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Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:16 pm
by rocky mountain
steven, did you get my e-mail?

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:34 am
by bryguy
StevenJ wrote:
bryguy wrote:ive gotten out on the ice before :D and no i wasnt a player

it's all about JR man... he's da diggity ass bomb.


uh.... no comprendo?

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:04 pm
by StevenJ
you dono JR? you must not be a hockey fan

Roenick, exhibit one

aww i can't find a youtube video of him fighting with the fans.
or throwing the stick

God what a character.

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:34 am
by bryguy
StevenJ wrote:you dono JR? you must not be a hockey fan

Roenick, exhibit one

aww i can't find a youtube video of him fighting with the fans.
or throwing the stick

God what a character.


eh ive only been to 1 hockey game, and thats when i got to go on the ice, course, it wasnt in the middle of the game

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:49 pm
by rocky mountain
can we get back on topic? hows the map coming stevenJ? did you get my e-mail?

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:40 pm
by StevenJ
i replied too... it's a rough draft so it looks like crap.

making shapes isn't as easy as i thought.

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:45 pm
by seamusk
This is coming along fairly well I think.

For clarification, it says that you can attack from lower seat sections onto ice. Anywhere on ice? Only where red has that arrow? If you can attack from all lower seat sections do you need that arrow? Or is it meant to be a bombard? It would be interesting if you could only attack the ice from one section but bombard from other but not sure that would work gameplay wise.

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:57 pm
by rocky mountain
the arrows are referring to the one way attacks to and from the zambonis. i thought that was clearer than it obviously was...
and steven, i can't really see the map... plus the program isn't cooperating. could you try sending me it again?
thx

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:36 pm
by seamusk
yep, i definitely missed that. wow. that makes some sense but I think its confusing symbolically. Is there a clearer way to distinguish the zambonis?

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:40 pm
by rocky mountain
just so you know, stevenJ is redoing the graphics, so what is displayed is not it really... its what i did a while ago, and i haven't updated it since i haven't really gotten anything from steven yet. as soon as i so, i will post it. so don't really pay attention to the map up there right now...

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:26 am
by oaktown
when you guys redo the graphics I would highly recommend that you find a way to make attack routes clear from the map... the less one has to read the legend to play a map the better.

By the time you guys get this map finished the Stanley Cup playoffs may finally be over... zzzzzz...

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:01 am
by StevenJ
I'm sorry :( I have a life

I also live in Detroit and frequent hockey games!!! GO WINGS!!!

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:02 am
by oaktown
StevenJ wrote:I'm sorry :( I have a life


My apologies for being unclear Steven. I wasn't poking fun at your map, but at the NHL whose playoffs - like those of the NBA - seem to roll on for months! #-o

And I can get behind the Red Wings with ya. I like seeing the old teams in the Finals much more than a team like the Phoenix Coyotes or the Tampa Bay Lightning... really, how big a hockey town is Tampa Bay?

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:23 am
by StevenJ
wheeeee! anyway i put a piece of crap together for a draft and sent it to the guy, but he didn't get it.

i might put more effort into the draft after i fill my belly today.

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:08 pm
by seamusk
well damn. I'm from pittsburgh. GO PENS!!! :mrgreen:

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:41 pm
by rocky mountain
StevenJ wrote:a draft and sent it to the guy, but he didn't get it.

i did get it, but it just wasn't very clear, and when i tried to open it, the program froze. i just couldn't see it. i'll try it again though.

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:09 pm
by StevenJ
its a gif

so its all you nto me

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:56 pm
by Snorri1234
It could do with some more mudkips, but otherwise it looks pretty neat to me.

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:27 pm
by rocky mountain
hey i got it to work! here is StevnJ's version of it (remember, its just a draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[bigimg]http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5337/19462518lq5.gif[/bigimg]

i have a question... why is the skyboxes worth 6? do they start neutral?
whats the R&R?

ok, so now lets see what others think! :D

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:50 pm
by StevenJ
start them off neutral is a great idea

but skyboxes are worth 6 because they can get attacked from more ways then others

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:24 am
by bryguy
I really like the look of the rink now, but not the look of the stands. Also, maybe have NO army circles? this map just screams to me
I DONT NEED ARMY CIRCLES!!!
, i myself thing it would look better (at least in the rink) if there were no army circles, or if the army circles in the rink were centered more

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:11 pm
by StevenJ
what's an army circle?

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:27 am
by bryguy
StevenJ wrote:what's an army circle?


the circles where armies are placed. In this map, they are blackish/seethroughy

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:56 am
by seamusk
I think the rink will need army circles, no? I don't think those look bad. In fact it all looks much clearer.

I agree that the rink in general look sgreat but the stands look a little off to me. I generally like their construction. I wonder if there is a way to mimic people sitting in them. A bunch of gray heads with 25% opacity maybe? So you have a layer of just gray heads just above each colored continent but with the low opacity so it doesn't affect color appearance too much.

Re: hockey map! *new update with army numbers

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:07 am
by seamusk
Additional thoughts.

The outline for the outside of the upper stands in particular looks too rough. can you use an oval tool or zoom in and fix it on a pixel level that won't show?

The rink is a dangerous place to be with limited bonuses. How about making each spot on the rank some kind of autodeploy? There is limited value to being on the rink otherwise with only the small goal bonuses.

Can lower seats attack anywhere on the rink? or is there an attack method? What about making each offensive zone plus the center ice zone as separate territories. So you have a way to fort to protect an offensive zone. Another option would be to make an entire offensive zone a continent (goal + faceoffs + offensive zone itself). Then players could fort to the offensive zone to protect from the stands. Otherwise you've got to somehow protect a goalspot that can get hit from 16 territories!

I didn't mean to submit. more comments...

by home area do you mean just the home bench area? no I think you mean home offensive zone? it is unclear. At first I assumed you meant benches.

given how many places can attack zombonis I would increase that bonus. It may be only two, but it ain't no aussie.

I think this map is coming along. I really think we're overdue with some good sports maps. They are high in demand too.