Conquer Club

derfderf34 wrote:

/ wrote:Normal scum hunting tactics may work, since there are already two potentially anti green power roles dead, it seems likely that the green leader could have taken part in the bandwagons.

two anti green powers dead?

Cultless maniac as I understand it, could be considered a role unfavorable to all three cults, so green would probably be against it as well.

What does stroop have to report and can kagetora be replaced or something?

derfderf34 wrote:stroop does your role stop only one cult from recruiting the people you target or all the cults?

It only stops one cult from recruiting the people I protect, but I know if someone from the other two cults attempts to recruit one of the people I protect.

Last night, I protected william18, pmchugh and sheepofdumb. One of them was targeted for recruitment by one of the other two cults.

Stroop wrote:

derfderf34 wrote:stroop does your role stop only one cult from recruiting the people you target or all the cults?

It only stops one cult from recruiting the people I protect, but I know if someone from the other two cults attempts to recruit one of the people I protect.

Last night, I protected william18, pmchugh and sheepofdumb. One of them was targeted for recruitment by one of the other two cults.

that didnt make complet sense to me with the wording do you mean that you know if somone that you are protecting is recruited by another cult?

Stroop wrote:

derfderf34 wrote:stroop does your role stop only one cult from recruiting the people you target or all the cults?

It only stops one cult from recruiting the people I protect, but I know if someone from the other two cults attempts to recruit one of the people I protect.

Last night, I protected william18, pmchugh and sheepofdumb. One of them was targeted for recruitment by one of the other two cults.

so now if ani was actually the same role as kage nad ace then we should have two more psychologists and two more individual roles (if everyone who has claimed is telling the truth)

You dont know which one was targeted?

derfderf34 wrote:that didnt make complet sense to me with the wording do you mean that you know if somone that you are protecting is recruited by another cult?

I protect against recruitment from one cult. If one of the other cults tries to recruit one of the people I protect, I get to know that (so even if it fails, due to protection and maybe other things).

derfderf34 wrote:You dont know which one was targeted?

I don't know which cult did it, or who they tried to recruit.

derfderf34 wrote:and captainwalrus you continued to say that cult shouldnt be lynched even after ani was proven not cult are their any pro-town reasons for this?

As I explained before, I didn't want to lynch a potentialy helpfull role even if they were cult.
I'm Thinking that we should target the red clan or blue first since the green seems like it will be hard. And since it is our last day as a majority we really need think a lot before lynching.

captainwalrus wrote:I'm Thinking that we should target the red clan or blue first since the green seems like it will be hard. And since it is our last day as a majority we really need think a lot before lynching.

Unless you have some crazy power role you are not telling us, then it is not possible for us to target a specific cult as we don't know who is in any cult and we don't which cult they are in either. Also how would targeting those cults be nay easier today? The cult investigators have not found any one to be guilty as being in those cults and the people they found not guilty certainly aren't cleared.

Stroop wrote:Last night, I protected william18, pmchugh and sheepofdumb. One of them was targeted for recruitment by one of the other two cults.

If everything stroop has said is true, then me might as well pick our target for lynch as there is a high chance that at least one of these three is cult. Sheep seems the most suspicious to me at this moment so vote sheepofdumb.

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Stroop wrote:

derfderf34 wrote:You dont know which one was targeted?

I don't know which cult did it, or who they tried to recruit.

Do you know if the recruiting was successful???

Thezzaruz wrote:

Stroop wrote:

derfderf34 wrote:You dont know which one was targeted?

I don't know which cult did it, or who they tried to recruit.

Do you know if the recruiting was successful???

No, but I think we should assume that it was.

I'd like to know what they have to say before I decide which of them to vote though.

Even so, we should prolly pick through the names of those who voted against both of the green power roles, shouldn't we?

spiesr wrote:

Stroop wrote:Last night, I protected william18, pmchugh and sheepofdumb. One of them was targeted for recruitment by one of the other two cults.

If everything stroop has said is true, then me might as well pick our target for lynch as there is a high chance that at least one of these three is cult. Sheep seems the most suspicious to me at this moment so vote sheepofdumb.

I'd like to remind you that if they were recruited last night then previous actions would be helpful as they just joined the cult. Although I realise this puts me as a suspect

However it is sensible to lynch on previous actions as well, that way if we are wrong then we have more chance of catching cult leaders.

Now to the bandwaggons:

Natewolfman wrote:kagetora - 8 votes (Stroop, LSU Tiger Josh, spiesr, spaceghst44, pmchugh, sheepofdumb, Thezzaruz, derfderf34)

Natewolfman wrote:space_ghst_44 - 11 votes (animorpherv1, Thezzaruz, captainwalrus, mpjh, pmchugh, kagetora, /, Haggis_McMutton, derfderf34, sheepofdumb, spaceghst44)

mpjh- before mod kill- 5 (stroop, thez, derf, speisr, sheepofdumb)

Natewolfman wrote:animorpherv1 - 11 votes (/, sheepofdumb, ace1217, Juan_Bottom, william18, Thezzaruz, spiesr, derfderf34, LSU Tiger Josh, Stroop, norsemsn1066)

BW count
william18- 1
pmchugh- 2
/- 2
ace1217- 1
LSU Tiger Josh -2
Iliad- 0
norsemsn1066- 1
Stroop- 1
sheepofdumb- 4
derfderf34- 4
nagerous- 0
farside22- 0
Haggis_McMutton- 1
spiesr- 3
Thezzaruz- 3
Juan_Bottom- 0
captainwalrus- 1
kagetora- 1

Based on this and the fact sheep was an attempted target I think its vote sheep.

p.s Keep in mind that these numbers are not infallible as they are linked to activity and also some scum prefer not to vote to stay out of the spotlight.

Ok, this is going to sound like crazy talk, but just hear me out on this.

Someone said (just before we lynched Space) that some townies are trying to get recruited by certain cults, or any cult-I can't specifically remember. Is this a condition to win that a cult leader wants to recruit the right townies? Maybe voting for ani was some kinda signal for the green cult leader to pick up on? Or maybe I'm getting way ahead of myself since this is my first public game?
I think that gives us something else to look at doesn't it?

Although I'm not caught up totally I'll say this.......the townies didn't really have much of a chance in this game but then again it was set up so that it would be three different cults in the end fighting for control.

It will come down to which cult has been more successful in recruiting members and avoiding lynches.

MHO

pmchugh wrote:
Based on this and the fact sheep was an attempted target I think its vote sheep.

p.s Keep in mind that these numbers are not infallible as they are linked to activity and also some scum prefer not to vote to stay out of the spotlight.

Keep in mind that is sheep did just get recruited then those band wagon votes would mean nothing, because they were made before he was recruited. My suspicion has been with derfderf for a while because he seems to stand out as more of a bandwagoner.
However, people realize that bandwagoning looks suspicious so the leaders won't always jump on the bandwagon.

captainwalrus wrote:

pmchugh wrote:
Based on this and the fact sheep was an attempted target I think its vote sheep.

p.s Keep in mind that these numbers are not infallible as they are linked to activity and also some scum prefer not to vote to stay out of the spotlight.

Keep in mind that is sheep did just get recruited then those band wagon votes would mean nothing, because they were made before he was recruited. My suspicion has been with derfderf for a while because he seems to stand out as more of a bandwagoner.

Sheep's votes could mean that he was already cult before this night. The fact that he's one of the three that might have been recruited tonight makes it more likely that he's cult now if he wasn't before. In addition, if he comes up a cult leader or town, we know that he wasn't the one that was recruited and we can narrow it down to will and pmc.

derfderf stands out more than sheep on the votes alone, but factoring in what we know of tonight, sheep is a better choice.

Still want to hear from sheep and will before I vote though.

If he was the one that was recruted last night though, It means that he A could not be the leader and B his bandwagon votes were before he was cult. Also, if he was not recruted last night, that doesn't clear him.

Ok, so what you guys are saying is that we have nothing, had nothing, and won't get anything. It's all blind lynches until the end. Awesomeness.

captainwalrus wrote:If he was the one that was recruted last night though, It means that he A could not be the leader and B his bandwagon votes were before he was cult. Also, if he was not recruted last night, that doesn't clear him.

By lynching someone who was scummy before last night and someone who could have been recruited last night you are covering two bases with one lynch.

Juan_Bottom wrote:Ok, so what you guys are saying is that we have nothing, had nothing, and won't get anything. It's all blind lynches until the end. Awesomeness.

We can never really be sure of a lynch in any game but we can greatly increase our chances by using power roles, judging people's behaviour and forcing them to claim (although this is reduced in usefulness in a partially vanilla game).

Juan_Bottom wrote:Even so, we should prolly pick through the names of those who voted against both of the green power roles, shouldn't we?

The way you keep talking like mpjh was specifically against green cult makes me think that you are on that cult because of how much tohught you put in that cults direction fos Juan_Bottom

pmchugh wrote:I'd like to remind you that if they were recruited last night then previous actions would be helpful as they just joined the cult. Although I realise this puts me as a suspect

Yeah, I realized that a while after I posted...

derfderf34 wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:Even so, we should prolly pick through the names of those who voted against both of the green power roles, shouldn't we?

The way you keep talking like mpjh was specifically against green cult makes me think that you are on that cult because of how much tohught you put in that cults direction fos Juan_Bottom

That doesn't exactly make sense there derf...

[quote=pmchugh]Lynches give us information, we find out the lynched players role so we can see who supported their lynch, who opposed it and who was just bandwaggoning. After a few lynches patterns emerge and then we have good evidence as to who is scum.[/quote]

[quote=pmchugh]a good bandwaggon is always fun.[/quote]

Pmc is painting himself as a lynch happy bandwagoner. When there's a 33% chance of him being cult he's immediately jumps on the sheep train. This is one of his before-mentioned patterns. He's aggressive and is pressing on me now.

[quote=pmchugh]I'd like to remind you that if they were recruited last night then previous actions would be helpful as they just joined the cult. Although I realise this puts me as a suspect[/quote]

So your saying that a new cult members history as a town would be helpful to convict him? I don't quite understand what you're saying here.

[quote=pmchugh]soon me and ani will be the most experienced players here[/quote]

That's a scary thought

u certainly fail at quoting. With that said though, I agree should just do random lynches until a powerrole has identified for us a target to take on.

derfderf34 wrote:The way you keep talking like mpjh was specifically against green cult makes me think that you are on that cult because of how much tohught you put in that cults direction fos Juan_Bottom

Ok, what?

spiesr wrote:That doesn't exactly make sense there derf...

I know, right?

vote derfderf34 for being against lynching cult? Although I have no idea what the crap he just tried to say, I'm pretty sure he was saying that I must be green cult because I had an idea on how to help catch red and blue cult?