Football (real)

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:11 pm

Big sam has gone.

the_fatty · Post by **the_fatty** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:28 pm

jay_a2j wrote:"Real" football involves full body contact. Men play American football and boys play soccer.

GO DOLPHINS!

by dolfins, u meant pats, right :wink:

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:28 pm

firth4eva wrote:Big sam has gone.

I know

rhoges6 · Post by **rhoges6** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:33 pm

I didn't go through all 34 pages, but I'm probably the only Shrewsbury Town FC fan here. I live in the US so my knowledge of the specifics of the Shrews is limited, but they started the season well but have had a tough go of things lately. It sucks being a true football fan in the states cause I never get to see any games.

DAZMCFC · Post by **DAZMCFC** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:38 pm

rhoges6 wrote:I didn't go through all 34 pages, but I'm probably the only Shrewsbury Town FC fan here. I live in the US so my knowledge of the specifics of the Shrews is limited, but they started the season well but have had a tough go of things lately. It sucks being a true football fan in the states cause I never get to see any games.

welcome to you Shrew'. we got Joe Hart from Shrewsbury a few years back.

now to the bad news. Everton 1 Man City 0

oh well have to hope we beat West Ham on Wednesday and Sunday. :lol:

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:37 pm

now to the good news

boro1-1 liverpool

captain marval does it for boro but fernando saves rafa. Also crouch not even in the squad

boro and city are chasing him

brooksieb · Post by **brooksieb** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:48 pm

nagerous wrote:Spurs fan here *waits for flaming*

Yiddow!!!!!

AFC 4 LYFE

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:55 pm

I am going to make a football only clan

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:45 pm

ARGH OMG WE WERE BAK IN THE LEAD NOW LOSING ON GOAL DIFFERENCE

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i was cheering middlesbrough on for u cena, also cos sum1 i knew made me cheer them or he would stick a small stick in my ear

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:58 pm

i like that guy

6-0 mancs

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:34 pm

cena-rules wrote:i like that guy

6-0 mancs

i am more than "that guy"

im "that cool dude"

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:35 pm

the guy that foced you to i meant

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:40 pm

Oh yeah, he had a sausage stick near me and kept jabbing me, at one point he stabbed me so hard i bled :lol:

Anyway, DAMN ARSENAL DRAWING U PILE OF CRAP

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:05 pm

“Fred? Fred who? There is no way we can afford Fred at Lyon,” said Redknapp in The News. “I think he's going to Middlesbrough anyway.”

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*laughs at norse*

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:24 pm

I've seen several post in this thread saying that many of you refuse to call American football by it's usual term of just plain "Football", and some even seem offended when americans call it football, and refer to European football as just Soccer. Ok, fair enough, however as European football has another name "Soccer", and american football has no other name than football, what would those who are offended by the use of the term football to describe the american sport, have us call US Football. Also if Soccer was called football before American football was invented, where did the term"Soccer" come from? Seems odd that someone would choose the term football if the term was used for a different, and popular sport already. I've also seen two post, where one said Soccer was invented around 1000, and another that said the modern version of Soccer was not much older than US Football. Can anyone clarify? Oh, and in the spirit of the post, I am a Kansas City, Wizards fan, and if this thread is referring to only Europe based teams, I guess I would go for Manchester United, since it's the only team outside the US, I've heard of. Never seen a team nickname that didnt end with an S before, but being different is good I suppose. For real though I don't really like the sport, and fail to understand the virtual world wide interest in it. Maybe the answers to my questions will reveal some secret to Soccer I was unaware of before.

P.S. For those Brits who claim NFL Football has no fan base outside the US , might I point out that Wembly stadium was sold out for the Miami - NY Giants game held there last year, and that the Superbowl has 1 Billion viewers WORLDWIDE every year. Only 140 million of those are from the US. Also, in case citizens of London were unaware, the NFL wants an existing NFL team, or an expansion team in London by 2012 so there must be more interest than first thought overseas in the NFL. If London gets an NFL team (Most likely will be called the Knights), and you call Soccer football, than what will you call the sport your London NFL team plays? They can't both be called football in the same place, and I know you won't use Soccer.

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:51 pm

I read somewhere that the USA isn't the same as the entire world. Was probably an old book....

Fact is, everyone but the Americans refer to soccer as football and to "football" as American Football. I would imagine that calling it American Football would only satisfy the americans, as it makes clear americans invented it. Do you people also call Ice Hockey just hockey? Because that's kind off silly too.

Btw, I am quite a fan of American Football. It's pretty cool. But I'm also a fan of football, as it is way different but equally fun.
I can't understand why you can't just see that you don't have to like one and not the other.

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:01 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:I read somewhere that the USA isn't the same as the entire world. Was probably an old book....

Fact is, everyone but the Americans refer to soccer as football and to "football" as American Football. I would imagine that calling it American Football would only satisfy the americans, as it makes clear americans invented it. Do you people also call Ice Hockey just hockey? Because that's kind off silly too.

Btw, I am quite a fan of American Football. It's pretty cool. But I'm also a fan of football, as it is way different but equally fun.
I can't understand why you can't just see that you don't have to like one and not the other.

Actually we do call Ice hockey "Hockey". I was unaware that that was unusual. We don't call our football "American Football" Only people outside the US call it that. I'm curious as to why we use football when it was used for something else, and where did the term Soccer come from? The answers to this post, and the answers to questions in my post before this one would be appreciated. Thank you

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:03 pm

Oh hey there Jamie,
Shouldn't you be busy shutting up and basking in the hatred of the CC community at large? That or reporting dope-smoking teenagers to the police...

Same thing really eh?

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:20 pm

Jamie wrote:
Actually we do call Ice hockey "Hockey".
I was unaware that that was unusual.

Well it's unusual because there actually exists something called hockey that is not played on ice. My country has one of the best teams on it.

We don't call our football "American Football" Only people outside the US call it that. I'm curious as to why we use football when it was used for something else, and where did the term Soccer come from? The answers to this post, and the answers to questions in my post before this one would be appreciated. Thank you

Probably something to do with the american tendency to insist there are no other countries in the world that actually matter. The USA probably decided American Football wasn't short enough for most people to say, so the term football was used after some time.
I have no idea why you started to call it soccer, but I'm assuming that is just another silly thing done by the USA.

Really, you have to admit that it isn't unreasonable for people to be angry at the sheer arrogance the USA projects by thinking any sport they aren't the best at is somehow less and calling it a different name. American football and ice hockey aren't major anywhere but the USA and Canada.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:24 pm

The word soccer is a colloquial abbreviation of association (from assoc.) and first appeared in the 1880s. The word is sometimes credited to Charles Wreford Brown, an Oxford University student said to have been fond of shortened forms such as brekkers for breakfast and rugger for rugby football.

There ya go Jamie. Now piss off

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:30 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Actually we do call Ice hockey "Hockey".
I was unaware that that was unusual.

Well it's unusual because there actually exists something called hockey that is not played on ice. My country has one of the best teams on it.

We don't call our football "American Football" Only people outside the US call it that. I'm curious as to why we use football when it was used for something else, and where did the term Soccer come from? The answers to this post, and the answers to questions in my post before this one would be appreciated. Thank you

Probably something to do with the american tendency to insist there are no other countries in the world that actually matter. The USA probably decided American Football wasn't short enough for most people to say, so the term football was used after some time.
I have no idea why you started to call it soccer, but I'm assuming that is just another silly thing done by the USA.

Really, you have to admit that it isn't unreasonable for people to be angry at the sheer arrogance the USA projects by thinking any sport they aren't the best at is somehow less and calling it a different name. American football and ice hockey aren't major anywhere but the USA and Canada.

Than why is the NFL wanting to put a team in London, and why did an NFL team sell out a 90,000 seat stadium in London, and for the record, Hockey or Ice Hockey, whatever, is not popular in the US, despite the fact most of the NHL teams are in the US. Canada is the Hockey capital of the world, with Russia being second. The US didn't give a rats ass about Hockey until the US team upset Russia and eventually won the gold in 1980, and even now, it's not all that popular here. Most arenas only hold 15,000 - 20,000 fans, and most arenas aren't sold out.

ignotus · Post by **ignotus** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:31 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Actually we do call Ice hockey "Hockey".
I was unaware that that was unusual.

Well it's unusual because there actually exists something called hockey that is not played on ice. My country has one of the best teams on it.

We don't call our football "American Football" Only people outside the US call it that. I'm curious as to why we use football when it was used for something else, and where did the term Soccer come from? The answers to this post, and the answers to questions in my post before this one would be appreciated. Thank you

Probably something to do with the american tendency to insist there are no other countries in the world that actually matter. The USA probably decided American Football wasn't short enough for most people to say, so the term football was used after some time.
I have no idea why you started to call it soccer, but I'm assuming that is just another silly thing done by the USA.

Really, you have to admit that it isn't unreasonable for people to be angry at the sheer arrogance the USA projects by thinking any sport they aren't the best at is somehow less and calling it a different name. American football and ice hockey aren't major anywhere but the USA and Canada.

Well ice hockey is popular in Sweden, Norway, Russia, Finland, Iceland, Czech republic, et cetera, you know.

I'll put my money on Pakistan in any "other" hockey match (including Olympics). Term "soccer" is used only in North America, even in Mexico sport is called Football. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_national_football_team
So why asking us, when only you silly North Americans call it soccer. You find out and tell me.

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:38 pm

ignotus wrote:
Well ice hockey is popular in Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Czech republic, et cetera, you know.

All the cold countries?:P
No suprises there. But for most of the world it isn't exactly well known though.

I'll put my money on Pakistan in any "other" hockey match (including Olympics)

Nah man, Pakistan is good, but The Netherlands, Germany and Australia have been the dominant ones as of late. (With special mention to korea.)

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:19 pm

according to this website, the term "soccer" was coined by the English.

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/26246

This quote from the site explains it best

"There are several games that are called "football", including Rugby, American football, and Association football. Association football is the game that Americans call "soccer". Association is often abbreviated as "assoc." which led to the slang term " 'soc" which became "soccer".

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:56 am

Iliad wrote:The word soccer is a colloquial abbreviation of association (from assoc.) and first appeared in the 1880s. The word is sometimes credited to Charles Wreford Brown, an Oxford University student said to have been fond of shortened forms such as brekkers for breakfast and rugger for rugby football.

There ya go Jamie. Now piss off

Jamie you should learn to read one day