 3 I'd support in either getting information out of them or lynching them. I hoped CMS picked up on my soft telling that I knew who he was, but with the 3 of you he didn't.

Call is MY 'gut' feeling, but 2 out of 3 people who wanted CMS to claim are also voting me because they "don't believe" me like they didn't believe CMS. So with this part I'm more keen to lynch Jonty or Dazza out of the 3 because they are the two playing the "I didn't believe you" card, and will pull it once I'm lynched and I come up exactly as I told you I would.

So now that the person who I need alive is out in the open I guess I'm going to have to fight you guys back to the wall to protect him during the day time. Without a NA I can't help him, so hopefully town helps him out.

This whole post is scummy as f*ck. You say you want to lynch one of us. Would you not rather make a case and pressure us? One of us could be the doc or something. It is not my fault the way people played this. I guess I was wrong to ask for a full claim but the way it was worded was not clear and what was "amiss" is also not ever going to be clear. My vote is staying on you. You came up guilty and I see no reason to no want you dead.

I know he came up guilty, but we do not know the cop's sanity at this point. Why kill someone when they can offer input and such when we have a whole day left? I understand we have three claims, but I feel uneasy with how you are wanting the day to end so quickly. What's the rush?

new guy1 wrote:I know he came up guilty, but we do not know the cop's sanity at this point. Why kill someone when they can offer input and such when we have a whole day left? I understand we have three claims, but I feel uneasy with how you are wanting the day to end so quickly. What's the rush?

What's the point of dragging on? We have a guilty, we should hang. Best and simplest way to test sanity. AT worst he isn't town at best he is a lying scum, so what do we care? His claim is fairly solid, but it is plausible that it is reserved for a fake.

I suppose I understand when you put it that way. He is third party and he did get guilty :/. Let me think on it a little bit to determine if I want to vote him or not... Im tired and have a headache so I dont want to make a mistake (mistake IMO that is).

Day 2: Third Official Vote Count:

crazymilkshake5
dazza2008
happyfeet:
Iron Butterfly
isaiah40:
jak111: thechuck51, edocsil, safariguy5, jonty125 (L-3)
jgordon1111:
jonty125:
macbone
Mr. Squirrel:
safariguy5:
strike wolf
thechuck51
no lynch: isaiah40

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline in about 157 hours.

new guy1 wrote:I know he came up guilty, but we do not know the cop's sanity at this point. Why kill someone when they can offer input and such when we have a whole day left? I understand we have three claims, but I feel uneasy with how you are wanting the day to end so quickly. What's the rush?

I can't see an easier way to test his sanity than lynch jak. Like edoc said at worst we lynch a third party at best we have a dead scumbag.

dazza2008 wrote:

new guy1 wrote:I know he came up guilty, but we do not know the cop's sanity at this point. Why kill someone when they can offer input and such when we have a whole day left? I understand we have three claims, but I feel uneasy with how you are wanting the day to end so quickly. What's the rush?

I can't see an easier way to test his sanity than lynch jak. Like edoc said at worst we lynch a third party at best we have a dead scumbag.

See this is why I don't like claiming 3rd party. Town isn't interested in keeping ya alive so it's like why bother siding with them.. yet being FORCED to side with them at that.

jak111 wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:

new guy1 wrote:I know he came up guilty, but we do not know the cop's sanity at this point. Why kill someone when they can offer input and such when we have a whole day left? I understand we have three claims, but I feel uneasy with how you are wanting the day to end so quickly. What's the rush?

I can't see an easier way to test his sanity than lynch jak. Like edoc said at worst we lynch a third party at best we have a dead scumbag.

See this is why I don't like claiming 3rd party. Town isn't interested in keeping ya alive so it's like why bother siding with them.. yet being FORCED to side with them at that.

And that is exactly why you should A: Lie, B, work harder to appear innocent. 3rd party claims suck, and you will be hung at the drop of a hat. If there wasn't the guilty over your head we would leave you alone, but as it is there really isn't a terrible large point to keep you.

edocsil wrote:

jak111 wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:

new guy1 wrote:I know he came up guilty, but we do not know the cop's sanity at this point. Why kill someone when they can offer input and such when we have a whole day left? I understand we have three claims, but I feel uneasy with how you are wanting the day to end so quickly. What's the rush?

I can't see an easier way to test his sanity than lynch jak. Like edoc said at worst we lynch a third party at best we have a dead scumbag.

See this is why I don't like claiming 3rd party. Town isn't interested in keeping ya alive so it's like why bother siding with them.. yet being FORCED to side with them at that.

And that is exactly why you should A: Lie, B, work harder to appear innocent. 3rd party claims suck, and you will be hung at the drop of a hat. If there wasn't the guilty over your head we would leave you alone, but as it is there really isn't a terrible large point to keep you.

See that's what I mean, 3rd party might as well be mafia when the town find out about them.

jak111 wrote:

edocsil wrote:

jak111 wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:

new guy1 wrote:I know he came up guilty, but we do not know the cop's sanity at this point. Why kill someone when they can offer input and such when we have a whole day left? I understand we have three claims, but I feel uneasy with how you are wanting the day to end so quickly. What's the rush?

I can't see an easier way to test his sanity than lynch jak. Like edoc said at worst we lynch a third party at best we have a dead scumbag.

See this is why I don't like claiming 3rd party. Town isn't interested in keeping ya alive so it's like why bother siding with them.. yet being FORCED to side with them at that.

And that is exactly why you should A: Lie, B, work harder to appear innocent. 3rd party claims suck, and you will be hung at the drop of a hat. If there wasn't the guilty over your head we would leave you alone, but as it is there really isn't a terrible large point to keep you.

See that's what I mean, 3rd party might as well be mafia when the town find out about them.

Not really. It depends on the role. The guilty result is what is making it hard to believe you.

dazza2008 wrote:

jak111 wrote:

edocsil wrote:

jak111 wrote:

dazza2008 wrote:

new guy1 wrote:I know he came up guilty, but we do not know the cop's sanity at this point. Why kill someone when they can offer input and such when we have a whole day left? I understand we have three claims, but I feel uneasy with how you are wanting the day to end so quickly. What's the rush?

I can't see an easier way to test his sanity than lynch jak. Like edoc said at worst we lynch a third party at best we have a dead scumbag.

See this is why I don't like claiming 3rd party. Town isn't interested in keeping ya alive so it's like why bother siding with them.. yet being FORCED to side with them at that.

And that is exactly why you should A: Lie, B, work harder to appear innocent. 3rd party claims suck, and you will be hung at the drop of a hat. If there wasn't the guilty over your head we would leave you alone, but as it is there really isn't a terrible large point to keep you.

See that's what I mean, 3rd party might as well be mafia when the town find out about them.

Not really. It depends on the role. The guilty result is what is making it hard to believe you.

If I wanted to lie I would have claimed a town role and said that maybe I got bussed or he was paranoid.

I slept on it, and I will Vote jak, not cause your 3rd party, but cause you came up guilty and the logic edoc stated. Also, in response to jak, I dont have problems with 3rd party's, but I would rather lynch a 3rd party then a townie.

Not convinced. the strongest name claim in the game says somethings amiss with what he said...as odd as it was initially I can't argue with a Jetthro Gibbs claim.

I mean, obviously he should be in the game. Obviously if he says something is amiss, something is amiss. Even with that I really cant argue against the point edoc made that he came up guilty and at worst we lose a 3rd party.

strike wolf wrote:Not convinced. the strongest name claim in the game says somethings amiss with what he said...as odd as it was initially I can't argue with a Jetthro Gibbs claim.

What he said made zero sense to me honestly. Also, his use of the one shot in that matter was poor at best. If he wanted to repeat what he meant in a different way perhaps his intent would be clearer to me.

sorry guys ive gotten behind i will try to catch up towmorrow night when i have more time.

To echo earlier sentiments, I agree that third party can be tougher to play, especially with survivor WC's, but I'm voting you jak because of the guilty result and not because of the third party claim.

This is probably where knowing what "something is amiss" is would save me o.e.

even though i was the one to find out that something was amiss, I will not vote jak.

jak111 wrote: Jonty further tries to direct the town cop again. I have given that I am 3rd party, why waste his NA on me when he knows the result?

I made a mistake.

jak111 wrote:All three wished to out CMS's role.

That's not necessarily a bad thing