Conquer Club

SoN!c wrote:I think its very unlikely we would have 3 investigative roles. Because JK is a semi-investigative role too when he manages to jail a killer. Seems a bit town overpowerd if JK hadn't died N1.

Yes this is exactly what I felt.
2 investigators role + 1 semi investigator & Protector role + 1 protector role does not seems balanced game setting for me.
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Given that Scums are two seperate groups of 3 & 1 or 2 & 2 I think scum parties can have maximum of 3 power roles
If it is 3 & 1 then two power role for group of 3 scums and 1 power role for the lone scum.
If it is 2 & 2 then 2 Power Roles for each group.
Which seems off balanced setting against 4 power role holders + Advantage of number of players for Good Boy side of the game.
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Thats why I said there is some thing mismatching or wrong with Both Halrabos & EWs power role claims as they both have investigative roles.
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About halrob he saying that "Nobody visited him at night" can be wrong as I read and learned Mafia Wikis.
It is possible a player remain unnoticed some one visited him at night.
So
1. Halrob is misguiding us
or
2. He does not know about game play and settigs well enough

Finger crossed & Eyebrow Raised and Ear hanged down

I think you are confusing the issue regarding my so called breadcrumbing.
Think back to the start of the game.
i was immediately targeted for lynching purely because I turned up late. My defence is I did not fully understand how to engage in the thread.
I believe that to be successful in the game you have to identify what role the other players have, each guards his or her identity fiercely throughout the game.
As the numbers grew in favour of lynching me I was called out to reveal my role. Obviously I was reluctant to do this as I would be exposed as a possible target by the mafia.
Eventually I did reveal my role. Its up to you to believe if it was a truthful reveal or not.
EW also declared an investigative role but this could easily be as a hack for the Daily Bungle town newspaper. In fact he sowed seeds that I had been visited in the night.
This information could well have come from an informant or snitch who wanted to mislead EW, or EW could be using journalistic licence to sell newspapers, he may have a gripe against the town police for some perceived slight such as a parking ticket who knows.
However you need to look beyond my role if you want to crack who is who and what is what.
I'm being truthful, I cannot tell a lie, but lots of others can and are.
Oh and where is Max "Headroom" Maxleod is no one interesting in what Furtive Freddie is doing?

Do we need the silent crowd ?
Just vote them lynched one by one.
Easy play and don't have to think. At least we all active on the forum claim to be townies more or less.

Anyhow I will now present my list. In order to lynch.

Ragian
Kingm
EW

Vote Ragian

Ragian and Kingm (DDS) as before and EW since I earlier stated

hjelp wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote: ...
I am an investigative role of some sort. I have information on someone having visited Halrob. I'm curious if that person who I will not yet name but have named two people for (Ragian/Sonic) is a protective role, or a mafia roleblocker role.

It might be that EW belongs to town and if so - maybe it's not what it looks like.

hjelp wrote:There are roles Tracker and Scout.
There are role Werewolf (failed or not).
There are role Traitor.

Ragian and EW are strongly connected and I think they co-play since

Extreme Ways wrote:

Ragian wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:Declining to answer this for now, will answer it in the future.

Well, if we can do it this way, then by all means, I'll answer the same.

Do you need me to tell thread what you did last night?

Ragian wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:

Ragian wrote:

Extreme Ways wrote:Declining to answer this for now, will answer it in the future.

Well, if we can do it this way, then by all means, I'll answer the same.

Do you need me to tell thread what you did last night?

You, of all people, should sense the damn tone.

Extreme Ways wrote: ...
For the record, I didn't track Ragian anywhere. It kinda felt like he was playing chicken though, because I have faked a result in the past. Claiming Doc would be disastrous because the actual Doc would counterclaim. It was very easy to say "I didn't visit Halrob", but Rag wanted me to be upfront and just accuse him instead I guess?

hjelp wrote:Anyhow I will now present my list. In order to lynch.

Ragian
Kingm
EW

Vote Ragian

Ragian and Kingm (DDS) as before and EW since I earlier stated

This does not going well along together with your following statement.

hjelp wrote:Do we need the silent crowd ?
Just vote them lynched one by one.
Easy play and don't have to think. At least we all active on the forum claim to be townies more or less.

Your list does not include those who are silent.
I would name

• Devante
• Max
• Devon

as those who so far silent on D-2 & also mostly silent on D-1

Are they still sleeping ? (Because of they ar too tired from yesterday night wandering ?)

I do agree with getting rid of the silent ones

halrob64 wrote:I think you are confusing the issue regarding my so called breadcrumbing.
Think back to the start of the game.
i was immediately targeted for lynching purely because I turned up late. My defence is I did not fully understand how to engage in the thread.
I believe that to be successful in the game you have to identify what role the other players have, each guards his or her identity fiercely throughout the game.
As the numbers grew in favour of lynching me I was called out to reveal my role. Obviously I was reluctant to do this as I would be exposed as a possible target by the mafia.
Eventually I did reveal my role. Its up to you to believe if it was a truthful reveal or not.
EW also declared an investigative role but this could easily be as a hack for the Daily Bungle town newspaper. In fact he sowed seeds that I had been visited in the night.
This information could well have come from an informant or snitch who wanted to mislead EW, or EW could be using journalistic licence to sell newspapers, he may have a gripe against the town police for some perceived slight such as a parking ticket who knows.
However you need to look beyond my role if you want to crack who is who and what is what.
I'm being truthful, I cannot tell a lie, but lots of others can and are.
Oh and where is Max "Headroom" Maxleod is no one interesting in what Furtive Freddie is doing?

Very nice post Halrob! Hard to fake stuff from the gut / hearth & i can enjoy a funny "Furtive Freddie" while enjoying my beers and wine here! lol

FP by Halrob who seems to have catch up'd on how this game is played fast!

@chanakam

No silent on my list.

The option silent crowd was an alternative. To bring up other ideas.

EW pressures me and I tell him to back off, and you call that playing together. Colour me confused.

DirtyDishSoap wrote:I also realize for those that read too closely that I'm incriminating myself with skimming. I really have to emphasize that i work ridiculous hours, which is why i had stop playing to begin with. Food for thought.

This was DDS 2nd post (2/2 on a 1/2 second post)

He said this when signing up " don't know how active i can be given work, but I'll try."


Looks like he already "knew" it right after receiving his role...& he kinda realized that himself saying "I'm incriminating myself"..

And his first post looked like an over the top joke phase but it has nervous elements in there too. Like over acting in laughing the scary role part away like "oh my, thats a role". Does anybody else get this feeling its weird behavior? Something smells fishy to me

In short: i realy like how Kingm has subbed in but this remains a game in the end and i wanna win it. No room for errors either with JK dead N1 and 2 kills a night most likely. Kingm just has to deal the deck of cards he got and that is the DDS pack of cards.. good or real bad - he got them. So yes im the loudest "Kingm reeks scum" shouter but for good reasons . Also i think Kingm is gonna claim VT (vanillla) but being vanilla does not add up to DDS his play is my opinion. Id like to hear rest of towns opinion on this

Chale prodded us so here I am. Catching up on things got a few questions; EW are you claiming you did track someone and therefore have info on that or was that just a prod at rags? Halrob are you claiming that you know that you were not visited last night as that is not information usually provided?

Right now I'm finding Kingm that most sus but that is influenced by how things went with DDS and his posts as well. Otherwise some inconsistencies on a few others but nothing that is screaming lynch him now. I would like to hear a claim out of king though and see if Sonics theory unfolds as laid out. Halrob/EW please answer above and for now

VOTE KINGM

If the silent group supports to lynch Kingm...
and if the silent group are mafias then Kingm likely to be townie ...

Devante,
EW says he has evidence I was visited, so you need to ask him to come clean. I ask the questions in my department civilians don't ask me. oh by the way what did you do last night? Other than lurk in the shadows

hjelp wrote:If the silent group supports to lynch Kingm...
and if the silent group are mafias then Kingm likely to be townie ...

So why the vote on Rags

I'm not a part of the silent group

Maybye the silent group needs a lot of hjelp ;

Dev is CC's mod on these games. Never very active. And Max is Max -( i can't explain it better then ""max is max"). Dunno Devon.

Pretty sure that with 2 kills on the silent lurkers there is no way the rest of them are all three scum.

hjelp wrote:I'm not a part of the silent group

What kind of answer is that, doesn't explain the vote or answer my question

Maybe the silent group are from the school of the gifted https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFarSide/com ... he_gifted/

Devante wrote:

hjelp wrote:I'm not a part of the silent group

What kind of answer is that, doesn't explain the vote or answer my question

The reason I vote on Ragian is

hjelp wrote:

Ragian wrote:The quick votes on Loose, who seems to be trying to move the game forward, reek. Saying that Loose, as an experienced player, would vote for someone because he's scum is saying that Loose is bad at the game. He's not. He's rattling the cage, which is good stuff D1. We already have loads of reactions.

@hjelp, I'd argue that even lynching an innocent D1 is good because it forms a voting pattern for people. Only scum know who is scum and who is not scum, so the chances of getting scum D1 are slim, but lynching is town's only weapon, so the threat of lynch and lynch itself is very important in order to gauge reactions.

One scum defending another scum.

Then there will be two in bags => scumbags
Later on at the end of D2.

and I still haven't changed my mind about Ragian during D1 and D2 so far after reading what is written in the forum.

Halrob first of all massive thank you for playing actively - and that goes for everyone else doing so too - whatever our/your factions are.
Secondly regarding someone visiting you last night - you don't know if they did or didn't.
a. A town doctor (if any) may or may not have visited you - they may have coinflipped as I suggested.
b. A mafia hooker (if any) may have visited you - to prevent you getting a result on your investigation (if you are town cop as you claim)
Personally I'd like to imagine that was Kingm reprising his role from the previous game when he visited Sonic twice - and Sonic didn't raise any complaints about that!
So if you've woken up with a smile on your face .... well Sonic aint judging.
As an alternative to Mafia trying to kill you last night sending any hooker they have would make sense.
c. Extreme claims you were visited - this may or may not be true - and even if it isn't doesn't make Extreme mafia.
d. A hooker and a doctor may have both tried to visit you - but you may have been in jail for your own protection. Even cops can spend the odd night in jail in Charleston.
That would explain a no result of your investigation (if there was one)
Fact is you don't know if you were visited or not and if so by one or more players, nor if you were jailed or not - thats the mechanics.
Probability is that out of A-D you were visited, and IF you as you claim are the cop BUT GOT NO RESULT then YOU WERE DEFINITELY (no probability about it) visited.

Rag/Extreme.
I'll say it now, that I went to bed last night thinking Rag was innocent, then woke up this morning thinking Rag was guilty and EW had tracked Rag on instinct and EW had revealed himself to confirm or question his instinct that Rag was more likely hooker (if any) than doctor (if any). And I guess part of the waking up feeling sticks.
Even though EW said in the overnight post that actually it wasn't Rag he knew visited Halrob.
EW may or may not as part of his role know that someone visited Halrob, but he hasn't harmed town and there has been reaction to it - or in some cases no posted reaction - which is a reaction in itself.

What I will say on Kingm who my vote is currently on is there was something DDS said about frustration with Max when DDS was blowing off steam.
I've got Max as playing consistent with town Max - but actually there's no reason at all why a Mafia Max isn't what we are seeing.
There's something saying to me that DDS.s reaction might have been I'm playing to win, I've got Max on my side, I'm getting heat because of stupid AI and Max and doesn't (as far as DDS is concerned) invest himself in the game, but who was No1 AI suspect isn't.
I'M NOT THAT AVERSE to switching my vote from Kingm to Max partly as a proxy vote for Kingm - just on that whim.
But a switch to Max would also fit with a town DDS/KingM blowing off steam - and it could be right that Max is Mafia.

Max might want to get back onto posting - particularly who he Town Max suspects or Mafia Max says he suspects?

FP'd by hjelp

Hmm well I did wake up tired....

And as the saying goes. " All's well that has a happy ending"

halrob64 wrote:I do agree with getting rid of the silent ones

I thought we had to visit once every 72 hours? D2 was announced Fri Sep 05, 2025 12:39 pm, so I'm only a little bit late.
Pleased to have survived my first ever night, playing this though but sad for my fellow companions that have died.
I’ll be honest I am probably not going to talk a shit load, it is my first attempt at this and clearly all you know the roles and format way better than me, so if you want to kill me for lurking a bit and trying to figure out what is going on then, bloody well go ahead.

Irl it’s my bro’s wedding this weekend, he is not marrying into any scum family so don’t worry about that. However I am his best man and he’s given me a task list as long as your arm. So finding time to read EVERYTHING and respond is a bit tricky right now. Advance notice I won’t be available at all 12th and 13th September. After that, time should be less of an issue and hopefully I can engage a little more.

I also do not want to rush in and vote just yet, I’m not sure I got it totally right D1. I Don’t want to get this wrong when we are 2 down already.

Thoughts?

Devon, the way I see it for myself is, if I'm town it doesn't matter if I get things wrong. Just that I post what I post and vote what I vote from an honest place.
To you, don't worry about getting it wrong, ok.