Conquer Club

/ wrote:You know, the thing is, I am Santa, however contrary to your expectation I am not a serial killer, well technically I am in the context that I murder the cranberry sauce out of a ton of people, but that's just in my paranoid programming. I am strictly town who wants to obliterate the naughty naughty scum, but I am a trigger happy vig, meaning I must attempt to kill someone each night. So it's your choice, you can kill me now, or use me to get an extra kill in each night, blocking me on nights you don't want someone dead.

Night One I attempted to kill Strike, but unfortunately Dr.Zoidburg had the same plan.
Night Two I targeted pancakemix, who roleblocked me... By the way I am assuming Zapp is a bodyguard role most likely

Further note on this, I don't see where he got pancake mixed in on this. Pancake has at least in my eyes been the most protown looking player in this game and it seems much more likely that / picked him because it seemed like pancake might be onto him not being town than it looks like / picking out a potential scum.

I'd also like to note that when discussing who haggis/drunk could be, Kwanton said he had reason to believe it was NOT Kif and Amy. The only logical conclusion I can determine from this is at least one of those two characters are not in the game and were a mafia fake claim, thus why Kwanton would know why they could not be the lover/mason combination.

I'll have more coming later on, I just finished rereading the thread and have some ideas I'd like to express.

strike wolf wrote:I'd also like to note that when discussing who haggis/drunk could be, Kwanton said he had reason to believe it was NOT Kif and Amy. The only logical conclusion I can determine from this is at least one of those two characters are not in the game and were a mafia fake claim, thus why Kwanton would know why they could not be the lover/mason combination.

Could also just be misdirection on kwanton's part.

That would be quite risky. If Haggis and Drunk were Amy and Kif they would have almost certainly called him out on it and Kwanton would have been lynched.

Why would kwanton give away a mafia fakeclaim just to add some information for the town?

Metsfanmax wrote:Why would kwanton give away a mafia fakeclaim just to add some information for the town?

Wifom, set himself up for his fake claim (if mafia plays their fake claim before in the game it can add context and believability to the claim when he makes it).

safariguy5 wrote:QOTD:
Bender: And until then, I can never die?
Gypsy-Bot: Who said that? SURE you can die! [Pulls out big gun.] You want to die?!
Bender: No! I want to live! There are still too many things I don't own!

Vote Count

/(5)- Tails, PCM, drunk, jonty, Haggis

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Mets why haven't you voted /?

We don't necessarily need to rush through this jonty. We don't want to lose precious discussion, and we already know who / is. He ain't going anywhere.

-Tails

Unless you're trying to dissuade discussion? FOS jonty.

-Tails

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Unless you're trying to dissuade discussion? FOS jonty.

-Tails

No, I couldn't think of reason why if I was in Mets position I wouldn't have voted /.

jonty125 wrote:

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Unless you're trying to dissuade discussion? FOS jonty.

-Tails

No, I couldn't think of reason why if I was in Mets position I wouldn't have voted /.

I think we're still trying to squeeze what we can out of this day. That's probably not much, but still worth it.

@/: No.

strike wolf wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:Why would kwanton give away a mafia fakeclaim just to add some information for the town?

Wifom, set himself up for his fake claim (if mafia plays their fake claim before in the game it can add context and believability to the claim when he makes it).

It would not be logical at all to say those characters are NOT in the game and then later on claim to be those characters.

Regarding /: I'm perfectly willing to vote for him based on pcm's claim but pcm did specifically request to delay the hammer for more discussion, and I think strike wolf is acting a bit scummy.

Metsfanmax wrote:

strike wolf wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:Why would kwanton give away a mafia fakeclaim just to add some information for the town?

Wifom, set himself up for his fake claim (if mafia plays their fake claim before in the game it can add context and believability to the claim when he makes it).

It would not be logical at all to say those characters are NOT in the game and then later on claim to be those characters.

Regarding /: I'm perfectly willing to vote for him based on pcm's claim but pcm did specifically request to delay the hammer for more discussion, and I think strike wolf is acting a bit scummy.

Yes that would absolutely 0 sense if that was even remotely what I was saying. It's not. I'm saying that kwanton said he had reason to believe that Amy and Kif were not the mason/lover pair in this game.

@jonty: why Mets in particular? There are a few here active that have not put their votes on /

strike wolf wrote:@jonty: why Mets in particular? There are a few here active that have not put their votes on /

The people who have posted in the last 48 hours consist of: you, me, pcm, tails and mets. All of us barring mets has a vote on /. If someone isn't posting once every 48 hours I wouldn't call them active. So unless your talking about Andy and Gil (who haven't posted in over 4 days) I can't see who else would be considered active

I would strongly suggest you check the vote count as again Mets isn't the only one active who hasn't voted for /.

safariguy5 wrote:QOTD:
Bender: And until then, I can never die?
Gypsy-Bot: Who said that? SURE you can die! [Pulls out big gun.] You want to die?!
Bender: No! I want to live! There are still too many things I don't own!

Vote Count

/(5)- Tails, PCM, drunk, jonty, Haggis

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

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strike wolf wrote:I would strongly suggest you check the vote count as again Mets isn't the only one active who hasn't voted for /.

Oh sorry you haven't voted for Mets. Happy now?

I was out of town yesterday, I am going to catch up this evening when I have some time.


--Andy

strike wolf wrote:Yes that would absolutely 0 sense if that was even remotely what I was saying. It's not. I'm saying that kwanton said he had reason to believe that Amy and Kif [b]were not the mason/lover pair in this game.

Sorry, I think I misunderstood what you said because your conclusion was that one of them was not in the game. I get what you are saying now. Still, I think we should be wary of using any information given to us from kwanton.

I see what he's saying; I just don't see how it helps us now. Kwanton likely had Kif or Amy as a fake claim, and was setting himself up for later. The only reason this seems relevant is if another mafia member was given the other as a fake claim, but now we've openly told them we'll be suspicious of it. Seems it would have been better to keep this in reserve for the case that someone actually claimed it.

I'm caught back up. I still have my suspicions about Strike Wolf more than anyone else. Would someone care go into more detail regarding the case on '/'?


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:I'm caught back up. I still have my suspicions about Strike Wolf more than anyone else. Would someone care go into more detail regarding the case on '/'?


--Andy

pancakemix wrote:I'm the Hypnotoad. I blocked / last night.

Vote /

/ wrote:You know, the thing is, I am Santa, however contrary to your expectation I am not a serial killer, well technically I am in the context that I murder the cranberry sauce out of a ton of people, but that's just in my paranoid programming. I am strictly town who wants to obliterate the naughty naughty scum, but I am a trigger happy vig, meaning I must attempt to kill someone each night. So it's your choice, you can kill me now, or use me to get an extra kill in each night, blocking me on nights you don't want someone dead.

Night One I attempted to kill Strike, but unfortunately Dr.Zoidburg had the same plan.
Night Two I targeted pancakemix, who roleblocked me... By the way I am assuming Zapp is a bodyguard role most likely

MAJOR FOS Andy for EXTREME skimming! pcm claimed Hypnotoad who roleblocked / last night. The SK didn't have a kill last night. / admitted to being Santa Claws (Our #1 suspect for being SK) he claimed 'Trigger Happy Vig' we didn't buy it and are now lasting this day out for discussion. / is at L-2.

I didn't skim, I just wanted someone to explain their view of the case---like I've done for both Freezie and Strike Wolf. It's a courtesy.


--Andy

Well the case itself does not have much to summarize.

1. Santa Claws is the probable SK.
2. Santa was role blocked last night.
3. Scene flavor suggests Hypnotoad was the role blocker.
4. Pancake claims hypnotoad. Says he blocked /
5. / admits to being Santa claws but claims Over eager vig (that he has to kill someone each night).
6. States his n1 target as me and night 2 target as pancake.
7. This doesn't make sense from the. Vig perspective as pancake pretty much lead the Freezie wagon and has overall acted fairly protown.

As for my own case I was about an hour and a half into putting it together when my internet connection went down agian and since I hadn't saved any of it...I have to start over again from the top.

QOTD:
Calculon: I was all of history's great robot actors: Acting Unit 0.8, Thespomat, David Duchovny!

Vote Count

/(5)- Tails, PCM, drunk, jonty, Haggis

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

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