Game of Thrones Mafia 9/24 Night 6: End Game Vote 4 MVP

[pretender77]

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.

[pancakemix]

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.
I asked someone how much experience zivel had and I believe 5 games of experience was the reply. So, he knows what he's doing for the most part.
Now, on to his claim, that was the perfect claim. too PERFECT. I don't buy it at all so that's why I will be voting him

I still hold that it's spot on. "Immune to checks" is the weird bit, though the term "check" seems to have a broad definition.

Mod, please define the term "check" as it applies to game-related matters (such as the Stannis Baratheon role description)

[jak111]

Spoiler

Towns:

Braavos
Zivel (Arya Stark, can kill once per cycle if knows character and username)
Jak111
kgb007
Army of God

Kings Landing
Iron Butterfly (Brienne Tarth, self sacrifice bodyguard)
HotShot (Stannis Baratheon, Alignment Match Cop)

The Dread Fort
crasp (Petyr Baelish, knows where the throne is)
firth4eva (Gregor Clegane, bulletproof)
Betiko (tree stump?)
mtamburini (TheonGreyjoy, busdriver)

Storms End
Jonty (Margaery Tyrell, Lover/Watcher of sorts?)

Unknown
The rest of you 13 hobos and that bloody throne.

Fine Print: if it is in brackets then I hold no responsibility if its wrong

(Updated Zivel's list with the two dead).

No one alive is known in King's Landing and Storms End.

If we were to assume at least 2 anti-town per city (people are right, this might not be likely, just a base to work off of). At the current moment 4 people are alive in King's Landing, with 2 of them being anti-town. 5 Alive in Storm's End with 2 being anti-town. 4 alive in Dread Fort with 1 being anti-town and 6 alive in Braavos with 2 being anti-town.

(If there's a cult, they could easily upset that balance but the deaths seem to be the ONLY things shown in scenes).

Right now the best chance is to look at King's Landing. With 4 alive left and 0 anti-town killed from there, chances are high of killing off at least one anti-town.

The question is, would the last 1-2 townies left in there be willing to out the potential mafia. Because if not and they die today/tonight then no one could confirm who was in that city as potential anti-town.

[StorrZerg]

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.
I asked someone how much experience zivel had and I believe 5 games of experience was the reply. So, he knows what he's doing for the most part.
Now, on to his claim, that was the perfect claim. too PERFECT. I don't buy it at all so that's why I will be voting him

I still hold that it's spot on. "Immune to checks" is the weird bit, though the term "check" seems to have a broad definition.

Mod, please define the term "check" as it applies to game-related matters (such as the Stannis Baratheon role description)

check = investigate.

[StorrZerg]

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.

pretender77 has been warned for this post

The post has been edited and should read

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.
I asked someone how much experience zivel had and I believe 5 games of experience was the reply. So, he knows what he's doing for the most part.
Now, on to his claim, that was the perfect claim. too PERFECT. I don't buy it at all so that's why I will be voting him

Reminder, you may not edit your posts. You may not delete your posts. There will be no more warnings from now on out.

[betiko]

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.

pretender77 has been warned for this post

The post has been edited and should read

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.
I asked someone how much experience zivel had and I believe 5 games of experience was the reply. So, he knows what he's doing for the most part.
Now, on to his claim, that was the perfect claim. too PERFECT. I don't buy it at all so that's why I will be voting him

Reminder, you may not edit your posts. You may not delete your posts. There will be no more warnings from now on out.

This doesn t make any sense. It doesn t say below pretender s post that it has been edited yet pcm quoted the full message. If you quote a post that is edited before you have the time to post the quote i guess the last message isn t noted as edited then?

[betiko]

I would like people who have played previously with perchy (mostly pretender and epitaph i guess) to give me a read on him and if there is something unusual about his posts, thanks!

[Zivel]

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.

pretender77 has been warned for this post

The post has been edited and should read

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.
I asked someone how much experience zivel had and I believe 5 games of experience was the reply. So, he knows what he's doing for the most part.
Now, on to his claim, that was the perfect claim. too PERFECT. I don't buy it at all so that's why I will be voting him

Reminder, you may not edit your posts. You may not delete your posts. There will be no more warnings from now on out.

Hmmmm Common mate, its a basic bloody rule here.

Firstly, who did you ask? And where is that information? Do they know I play on mafiascum to?

Secondly, I know what I am doing for the most part, but it appears you do not....

Third, give me your case on me and we will talk.

[crasp]

same rump still sits on the throne. not sure if that part of hot shots role means he could claim the throne or how.

[Zivel]

Betiko, going to put a vote on you to see what you are today.

[Army of GOD]

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.

pretender77 has been warned for this post

The post has been edited and should read

what a freaking mess. I'd like to start this day off how it should be started.
I don't know about all of yall but zivel needs to be revisted.
I asked someone how much experience zivel had and I believe 5 games of experience was the reply. So, he knows what he's doing for the most part.
Now, on to his claim, that was the perfect claim. too PERFECT. I don't buy it at all so that's why I will be voting him

Reminder, you may not edit your posts. You may not delete your posts. There will be no more warnings from now on out.

This doesn t make any sense. It doesn t say below pretender s post that it has been edited yet pcm quoted the full message. If you quote a post that is edited before you have the time to post the quote i guess the last message isn t noted as edited then?

If he edits it before someone else makes a new post, it doesn't say that it was edited.

[Army of GOD]

Also the night double kill makes me think that the Hound might be responsible, though that's just a total shot in the dark.

[betiko]

Betiko, going to put a vote on you to see what you are today.

To be clear; this is not an on/off button, but you are welcome to try every single day if it amuses you.

[Zivel]

Betiko, going to put a vote on you to see what you are today.

To be clear; this is not an on/off button, but you are welcome to try every single day if it amuses you.

Oh did we already know that?

[Army of GOD]

Question: why doesn't the mafia kill betiko if he's town? They should pretty much know he's unlynchable by now.

Which obviously leads me to believe that he's scum...not that we can do anything about it...

[betiko]

Question: why doesn't the mafia kill betiko if he's town? They should pretty much know he's unlynchable by now.

Which obviously leads me to believe that he's scum...not that we can do anything about it...

Don t be jealous. That s the second game straight I m unlynchable and I got to say it s pretty funny. Neener neener!

[Army of GOD]

##vote betiko

WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP

[betiko]

Betiko, going to put a vote on you to see what you are today.

To be clear; this is not an on/off button, but you are welcome to try every single day if it amuses you.

Oh did we already know that?

Maybe something/someone can disable it, who knows?

[pancakemix]

Seems I was quick on the draw for pretender's post. Now we're left to wonder why pretender would deem that portion of his post worth removing. Care to fill us in?

Betiko, going to put a vote on you to see what you are today.

To be clear; this is not an on/off button, but you are welcome to try every single day if it amuses you.

Oh did we already know that?

If he's a tree stump in the traditional sense, then at least some of the veterans knew that.

Also the night double kill makes me think that the Hound might be responsible, though that's just a total shot in the dark.

What makes you think that, if I may ask?

check = investigate.

Would that term cover all types of investigations (such as tracks)?

[kgb007]

// You're right, like I said, I had a bit of a tirade. Sometimes you guys have to read between the lines. Yes, I was roleblocked! I am assuming I was roleblocked by mafia since it was a night action. Yes, I have serious suspicions on 3 people. I will give you more in 24 hours, please be patient. In the meantime, I would think we should continue to put pressure on Dreddfot since that is the location we know the most about.

// No it wasn't. I suspect the mafia know exactly who I am, and now know I'm harmless, they won't waste a roleblock again. They also may be trying to manipulate me. If I'm right, then I would suspect that none of them will be voting for me anytime soon. Town is not going to vote for me either. That means that I will have to be forthright and give the town some concrete information to go on and make sure I'm right (well at least 80% right if I apply the 80/20 rule). And not do the tirade thing is important!

7. I don;t want to sidetrack anyone, but I think we need to also keep sight of towns, objects, how the QT is working, etc... For example:
Did you all know that there are more than just the "location" QTs? Is everyone in a QT?
We know there is a thrown, but I haven't seen it saying how you de-throne someone!
What about visiting other towns. Someone must have the ability to spy on other towns. Who? How?? When???

voting Charm until she finishes the rest of her thought.

roleblocker is more common town role. not saying you were roleblocked N1 and not N2 but if true could explain the two kills.

FP x3

[Zivel]

// You're right, like I said, I had a bit of a tirade. Sometimes you guys have to read between the lines. Yes, I was roleblocked! I am assuming I was roleblocked by mafia since it was a night action. Yes, I have serious suspicions on 3 people. I will give you more in 24 hours, please be patient. In the meantime, I would think we should continue to put pressure on Dreddfot since that is the location we know the most about.

// No it wasn't. I suspect the mafia know exactly who I am, and now know I'm harmless, they won't waste a roleblock again. They also may be trying to manipulate me. If I'm right, then I would suspect that none of them will be voting for me anytime soon. Town is not going to vote for me either. That means that I will have to be forthright and give the town some concrete information to go on and make sure I'm right (well at least 80% right if I apply the 80/20 rule). And not do the tirade thing is important!

7. I don;t want to sidetrack anyone, but I think we need to also keep sight of towns, objects, how the QT is working, etc... For example:
Did you all know that there are more than just the "location" QTs? Is everyone in a QT?
We know there is a thrown, but I haven't seen it saying how you de-throne someone!
What about visiting other towns. Someone must have the ability to spy on other towns. Who? How?? When???

voting Charm until she finishes the rest of her thought.

roleblocker is more common town role. not saying you were roleblocked N1 and not N2 but if true could explain the two kills.

FP x3

Agree, charm has a lot of explaining to do:

1. Confirm that you don't know who roleblocked you and assuming it was mafia was incorrect?
2. You mention that there are more QT's than just the cities? Now we know there is a mafia QT? Explain how you knew there were more QT's than just the cities please.
3. You said you were onto a couple of people, explain please? I am reading between the lines here but is your ability a oneshot use? have you used it? and did this indicate you know something? You dont have to explain all of these if you think it will compromise you but if you do know something that might help, maybe now would be a good time
4. Why does thinking a scum is a scum clear you? I thought Mtam was scum and so did the 9 people who voted for him, do we clear them now to? You appear to be trying very hard for us to confirm you as town.

Vote Charm till we get some answers, especially the QT information.....

[MudPuppy]

Don t be jealous. That s the second game straight I m unlynchable and I got to say it s pretty funny. Neener neener!

[carves "MP was here" in weirwood tree]

Guessing not, but at the risk of another small spoiler, any chance weirwoods come to life at any point in the books/series???

[charm]

// You're right, like I said, I had a bit of a tirade. Sometimes you guys have to read between the lines. Yes, I was roleblocked! I am assuming I was roleblocked by mafia since it was a night action. Yes, I have serious suspicions on 3 people. I will give you more in 24 hours, please be patient. In the meantime, I would think we should continue to put pressure on Dreddfot since that is the location we know the most about.

// No it wasn't. I suspect the mafia know exactly who I am, and now know I'm harmless, they won't waste a roleblock again. They also may be trying to manipulate me. If I'm right, then I would suspect that none of them will be voting for me anytime soon. Town is not going to vote for me either. That means that I will have to be forthright and give the town some concrete information to go on and make sure I'm right (well at least 80% right if I apply the 80/20 rule). And not do the tirade thing is important!

7. I don;t want to sidetrack anyone, but I think we need to also keep sight of towns, objects, how the QT is working, etc... For example:
Did you all know that there are more than just the "location" QTs? Is everyone in a QT?
We know there is a thrown, but I haven't seen it saying how you de-throne someone!
What about visiting other towns. Someone must have the ability to spy on other towns. Who? How?? When???

voting Charm until she finishes the rest of her thought.

roleblocker is more common town role. not saying you were roleblocked N1 and not N2 but if true could explain the two kills.

Oh for Pete's sake! I thought I was done with my thoughts, maybe I'm just a naive dingy blonde that believes in unicorns, rainbows and four lead clovers! I guess saying I know the identity of mafia and surviving the night wasn't my best move, but I'm still alive. I'm just trying to have fun. You guys get way to serious. Well, as you get to know me you will find out that I can be quite the joker.

Anyhoo, some of you need to have a Duh moment on yourself! I knew MTam was mafia by the way he was playing - which quite a few of you did too. Most of you should know there are more than just the location QTs.

Did I answer your questions now? If not, then be stupid and vote me out - you will find out I'm town! And then I'll post in giant pink letters DUH!

[jak111]

then be stupid and vote me out - you will find out I'm town!

And when they don't and you flip mafia for the ENDGAME I will say in huge purple letters "HERP DERP!"

Vote Charm. Trying too much to say she's town with very LITTLE credible info.

[Epitaph1]

I applaud the pressure on charm, but fair warning: she is oblivious to any requests to explain her information or who she is onto . . .I've asked a couple of times. She has supposedly had information leading to suspects for the past half of a week now, but the most we get from her is that there is still a baddy at the Dreadfort.

Re pershy: pershy is normally a really active player in our forum games. He used to be super active when we first started. However, he's cooled his jets over the past half year or so because he would always attract a lot of attention, especially early in the game, get pressured and, often, lynched. I can't tell if he's biding his time in this game or trying to maintain a low profile. If it helps, he's about this active in our current TNC mafia game as well--mb a tiny bit more because it's less people and he knows them better.

Pretender, do you have anything to add to that? Btw, editing a post, dude? Whatsamaddawithyou?

Re night scene: I don't think the scene necessarily indicated white walkers. If memory serves, I don't remember them killing anyone through/with/by fog (If I'm mistaken, correct me in a spoiler for Mud Puppy's sake). Theon flipped mafia. I think it would be unlikely that the mafia are Theon, nameless white walker, and whoever else. Everyone else seems to have an actual character from the story, so i would think the mafia are all characters that we would recognize and the white walkers would be a separate group/Sk.

Spoiler

Unless the assailant on N1 was Cold Hands, who could be part of the mafia then.

That said, two kills from one assailant is odd but not unimaginable. If IB was killed by a white walker, and the white walkers are separate from the mafia, the mafia might have gotten desperate and used an extra kill they had? I can't picture the mafia getting 2 NKs each night but I can see them getting an extra kill or two to use in addition to their usual NK. It could be early desperation after they lost their BD and possibly not gotten their NK on N1.

Re: town breakdown. I'm very reluctant to assume any particular distribution of non-town in any one location. 1 Mafia per location? Probably. 1 third party per location? Hard to say. I think the only way we will really be able to determine the distribution is later in the game when we've had 2 locations thoroughly depleted or mb totally killed off.

fp'd



I thought you said you had information and leads on certain individuals, charm?!?! Now you said you knew it was mtam based on his play?!?

fp'd by jak