Conquer Club

/ wrote:What? That's absurd, even if Kalish killed Flores as you say, he was killed himself, leading us to most likely assume that the the second (or third or whatever) killer was not aligned with him, giving a decent chance it was town, so you just want to out everyone all the sudden when nothing is overtly suspicious?
That's way too scummy, for this point in the game, I practically think you're a jester already at this point!
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animorpherv1 wrote:head.... ow.

kwanton wrote:

animorpherv1 wrote:so, we have any leads at all?

This is usually the point where someone looks back at kalish's posts to see if there was anything fishy.

The1exile wrote:Oh, also, if there are two scum groups that could explain the infiltrator bit.

suggs wrote:lynch Skoffin

kalishnikov wrote:
Exactly, just because no one dies on a Day 1 does not mean that it was a waste of a day. In some games a Day 1 lynch is absolutely imparative but those games tend to be slow-movers with not many people joining the discussion. In this particular game we've had many good, active discussions and a lot of info has come out and we have many leads to pursue in the future so I'd much rather see a no lynch today then a poor lynch not based on game mechanics but rather based on a specific player's level of frustration.

When I was a 'noob' I always thought that a lynch every day was the way to go but as time went on its importance gets downplayed when a decent amount of info has been put out and sometimes a lynch benefits the scum more then the town. Not to mention that our vig(s) probably won't kill tonight (unless they're dumb and/or think that they are smart) but the scum definitly will (I'll bet there's at least 2 scum groups + an SK or 2, knowing Skoffin and the game size) so we're already looking at anywhere between 2 and 6 deaths tonight, I think the last thing we need to do is make a poor lynch to make the scum's job easier.

If you guys wanna try to lynch scum, I'm down, but I'm not voting for someone I'm 90% sure isn't scum on this Day.

DRoZ wrote:

kalishnikov wrote:
Exactly, just because no one dies on a Day 1 does not mean that it was a waste of a day. In some games a Day 1 lynch is absolutely imparative but those games tend to be slow-movers with not many people joining the discussion. In this particular game we've had many good, active discussions and a lot of info has come out and we have many leads to pursue in the future so I'd much rather see a no lynch today then a poor lynch not based on game mechanics but rather based on a specific player's level of frustration.

When I was a 'noob' I always thought that a lynch every day was the way to go but as time went on its importance gets downplayed when a decent amount of info has been put out and sometimes a lynch benefits the scum more then the town. Not to mention that our vig(s) probably won't kill tonight (unless they're dumb and/or think that they are smart) but the scum definitly will (I'll bet there's at least 2 scum groups + an SK or 2, knowing Skoffin and the game size) so we're already looking at anywhere between 2 and 6 deaths tonight, I think the last thing we need to do is make a poor lynch to make the scum's job easier.

If you guys wanna try to lynch scum, I'm down, but I'm not voting for someone I'm 90% sure isn't scum on this Day.

This post has some information in it...

He is pushing for a no lynch. Now in my opinion this could mean one of two things, either he was defending no lynch on dito or exile (as both were up for the gallows), or he was just looking for a no lynch, which btw never made much sense to me, in most games the first to get lynched are normally town who just made a silly mistake so I never saw much in the no lynch helps scum, sure they get to make the first kill, but wouldn't it also be helpful to scum to have one of us die by lynch as well.

It also seems that if our vig did indeed kill kalish, then he or she would be a smart player, because they picked up on a scum trait that no one else seemed to find scummy. Even after the berating of a supposed vig. So that bodes well for us.

He also says that bit about 2 scum groups, so maybe he knew something that we don't.

Fircoal wrote:

F1fth wrote:

kalishnikov wrote:That's a great sig quote ga... No animot, pancake has never played mafia before. Ever.



And good job guys, remember that a rushed lynched with little thought can be the scum's biggest help. We had a productive day 1 and go many leads, even with out a lynch is was definitly a good day and we've got many things to follow up with. Now all we've gotta do is see who makes it till the next day... Good luck fellas and ladies, I have a feeling we're gonna need it (the last Skof game many, many people died night 1 if I remember properly).

Given the quote above, I'd say that Kalish was rather glad that Dito ended up not getting lynched. It could be that he was glad no one got lynched, but I'm not sure. Anyway, what I am pretty sure about was that T1000 was from Terminator 2: Judgment Day. He was the liquid metal guy and the main baddie trying to kill John Conner if I remember correctly.

Are you proposing that Kalish and Dito are on the same team? Kalish is good, I don't think he'd tie himself to Dito to make it look like that if Dito was scum he was too. I personally thought Kalsih was town, and I was going to follow him. Given that I think it's an SK kill rather than a vig kill or any of the other options. Also Fos: F1fth for that silly idea.

Fircoal wrote:
As I said to F1fth, I think Kalish is to smart to leave ties to Dito and Exile in case either one of them died. I think he went for in his mind the most pro-town decision. And it worked. I highly don't think a vig killed Kalish.

william18 wrote:

The1exile wrote:Oh, also, if there are two scum groups that could explain the infiltrator bit.

What is an inflitrator?

The1exile wrote:

william18 wrote:

The1exile wrote:Oh, also, if there are two scum groups that could explain the infiltrator bit.

What is an inflitrator?

I don't know, but I suspect similar to spy.

william18 wrote:

The1exile wrote:

william18 wrote:

The1exile wrote:Oh, also, if there are two scum groups that could explain the infiltrator bit.

What is an inflitrator?

I don't know, but I suspect similar to spy.

What's a spy?

The Weird One wrote:

william18 wrote:

The1exile wrote:

william18 wrote:

The1exile wrote:Oh, also, if there are two scum groups that could explain the infiltrator bit.

What is an inflitrator?

I don't know, but I suspect similar to spy.

What's a spy?

The person on the other side of your window, recording everything you're saying and typing.

DRoZ wrote:

Fircoal wrote:
As I said to F1fth, I think Kalish is to smart to leave ties to Dito and Exile in case either one of them died. I think he went for in his mind the most pro-town decision. And it worked. I highly don't think a vig killed Kalish.

Then who do you think killed him?

I also would assume that kalish wouldn't want to be tied to either of them, but by pushing for a no lynch is generally considered a scum move, so he would have to be expecting a backlash of some sort. It just seems that he was putting himself too far out there as a scum. I think he may have had a bigger reason for his defense of those two, but I can't figure out what that may be. All I can think of is that one of them may have a scum power role, but that explanation still seems iffy.

animorpherv1 wrote:But on the other hand, voting no lynch can be presented as scummy, so it all comes down to what they (SK, vig OR mafia) thought.