Conquer Club

captain.crazy wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:By the way, John Tyler was the only president to have been labeled as an enemy of the state, as after his term, he joined the Confederacy and served the South!

Really? Very interesting (that may have sounded sarcastic, but really, it is)

Yes, I met his Great Great Grandson, who informed me of this, but I believe that you could verify this online...

I looked on-line but couldn't find that you had met his Great Great Grandson

neanderpaul14 wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:By the way, John Tyler was the only president to have been labeled as an enemy of the state, as after his term, he joined the Confederacy and served the South!

Really? Very interesting (that may have sounded sarcastic, but really, it is)

Yes, I met his Great Great Grandson, who informed me of this, but I believe that you could verify this online...

I looked on-line but couldn't find that you had met his Great Great Grandson

http://www.classroomhelp.com/lessons/Presidents/tyler.html

John Tyler died in 1862 and was buried in Richmond, pointedly ignored by the federal government as a sworn enemy of the U.S. He was 71 years and 295 days old.

captain.crazy wrote:

neanderpaul14 wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:By the way, John Tyler was the only president to have been labeled as an enemy of the state, as after his term, he joined the Confederacy and served the South!

Really? Very interesting (that may have sounded sarcastic, but really, it is)

Yes, I met his Great Great Grandson, who informed me of this, but I believe that you could verify this online...

I looked on-line but couldn't find that you had met his Great Great Grandson

http://www.classroomhelp.com/lessons/Presidents/tyler.html

John Tyler died in 1862 and was buried in Richmond, pointedly ignored by the federal government as a sworn enemy of the U.S. He was 71 years and 295 days old.

Nowhere in that article does it say you met his Great Great Grandson.....JK

Wow 15 kids........what a dog

neanderpaul14 wrote:

JJM wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:Jackson wasn't a horrible President, but he was a horrible man.

JJM gets the two confused.

While he was a general he promised any Indian tribe that fought on his side at the battle of New Orleans would be aloud to keep their land. When he became president he broke that promise and kicked them all west. If you don't call that awful then you are out of your mind.

Oh god forbid a president who lied to people, and to the Indians nonetheless. I'm sure Jackson must have been the only president we ever had that lied to people, and certainly the only one to have an anti-Indian policy.

Of all the things we did to the Indians, Jackson's betrayal of the men who fought for him was by far the worst. He was a cowardly rat bastard and the first president to dishonor our constitution by denying the southern states their right to secede. I still voted for Bush though.


Honibaz

States cannot have a right to secede; that's absurd. If a state secedes, it rejects the very Constitution which you claim grants them such rights.

whoa where did all these votes for carter come from

People are so subjective. They lived through Carter and Bush, so of course they must have been the worst President. They were so horrible!

'Cause, you know, some stagflation is SO much worse than Civil War, the Great Depression, Constitutional rape, or genocide.

InkL0sed wrote:People are so subjective. They lived through Carter and Bush, so of course they must have been the worst President. They were so horrible!

'Cause, you know, some stagflation is SO much worse than Civil War, the Great Depression, Constitutional rape, or genocide.

note to self: re: constitutional rape: possible band name

InkL0sed wrote:People are so subjective. They lived through Carter and Bush, so of course they must have been the worst President. They were so horrible!

'Cause, you know, some stagflation is SO much worse than Civil War, the Great Depression, Constitutional rape, or genocide.

Reading these comments and the votes, I think the same thing.

Also, I may have stated this in another forum, but I base my entire "vote" on whether the president did or did not do a good job in his capacity as president. In other words, I don't give a flying fish whether Nixon tried to steal an election; that doesn't factor in to my decision. I do, however, think that helping to bring about the deaths of some 650,000 Americans in a Civil War is a pretty good indication that you didn't do a good job at the president thing...

whoops, didn't see this until just now

JJM wrote:Dispite all the opposition Taylor was determind to have California join as a free state.

well i really want to shit gold unicorns, unfortunately it doesn't make me the richest man on earth

Captain_Scarlet wrote:I see many informed, intelligent comments

but if the American education system only teaches Americans their own history for a year, I assumed the comments made by the younger members of the forum are based on their parents opinion and not on actual facts.

I base this assumption on the bad spelling and grammer of one member who has difficulty spelling his own name and who exclaims disdain at some of the more informed posts.

yes I voted Bush worst president

Coming from an Aussie, That seems like the typical response about America and our Education System. There are a good few of us who do study American History / Presidents, with more than a quick look. In fact I would wager that more Americans know about the past Presidents than Aussies with past Prime Ministers.

Bruceswar wrote:

Captain_Scarlet wrote:I see many informed, intelligent comments

but if the American education system only teaches Americans their own history for a year, I assumed the comments made by the younger members of the forum are based on their parents opinion and not on actual facts.

I base this assumption on the bad spelling and grammer of one member who has difficulty spelling his own name and who exclaims disdain at some of the more informed posts.

yes I voted Bush worst president

Coming from an Aussie, That seems like the typical Response about America and our Education System. There are a good few of us who do study American History / Presidents, with more than a quick look. In fact I would wager that more Americans know about the past Presidents than Aussies with past Prime Ministers.

fun aussie pm fact: during his term in office, harold holt, prime minister during the 1960s, disappeared at the beach and was never seen since

Bruceswar wrote:

Captain_Scarlet wrote:I see many informed, intelligent comments

but if the American education system only teaches Americans their own history for a year, I assumed the comments made by the younger members of the forum are based on their parents opinion and not on actual facts.

I base this assumption on the bad spelling and grammer of one member who has difficulty spelling his own name and who exclaims disdain at some of the more informed posts.

yes I voted Bush worst president

Coming from an Aussie, That seems like the typical Response about America and our Education System. There are a good few of us who do study American History / Presidents, with more than a quick look. In fact I would wager that more Americans know about the past Presidents than Aussies with past Prime Ministers.

Yeah, I wonder if that's a common opinion in Australia - "All Americans are stupid... mate."

Captain_Scarlet wrote:I see many informed, intelligent comments

but if the American education system only teaches Americans their own history for a year, I assumed the comments made by the younger members of the forum are based on their parents opinion and not on actual facts.

I base this assumption on the bad spelling and grammer of one member who has difficulty spelling his own name and who exclaims disdain at some of the more informed posts.

yes I voted Bush worst president

Do they spell grammar with an "er" over in Australia. Because if not, you're really not in a position to judge anyone else from another English-speaking country.

Perhaps we found JJM a soulmate?

William Henry Harrison.


He's so damn good, he's bad. Can't get no badder than his badass. Don't even try.

SultanOfSurreal wrote:fun aussie pm fact: during his term in office, harold holt, prime minister during the 1960s, disappeared at the beach and was never seen since

Well that's the 60s for you he probably dropped acid and went to Berkley to "find himself"

thegreekdog wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:

Captain_Scarlet wrote:I see many informed, intelligent comments

but if the American education system only teaches Americans their own history for a year, I assumed the comments made by the younger members of the forum are based on their parents opinion and not on actual facts.

I base this assumption on the bad spelling and grammer of one member who has difficulty spelling his own name and who exclaims disdain at some of the more informed posts.

yes I voted Bush worst president

Coming from an Aussie, That seems like the typical Response about America and our Education System. There are a good few of us who do study American History / Presidents, with more than a quick look. In fact I would wager that more Americans know about the past Presidents than Aussies with past Prime Ministers.

Yeah, I wonder if that's a common opinion in Australia - "All Americans are stupid... mate."

Having known quite a few Aussies, they tend to think we are all fat burger loving, snobish idiots.

Actually I dont think anyone is stupid

just thought some comments made were rather subjective

Captain_Scarlet wrote:I base this assumption on the bad spelling and grammer of one member who has difficulty spelling his own name and who exclaims disdain at some of the more informed posts.

It's funny how the people who flame others for bad grammar always fall on their own sword.

"I don't like it when people don't talk good and stuff."

Johnson, easily. Who else on the list was brought up for impeachment and only missed being booted from office by one vote? After his last term as president he got beaten in a Senate race in his home state.

CrazyAnglican wrote:Johnson, easily. Who else on the list was brought up for impeachment .......twice?

Thank you!

SultanOfSurreal wrote:
fun aussie pm fact: during his term in office, harold holt, prime minister during the 1960s, disappeared at the beach and was never seen since

That is why he is my favourite Australian Prime Minister! It was only in his first year that happened. Many thought it was a Japanese Sub that came and took him. The logical answer was that he drowned.

Bruceswar wrote:
Coming from an Aussie, That seems like the typical response about America and our Education System. There are a good few of us who do study American History / Presidents, with more than a quick look. In fact I would wager that more Americans know about the past Presidents than Aussies with past Prime Ministers.

As an Aussie, I think it would be safe to say that most Australian's know more American Presidents than Australian Prime Ministers. Sad, but true. (but then again, that has more to say with the dominance the US has on Western Culture)

Sadly, I know more about Mad Max than any American movie involving long drawn-out car chases