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Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:08 pm
by mpjh
Actually it is pro-Americanism, or rather realistic-Americanism, or even better it is the truth.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:10 pm
by Grooveman2007
mpjh wrote:Actually it is pro-Americanism, or rather realistic-Americanism, or even better it is the truth.


yup... :(

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:38 pm
by heavycola
static_ice wrote:Image


wish i could give you karma for posting a ralph steadman cartoon...

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:37 pm
by Backglass
mpjh wrote:It is just a simple testament to our educational system.


Yup...this is what happens when you spend all your money on useless wars against other countries...ignore your own.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:14 pm
by hecter
luns101 wrote:
bbqpenguin wrote:man iceland must be great, it got all those first place spots... i wonder whether they'd place place first on that 'most bankrupt country' list, too?


No, but they do rank #1 in the government corruption category

that's a good thing by the way if you go to the bottom of the rankings and read how the scoring is done.

Ya, places like Chad and Kenya and Congo have great governments... Lets all move there!

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:20 pm
by mpjh
OK, we'll house sit for you while you are gone.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:51 pm
by pimpdave
To be fair, I'm pretty sure the USA is still number one in the world for the number of patents created each year, research grants, and the largest GDP in the world.

Granted, that's pretty much controlled by about 2 percent of the population, but hey, you got a fuckin problem wit dat?

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:23 am
by jonesthecurl
New Jersey has something like 90% of the diners in the world.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:25 am
by mpjh
New Jersey has more toxic waste dumps per capita than any state in the union.
California has more lawyers per capita than any state in the union.

Do you know why?

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:26 am
by jonesthecurl
Well, I think the toxic waste dumps and the diners may be related...

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:30 am
by mpjh
Nope, the people of New Jersey got first choice.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:30 am
by jonesthecurl
excellent!

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:31 am
by pimpdave
:lol:

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:45 am
by static_ice
heavycola wrote:
static_ice wrote:Image


wish i could give you karma for posting a ralph steadman cartoon...

I was wondering if someone would recognize it. I have a big ass poster of Lizard Lounge hanging above my desk. :D

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:40 am
by TheProwler
Snorri1234 wrote:
TheProwler wrote:As you can see, a specific subject, in which the religious beliefs (fundamentalist Christianity) of many Americans will put them at a disadvantage, was used.

So your excuse for americans appearing stupid regarding science is saying that they are stupid?


The fact that so many Americans still believe evolution is false is testament to their ignorance of science.

Do you seriously not understand that asking a single question, a question that can be a sensitive issue with fundamentalist Christians, then taking the results of the answers to that single question and using them to make a broad statement about "Scientific Literacy" is severely flawed?

Did you not read what I said about the possibility that the research was performed by US college students who might be inclined to do their best to get sensational and shocking results?

The bottom line is that I am skeptical of any statistics that are just presented without a detailed explanation of how the results were determined. And the vast majority of the time, "scientific" studies are flawed. That is a fact. Studies have proved it.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:06 am
by Megadeth666
CANADA IS #1 FOR BEER

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Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:26 am
by yeti_c
pimpdave wrote:To be fair, I'm pretty sure the USA is still number one in the world for the number of patents created each year


This wouldn't surprise me - 3 different companies hold a patent for the same thing that they are suing Nintendo over regarding their Wiimotes...

So you've got number 1 in a bogus system? - Superb.

C.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:33 am
by pimpdave
yeti_c wrote:
pimpdave wrote:To be fair, I'm pretty sure the USA is still number one in the world for the number of patents created each year


This wouldn't surprise me - 3 different companies hold a patent for the same thing that they are suing Nintendo over regarding their Wiimotes...

So you've got number 1 in a bogus system? - Superb.

C.



I love it when you silly limeys get all riled up. Well, enjoy your Empire, hot shot. Next time someone threatens to completely annihilate you and your cute little island, be sure to ask us for help. You know we'll always bail you out!

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:42 am
by yeti_c
pimpdave wrote:I love it when you silly limeys get all riled up. Well, enjoy your Empire, hot shot. Next time someone threatens to completely annihilate you and your cute little island, be sure to ask us for help. You know we'll always bail you out!


Bah - who said I was "riled up"?!

Don't worry though - the USA won't have much of an Army left once the Global Credit Crisis has destroyed all your banks.

C.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:56 am
by mpjh
Last time I looked, we were all in the same life raft, so who is sticking the knife into the raft bladder?

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:06 am
by Snorri1234
TheProwler wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
TheProwler wrote:As you can see, a specific subject, in which the religious beliefs (fundamentalist Christianity) of many Americans will put them at a disadvantage, was used.

So your excuse for americans appearing stupid regarding science is saying that they are stupid?


The fact that so many Americans still believe evolution is false is testament to their ignorance of science.

Do you seriously not understand that asking a single question, a question that can be a sensitive issue with fundamentalist Christians, then taking the results of the answers to that single question and using them to make a broad statement about "Scientific Literacy" is severely flawed?


I understand that it is flawed. However, the very fact that the belief in creationism is so widespread in the US is testament to a severe lack of knowledge on particular scientific subjects. If your religious beliefs undermine your knowledge of science, isn't that evidence of bad "scientific literacy"(whatever that means)?

Sure, the study is flawed and a better one should be conducted, but I doubt it will change much in the rankings. Evolution is a major scientific thing and I don't see many other fields where Americans would suddenly be experts and far surpass the other countries on the list.

The bottom line is that I am skeptical of any statistics that are just presented without a detailed explanation of how the results were determined. And the vast majority of the time, "scientific" studies are flawed. That is a fact. Studies have proved it.

Ofcourse, but this was just a funny picture taking a jab at the american idea that they are the most advanced and best nation in the world. These statistics are for a great deal from the Human Development index and heavily researched. It leaves out quite a few things where the US is better, but that's not the idea behind the picture.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:09 am
by yeti_c
mpjh wrote:Last time I looked, we were all in the same life raft, so who is sticking the knife into the raft bladder?


Who sank the ship in the first place?

C.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:35 am
by mpjh
What ship, I thought that sea level just rose.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:45 am
by Genghis Khant
pimpdave wrote:I love it when you silly limeys get all riled up. Well, enjoy your Empire, hot shot. Next time someone threatens to completely annihilate you and your cute little island, be sure to ask us for help. You know we'll always bail you out!

Yes, but only if you think you'll profit from it.

And you'll probably turn up late again.

Re: We're not #1!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:46 am
by jonesthecurl
Anmd have more chocolate than the Brits too.
And stockings.