Conquer Club

seriously, did trackerisk delete themself?

Or was it Winston Smith in the Department of Truth working on the unperson files?

jonesthecurl wrote:seriously, did trackerisk delete themself?

Or was it Winston Smith in the Department of Truth working on the unperson files?

I'm fairly certain that this has happened before, but I couldn't tell you how it works.

Blimey, talk about "get a life"
I can understand deleting particularly offensive stuff, but everything trackerisk said on this thread is still up there in the replies anyhow...

Mr. Thecurl,

Please refrain from asking questions in this thread. This thread is for you to share your views, not to ask general questions, which will in turn confuse everyone and the poor fellow in the cubicle adjacent.

If you would like a thread entitled Jonesthecurl Asks Questions of No One in Particular, I will gladly start it for you.

He has a point.
Sorry, that should read "My thought is that he has a point".

Your thought on "THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA," the film, not the book.

"Must see classic," or "two hours of an old man in a boat, stupid."

Why do we drive in a parkway and park in a driveway?

Juan_Bottom wrote:Your thought on "THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA," the film, not the book.

"Must see classic," or "two hours of an old man in a boat, stupid."

"Haven't seen classic". But I suspect the latter.


ON a side issue, it annoys me that when people think of(for example) The Wizard of Oz, they think of a film first. When they think of Starship Troopers, they forget that there was a fine book to begin with which made a lot more sense than the movie. And nowadays, people arebeginning to assume you mean the movies rather than the books even when you talk about Lord of The Rings.
And don't get me started on the whole question of Tarzan.

HapSmo19 wrote:Why do we drive in a parkway and park in a driveway?

I don't drive. Or, therefore, park.

But if we walk on a sidewalk, shouldn't we board on a sideboard?

And how come "inflammable" isn't the opposite of "flammable"?

Why can you call taking off the peel from a banana (HI Andy) either "peeling" or "unpeeling"?

jonesthecurl wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:Your thought on "THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA," the film, not the book.

"Must see classic," or "two hours of an old man in a boat, stupid."

"Haven't seen classic". But I suspect the latter.


ON a side issue, it annoys me that when people think of(for example) The Wizard of Oz, they think of a film first. When they think of Starship Troopers, they forget that there was a fine book to begin with which made a lot more sense than the movie. And nowadays, people arebeginning to assume you mean the movies rather than the books even when you talk about Lord of The Rings.
And don't get me started on the whole question of Tarzan.

In your opinion/with films you HAVE seen, what is the worst film adaptation of an excellent book?

Also, kudos on answering the Gothic and Impressionist questions... You F-ing genious.

Juan_Bottom wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:Your thought on "THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA," the film, not the book.

"Must see classic," or "two hours of an old man in a boat, stupid."

"Haven't seen classic". But I suspect the latter.


ON a side issue, it annoys me that when people think of(for example) The Wizard of Oz, they think of a film first. When they think of Starship Troopers, they forget that there was a fine book to begin with which made a lot more sense than the movie. And nowadays, people arebeginning to assume you mean the movies rather than the books even when you talk about Lord of The Rings.
And don't get me started on the whole question of Tarzan.

In your opinion/with films you HAVE seen, what is the worst film adaptation of an excellent book?

Also, kudos on answering the Gothic and Impressionist questions... You F-ing genious.

No question whatsover.

Disney's "Black Cauldron".

Lloyd Alexander is one of my favourite authors, and although Disney has committed abominations before, this one was bad enough to get his deep-frozen head out of cryogenic suspension and deep-fry it instead.

As an aside, the best film adaptation I've ever seen was "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". Stunning. BTW, if you ever get a chance to see the stage version by a company you trust, GO.

jonesthecurl wrote:Disney's "Black Cauldron".

Lloyd Alexander is one of my favourite authors, and although Disney has committed abominations before, this one was bad enough to get his deep-frozen head out of cryogenic suspension and deep-fry it instead.

F-ing Disney. They must have killed that book.

jonesthecurl wrote:As an aside, the best film adaptation I've ever seen was "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". Stunning.

I've seen the film, and though it was awesome, it didn't make me want to read the book.

jonesthecurl wrote:BTW, if you ever get a chance to see the stage version by a company you trust, GO.

Here's the deal. I live in the boonies. The closest stage we have from my home is "the Timberlake Playhouse." It's about 50 minutes from my home. I got free tickets to "SHAKESPEAR" and wen't. It was awful.... The actors tried hard, but it seems someone who volunteers there re-wrote Titus into a modern hillbilly yarn. I have never gone back....

Two part question.
A) Your thoughts on legal-assisted-suicides?
B) How do I "bring out the funk?" I don't get it bro.

Live theatre is one of my favourite things. Both to watch and to perform (tho' I haven't managed to do any in the US yet)

In fact, I met the Mrs because we were both in the same theatre group.

Anyhoo:
Suicide: I don't see how the powers-that-be should have the right to to refuse death if someone genuinely wants it.

Having said that, you have to tread very carefully. Not just because you could fake a consent, not just because people might pressurise old folks into checking out early, not just because sometimes it can be the only financially-viable option.

You have to be sure that the consent is current. I was reading in (I think) the New Scientist a coupla years back that people who blithely say "Oh, if x ever happens to me, just put me out of my misery", people who would be happy to pre-sign a consent to this effect, change their mind more than half the time when x actually does happen.

Kinda like
"How old are you?"
"87"
"I don't think I'd like to live to be 87"
"You will when you're 86".

On the question of getting your funk out, you have to get it in first.
If you are currently totally devoid of funk, google for a funk supplier in your area.
Purchase sufficient funk, apply topically, and then display.

...I remember a number of guys at school saying it didn't matter how risky smoking and drugs were, or how much they affected your health, 'cos they didn't want to live past thirty anyhow.

I suspect most of them did, and regretted any permanent damage which that philosphy did them...

Time travel

Is the "space-time continueum" really that fragile? Is time travel possible in any place other than space? Would the atoms within your body vibrate apart? ARE THERE TIME TRAVELERS AMONG US NOW????

Supplimental

Boobies

God's gift, or cruel joke?

If time travel is even remotely possible, if it ever can be utilised, then there are likely time travellers amongst us now: It doesn't matter how long it takes to invent it, the temporal displacement will cancel the wait.

Unless, of course travelling in time was only possible to a discontinous locale - i.e another universe not normally reacting very much with this one. If so, then (a) there may be time travellers from a discontinuous future with us now. They might not be normal humans even, but, say, lizardmen. (b) that might explain the dark matter/dark energy question - all the matter and energy which we theorise about but cannot directly detect is in the discontinuous reality, affecting our uiverse only enough to make us realise we can't see everything. This of course might mean that the lizardmen control 90% of the matter and energy in the multiverse, which might mean it was time for them to move in on us to get the last 10%. I don't know if anyone's considered the question of lizardmen before...

On the subject of boobies, a moment's reflection has now converted me to creationism: women have two boobies. I have two hands. Does that sound like evolution or deliberate design? Especially as we are told that God is a man, and therefore likes boobies too.

jonesthecurl wrote:If time travel is even remotely possible, if it ever can be utilised, then there are likely time travellers amongst us now:

No there are not.

And even if they were, we'd be forced to keep it secret and be moderated by an agency that can go back in time to keep us from spilling those secrets.

What do you mean "WE"?

AROOGA! AROOGA! temporal agent detected in forum AROOGA! AROOGA! *

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*(that's the sound of the red alert)

Ooooow shiiiiiiit!

See you two months ago.

Also:


Your thoughts?

Snorri1234 wrote:Ooooow shiiiiiiit!

See you two months ago.

Also:


Your thoughts?

Since this is the jonesthecurl thread for sharing his views, I will not share my view that I think that poster would be more awesome if you put Ralph Nader's face in it, with the Vader helmet on top.

Is more to my liking though.

Mr. Thecurl,

Please share your views,

Time Travel: What Method do you Like Best as Plot Device? -- Terminator Paradox, Back to the Future/ The Time Machine style, Donnie Darko Mythology, The Novikov self-consistency principle, Dr. Who method, or Bill & Ted's Excellent Documentary on Real Time Travel that Really Happened.

I'll get back to you on the Star Wars election once I've gathered my thought.
ON the Time Travel question, there seem to be several plot approaches, each of which have their classic versions.

First, the time you travel to can be far removed from your present, meaning that it is unclear how your actions affect things. Two of the earliest time travel stories go there; Twain's Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's COurt, and Wells' The Time Machine.

Secondly, time can be very inelastic, so that it can be changed but it is very difficult to do so - Fritz Leiber's Timewar stories of the Spiders and Snakes are the greatest example of this - the novel The Big Time, and a lot of short stories too. A slightly different approach is taken in Poul Anderson's Time Patrol stories, also highly recommended (and which inspred the RPG sourcebook Timestorm for the TimeMaster game).

Third, time may be very mutable indeed, as in Ray Bradbury's classic short story (the name of which escapes me for the moment, sorry) where the guy steps on a butterfly on a hunting expedition to prehistoric times. Incidentally, this story always makes me think about Chaos Theory, although it predates it.

Then you can have the situation where time is inelastic, but time travel is necessary to the very fabric of the universe. The Man's By His Bootstraps is the absolute best at this - if you haven't read it yet, stop reading this now and go and find it immediately. It is the perfect time travel plot.

Then there is the time-beside-time approach - first deliberately broached by Asimov in The End of Eternity, but unconsciously echoed in Dr Who. (At some level, the Doctor's personal timelilne is not confused by jumping back and forth - I remember when the Tom Baker version was hijacked to yet another troublespot by the Gallifreans, and as he got out of the Tardis said "Haven't I done enough for you yet?" - or consider that he is now supposed to be the Last Time Lord - that makes no snese when they are all free to pop back and forth in time, unless there is a second type of time, of a higher order.

Finally you have the type of time travel where by temporally dislocating, you pull yourself out of your own universe. Change the past, and although you start off another universe, you don't change your own.Bob Shaw did a good one of these, but again the name momentarily escapes me. No, wait, I think it was the Two-Timers

Incidentally, and reinforcing an earlier point of mine, you will note that almost all your references were to film/TV, almost all mine to books.

jonesthecurl wrote:Incidentally, and reinforcing an earlier point of mine, you will note that almost all your references were to film/TV, almost all mine to books.

Apparently you have given this a lot of thought. Must be a topic in which you are quite interested, which would fit with you being Cobra Commander.

I have not read those books because I am not an evil genius with ambitions of world domination.

You forgot about the second Ender book by Orson Scott Card. Speaker for the Dead, or Of the Dead. It was pretty awful. But they basically traveled through time, in the relative sense. So there.