Conquer Club

I think the idea Devon is; if you don't post in 72 hours you get taken down to the elves cellar and get tickled to death. The more you post the more you learn, this is only 2nd game so just do your best....or is this just the old sad tale ploy...as you loosen the roof tiles for when Loose Canon walks under the archway, just saying like

Just take me for instance, I might have spent the night with a hooker who may or may not have an adams apple, I certainly didn't sign up for that one!

Don't know if this will be good news or bad halrob.

Generally speaking you can't use same actions on same targets 2 nights running.

Best check with Charle (privately) though if you or anyone else wants to though.

Whether or not you can use same action on same target consequtive nights is up to the mod. I think my experience is half and half. PM the mod.

@Loose, why don't you vote for me if you think I'm guilty?

Ragian wrote:Whether or not you can use same action on same target consequtive nights is up to the mod. I think my experience is half and half. PM the mod.

If the role description you received at the start of the game mentions that you cannot action same target consequtive nights, then you cannot. If it doesn't then you can.

Vote Count:

Kingm (3) - Sonic, Loose, Devante
Ragian (1) - hjelp

With 11 Alive - 6 Needed For A Lynch

Ragian wrote:Whether or not you can use same action on same target consequtive nights is up to the mod. I think my experience is half and half. PM the mod.

@Loose, why don't you vote for me if you think I'm guilty?

Which is another way of asking me why I think or thought you were guilty.

I've thought strongly you were guilty in the past when you were town - Ive suspected ulterior motives in the past when there were none.
Later, you've flown completely under my radar in the past when you were mafia.
Wondering whether Extreme had a mafia tell/inclination on you and thinking you were playing the same as when you've flown under my radar, and becoming convinced that Extreme was about to out you as a player who visited Halrob, had switched me from going to bed at night thinking I'm probably not going to follow Extremes lead on this to waking up thinking actually I think I might - but lets see how this develops.
More or less I don't know if I think you are guilty or not Rag.

Who do you think is guilty?

Ragian wrote:Whether or not you can use same action on same target consequtive nights is up to the mod. I think my experience is half and half. PM the mod.

@Loose, why don't you vote for me if you think I'm guilty?

That is not his tactic today it seems. Today Loose just keeps laying out walls of text that sound logical and town helpful but they never actually commit to a firm stance. It’s always “Ragian might be this… EW might be that…SoNic might be so...even his buddy Max might be scum but also maybye not.. i went to bed last night thinking Rag was innocent, then woke up this morning thinking Rag was guilty.. Too funny hedging around. That style doesn’t solve the game—it just keeps everyone second-guessing and maintains paranoia..

And Loose always manages to leave himself a nice escape hatch in every read too. Even the vote on kingm came with such apologies. Not the Loose Canon i know when town id say.

Look, if Loose want to reassess me for making this comment fine—I’ll take the heat. But I don’t see how we benefit with walls of “maybe this, maybe that” forever this day. Loose whole D2 style so far is to muddy the waters a bit and splishsplash around. Very good to do on D1 to get traction going but not on a critical D2 game day where focus and unity is needed and were we need to shift to a higher gear on commitment and vote firmness when checking things out, unless ofcourse you wanna seed doubt and fracture town votes with halfbaken vote pies?

Loose: get back in line and focus.

Thats a fair tackle Sonic.

Feel like Loose is being helpful in a way that is good for town for what it's worth.

Also, because not everyone may have gotten it but I'm sure at least one scum has gotten it: Yes, I did track Sonic to Halrob. And at the moment I think Sonic is town for it.

To any serial killers:

If next night 2 out of Sonic/Halrob/Me die, you likely lose. We'll be at 9 maximum, maybe less if we manage to lynch someone. With 3 mafia, you really need to start targeting potential mafia slots with your kills. Killing near-confirmed-towns is a job for the mafia, especially because the Cop will probably see you as "not aligned with the mafia" because you are not aligned with the mafia making you safe from investigations. And Mafia kill or roleblock me most likely.

You want mafia to be alive but not too strong, and most of all you want to know who the mafia are. Eliminating potential mafia is thus better for you than elimination known town.

OK I found some time to skim again through things from begining.
Here What I found

DirtyDishSoap wrote:I'll join. Not sure how active i can be given work, but I'll try.

Here Dirty Guy saying he is joining but not sure about how active he can be indicationg he has work in real life.
But then even at times he got to post some thing he trolls or trash talks or dirty jokes.
And then here.

DirtyDishSoap wrote:Unvote.

I'd like a no lynch but given that's been roughly a year since i played, still getting a feel for things, so rather put my two cents in since it feels like I'm the only joke post.

Of what i skimmed, sorry, booze, but Max isn't going to contribute, sadly, Loose is still a Goose but i agree with the shakedown, and I'd be more wary of the people targeting Loose and Rag.

Of what i mentioned, this is pretty normal and I'd be hard pressed to believe these players are currently scum d1. Abnormals and afks for some reason or another tend to be scum. I know people don't like targeting others for player activity, but scum skimming is a thing. You can't really bring that up D1 for how early it is and how lax about that rule.

All in all, I'd rather skip this day, no lynch, and figure it out from there.

Dirty is indicating he like to skip D-1 and quickly go to D-2.
Note: this is at a point where D-1 is in hot and players are very actively discussing things.
This is contradicting with what he earler said.
If one got work & having trouble of finding time to catch up thing then he/she should naturally should like to get as much as time possible
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Not a quick finish of D-1.
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I Assume Kingm was given the same role as Dirty and voting Kingm turned Dirty.
I am expecting charles to correct us if in case charles provide a completely fresh role to Kingm
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Vote Kingm

Extreme Ways wrote:To any serial killers:

If next night 2 out of Sonic/Halrob/Me die, you likely lose. We'll be at 9 maximum, maybe less if we manage to lynch someone. With 3 mafia, you really need to start targeting potential mafia slots with your kills. Killing near-confirmed-towns is a job for the mafia, especially because the Cop will probably see you as "not aligned with the mafia" because you are not aligned with the mafia making you safe from investigations. And Mafia kill or roleblock me most likely.

You want mafia to be alive but not too strong, and most of all you want to know who the mafia are. Eliminating potential mafia is thus better for you than elimination known town.

@EW
Then of course, you place your vote during D2 eagerly, if you're a townie.
If you die during N2 then it would be nice to have your vote now D2. To decimate mafia members.

If you're a mafia or associated then you're not that eager.

You now have kill-"target" Son!c for the mafia. If it's true what you claim.

Extreme Ways wrote:Feel like Loose is being helpful in a way that is good for town for what it's worth.

Also, because not everyone may have gotten it but I'm sure at least one scum has gotten it: Yes, I did track Sonic to Halrob. And at the moment I think Sonic is town for it.

hjelp wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:To any serial killers:

If next night 2 out of Sonic/Halrob/Me die, you likely lose. We'll be at 9 maximum, maybe less if we manage to lynch someone. With 3 mafia, you really need to start targeting potential mafia slots with your kills. Killing near-confirmed-towns is a job for the mafia, especially because the Cop will probably see you as "not aligned with the mafia" because you are not aligned with the mafia making you safe from investigations. And Mafia kill or roleblock me most likely.

You want mafia to be alive but not too strong, and most of all you want to know who the mafia are. Eliminating potential mafia is thus better for you than elimination known town.

@EW
Then of course, you place your vote during D2 eagerly, if you're a townie.
If you die during N2 then it would be nice to have your vote now D2. To decimate mafia members.

If you're a mafia or associated then you're not that eager.

You now have kill-"target" Son!c for the mafia. If it's true what you claim.

Extreme Ways wrote:Feel like Loose is being helpful in a way that is good for town for what it's worth.

Also, because not everyone may have gotten it but I'm sure at least one scum has gotten it: Yes, I did track Sonic to Halrob. And at the moment I think Sonic is town for it.

You are right, but i am of the opinion that i had done that as soon as i said that I had info that either sonic or Rag visited someone.

Sonic is also just townies and I was dying regardless. If doc dies, it means either me or Halrob for sure get another check off. Most likely (if roleblock is nonconsecutive) they leave sonic alive but I shall not completely lay out scum strategy.

Extreme Ways wrote:Feel like Loose is being helpful in a way that is good for town for what it's worth.

Also, because not everyone may have gotten it but I'm sure at least one scum has gotten it: Yes, I did track Sonic to Halrob. And at the moment I think Sonic is town for it.

Does this mean you are 100% sure that Sonic visited Halrob ?
or is it 50/50 that either Ragian or Sonic visited Halrob.

chanakam2020 wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:Feel like Loose is being helpful in a way that is good for town for what it's worth.

Also, because not everyone may have gotten it but I'm sure at least one scum has gotten it: Yes, I did track Sonic to Halrob. And at the moment I think Sonic is town for it.

Does this mean you are 100% sure that Sonic visited Halrob ?
or is it 50/50 that either Ragian or Sonic visited Halrob.

100% Sonic. My night action response doesn't even mention whom my target visited, but whom Sonic visited. So no redirector in play.

So if anyone claims that Sonic must be a roleblocker for some reason, they should come forward.

vote ragian

Ragian/Kingma is where i want to be looking atm but im not aware of the vote count and posting on mobile so voting ragian.

I feel like Ragian would interact very differently with someone who for all intents and purposes should be treated under the assumption that they are town. Instead Rag has been coy and wanting me to out my info first, and even then didn't follow up on me or work with me.

Small town list:
Sonic
Halrob
Loose
Chan
Hjelp

I hope there's a maximum (not a minimum) of 1 in there

Extreme Ways wrote:100% Sonic. My night action response doesn't even mention whom my target visited, but whom Sonic visited. So no redirector in play.

Sonic do you confirm what EW telling ?
And if what EW telling is true can you tell what you did at night while we sleep ?

had to unvote quickly I need to process what has gone on, I might revote him;

Extreme, haven't you ostensibly outed both yourself and Sonic as town Power Roles - and for what return - other than that you may have firmed up your suspicion of Rag?
Fact of the matter is a Roleblocker (maybe hooker) and a Doctor were both potential visitors to a potential but unproven town Halrob N1.
And why track Sonic N1 rather than Rag if you thought D1 Rag was mafia?

Sonic - how do you feel about this?

Ragian - how do you feel about this?

I am very very uncomfortable.
I need you guys to argue this out.

Loose Canon wrote:had to unvote quickly I need to process what has gone on, I might revote him;

Extreme, haven't you ostensibly outed both yourself and Sonic as town Power Roles - and for what return - other than that you may have firmed up your suspicion of Rag?
Fact of the matter is a Roleblocker (maybe hooker) and a Doctor were both potential visitors to a potential but unproven town Halrob N1.
And why track Sonic N1 rather than Rag if you thought D1 Rag was mafia?

Sonic - how do you feel about this?

Ragian - how do you feel about this?

I am very very uncomfortable.
I need you guys to argue this out.

I thought Rag was town. I also thought Sonic was townish but after a recent game (offsite) where I tracked someone in my scumlist to nowhere - I decided to instead track people I'm not too sure are town.

I didnt know whether Sonic was town or mafia, just that he visited. I played a bit by involving Ragian since they would both be reasonable targets to see if one would bite. Sonic seemed to understand that I tracked him and pressured Ragian, and defended me in thread. Rag didn't play along and didn't say anything about any of their night actions.

By that time, I had already said that I tracked one of them to Halrob and Rag wasn't going to respond to me unless I said something first, so I just claimed it. It's not mechanically confirmed that Sonic is town, just that he is not the serial killer and imo unlikely mafia. If mafia, he's a roleblocker.

I also hard claimed my result because if there's scum in kingm or ragian, they would have noticed it for sure. Any afk scum would learn this from their teammates, but town does not have the luxury.

EBWOP: I thought Rag was town Day 1

Extreme Ways wrote:I also hard claimed my result because if there's scum in kingm or ragian, they would have noticed it for sure. Any afk scum would learn this from their teammates, but town does not have the luxury.

Did not get the meaning of this.
Can you eleborate little ?
What would have kingm or ragian know ?
afk scum means ?

chanakam2020 wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:I also hard claimed my result because if there's scum in kingm or ragian, they would have noticed it for sure. Any afk scum would learn this from their teammates, but town does not have the luxury.

Did not get the meaning of this.
Can you eleborate little ?
What would have kingm or ragian know ?
afk scum means ?

We have 11 players left alive, of which most likely 8 are town.

If I spot something, I can not DM you saying "oh btw, EW claimed to be a Tracker and that Sonic visited Halrob". You have to read it for yourself. Scum however, can communicate privately out of thread. So of those that are less active, they will still know that I claimed that because I dont believe all 3 scum are in the inactives.

Extreme Ways wrote:

chanakam2020 wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:I also hard claimed my result because if there's scum in kingm or ragian, they would have noticed it for sure. Any afk scum would learn this from their teammates, but town does not have the luxury.

Did not get the meaning of this.
Can you eleborate little ?
What would have kingm or ragian know ?
afk scum means ?

We have 11 players left alive, of which most likely 8 are town.

If I spot something, I can not DM you saying "oh btw, EW claimed to be a Tracker and that Sonic visited Halrob". You have to read it for yourself. Scum however, can communicate privately out of thread. So of those that are less active, they will still know that I claimed that because I dont believe all 3 scum are in the inactives.

Ah OK got that. Tnx